European Tour Sales = Desaster

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    Buddy called the other day “I really want to see Pearl Jam at the garden and I want to spend $900US per ticket. Where’s that gonna get me ( he hates upper level seats)

    told him two choices.

    first, if MSG desired that $900 will get you a nice hotel room, dinner, and probably a few rounds or so of drinks.

    second, if  you are looking to save money, hop on a plane to Europe.
  • Gravey1975
    Gravey1975 Posts: 342
    London ticket prices are plummeting.
  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,481
    Gravey1975 said:
    London ticket prices are plummeting.
    I imagine they will gift a bunch of the nosebleed seats for free to the “blue light” sector like they did with Blur London Night 2 last year. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,769
    Anyone know if you purchase a fan to fan ticket for Barcelona if you can subsequently sell it again on fan to fan? 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited June 2024
    Unfortunately not. But why would you want to buy a Ticketmaster resale ticket when you can get original standard tickets for less money? The ones that you can possibly sell again.
    Post edited by Zen23 on
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,769
    Zen23 said:
    Unfortunately not. But why would you want to buy a Ticketmaster resale ticket when you can get original standard tickets for less money? The ones that you can possibly sell again.
    Sometimes the resale seats are in a better location.  

    Thanks for the info.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    You're right about that. You're welcome. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Lerxst1992 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mookeywrench said:
    marumaruko said:
    mookeywrench said:
    Zen23 said:
    I find it completely incomprehensible that neither Berlin nor London have ever thought of lowering their prices. And Barcelona for that matter....That's sad. Do you think anything will happen?
    They will tour Europe less.
    The Japan treatment which led to being an almost non existent band on the Japanese market. Unless they are getting ready for staying in North America only, it makes not sense to tour less, but to tour smarter. Bit smaller venues, to add in more festivals again.
    Berlin for example has the Wuhlheide, which looks like Waldbühne, just a better location and a tad smaller. 
    It makes perfect sense, if you're going to take the cost and time to tour abroad, not just the band but the entire crew, and the result is subpar ticket sales. You just do it less.

    Why put the effort of playing a smaller venue in Berlin, when you can play a larger venue in the states at a fraction of the travel and transport costs?


    Apparently in Seattle schools, they teach that the only US cities east of the Mississippi are Boston, Philly, NY and Balt.

    The population density in and around those places, and according to band comments in the past, their popularity there is second to none.

    Yet those are the only east US cities they’ve apparently heard of. Moral of story, they will leave millions on the table to do what they want, and they like Euro. And Cali. 
    You forgot Chicago, 

    evidently I did not pay attention in geography class. Perhaps I should have went with the Ohio River. 
    Saint Paul is also east of the Mississippi in the conventional sense, although it's a bit confusing when you look at a map because it looks to be west of the river because of the way the river bends in that particular area. This leads to the quirk that West Saint Paul is due south of Saint Paul.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,769
    BF25394 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mookeywrench said:
    marumaruko said:
    mookeywrench said:
    Zen23 said:
    I find it completely incomprehensible that neither Berlin nor London have ever thought of lowering their prices. And Barcelona for that matter....That's sad. Do you think anything will happen?
    They will tour Europe less.
    The Japan treatment which led to being an almost non existent band on the Japanese market. Unless they are getting ready for staying in North America only, it makes not sense to tour less, but to tour smarter. Bit smaller venues, to add in more festivals again.
    Berlin for example has the Wuhlheide, which looks like Waldbühne, just a better location and a tad smaller. 
    It makes perfect sense, if you're going to take the cost and time to tour abroad, not just the band but the entire crew, and the result is subpar ticket sales. You just do it less.

    Why put the effort of playing a smaller venue in Berlin, when you can play a larger venue in the states at a fraction of the travel and transport costs?


    Apparently in Seattle schools, they teach that the only US cities east of the Mississippi are Boston, Philly, NY and Balt.

    The population density in and around those places, and according to band comments in the past, their popularity there is second to none.

    Yet those are the only east US cities they’ve apparently heard of. Moral of story, they will leave millions on the table to do what they want, and they like Euro. And Cali. 
    You forgot Chicago, 

    evidently I did not pay attention in geography class. Perhaps I should have went with the Ohio River. 
    Saint Paul is also east of the Mississippi in the conventional sense, although it's a bit confusing when you look at a map because it looks to be west of the river because of the way the river bends in that particular area. This leads to the quirk that West Saint Paul is due south of Saint Paul.
    Kind of like the part of Kentucky (or maybe Indiana, or both) where heading due south on the Interstate you cross from Eastern to Central time.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • lemon2
    lemon2 Posts: 7
    Hi!
    First time going to a show in Europe. Hitting Berlin and Barcelona. How is the floor in Palau Sant Jordi? Recommended for PJ? I generally try and do GA for US shows but was curious how crowded its gets in Palau.

    Brian
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,288
    According to ticketmaster uk there are 866 tickets left.

    If u put the filter to 1 ticket only it show how many there are left.

    Also the smallest price is 80 pounds
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited June 2024
    You're right. I've never noticed that number up there. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Unfortunately, only Ticketmaster knows how this number comes about. It seems to be made up. By random generator. There are over 1,000 tickets available in this limited area of the South Stand alone. Not including the tickets that Ticketmaster has deliberately grayed out and taken off sale for the time being. If you were to add them in, you would get close to 1,500 tickets for this area alone.



    Perhaps someone who is familiar with the Ticketmaster system can help. I have tried to get behind it again. But I have to give up. For example, if you select PJ Premium as the ticket type, Ticketmaster tells you "18 results". But in reality there are over 100 tickets of this type. Inscrutable.
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  • STATEOFLOVE59
    STATEOFLOVE59 Posts: 20
    marumaruko said:
    Hmm, now is the time to hop on a last minute flight for cheap if available. 

    But I think a main problem is that a lot of Spaniards might be in Germany during that time. Their team is very good and is expected to reach the semi final so that's why I think both shows will not be close to being sold out.  

    Barcelona dos not support Spain.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    Gravey1975 said:
    London ticket prices are plummeting.
    Saw they are advertising them at £49 now........problem is they still don't seem to be moving too well. 

    It kinda bolsters that thinking that whilst people were a little pissed about the prices, it was the fact that the date clashes with so much other stuff going on that is the main underlying problem and the timing of the tour announcement. 

    At any other time this show would have sold out IMO. 

    I know I cant wait.....
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    Does anyone know if its correct that closer to the show it will be possible to transfer tickets via the ticketmaster app? its currently greyed out as an option meaning the only way is to buy through TM and pay their fees on a ticket that has already incurred fees.

    I am hunting for one front standing ticket for my son but really dont want to be paying £200 which includes £68 worth of ticketmaster costs. 
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    lemon2 said:
    Hi!
    First time going to a show in Europe. Hitting Berlin and Barcelona. How is the floor in Palau Sant Jordi? Recommended for PJ? I generally try and do GA for US shows but was curious how crowded its gets in Palau.

    Brian
    We went last time they played Barcelona.  It's a great city!

    The GA floor is massive in comparison to US GA.  It's the whole floor (no floor seats) as opposed to a small section in front of the stage.  We hung about half way back next to the sound desk and had plenty of space around us, but the closer in you get to the stage the tighter and sweatier it will be.  So it will depend on the type of experience you want.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    stones said:
    lemon2 said:
    Hi!
    First time going to a show in Europe. Hitting Berlin and Barcelona. How is the floor in Palau Sant Jordi? Recommended for PJ? I generally try and do GA for US shows but was curious how crowded its gets in Palau.

    Brian
    We went last time they played Barcelona.  It's a great city!

    The GA floor is massive in comparison to US GA.  It's the whole floor (no floor seats) as opposed to a small section in front of the stage.  We hung about half way back next to the sound desk and had plenty of space around us, but the closer in you get to the stage the tighter and sweatier it will be.  So it will depend on the type of experience you want.
    I was in the closer sweatier bit. Massive floor.


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  • one_stone
    one_stone Posts: 298
    pdalowsky said:
    Gravey1975 said:
    London ticket prices are plummeting.
    Saw they are advertising them at £49 now........problem is they still don't seem to be moving too well. 

    It kinda bolsters that thinking that whilst people were a little pissed about the prices, it was the fact that the date clashes with so much other stuff going on that is the main underlying problem and the timing of the tour announcement. 

    At any other time this show would have sold out IMO. 

    I know I cant wait.....
    Where do you see those reduced ticket prices? The cheapest tickets I can see are still 91GBP...

    As my wife and I have spontaneously decided to go to London and see Kings Of Leon in Hyde Park on Sunday before flying to Berlin, I am in the convenient position to make use of the bad sales and add PJ on Saturday too for a reduced price. I am now waiting for the best moment to grab some cheap seats which still have a good view... But I have a feeling this moment will be even closer to the show / in the last week before the show...
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,214
    one_stone said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Gravey1975 said:
    London ticket prices are plummeting.
    Saw they are advertising them at £49 now........problem is they still don't seem to be moving too well. 

    It kinda bolsters that thinking that whilst people were a little pissed about the prices, it was the fact that the date clashes with so much other stuff going on that is the main underlying problem and the timing of the tour announcement. 

    At any other time this show would have sold out IMO. 

    I know I cant wait.....
    Where do you see those reduced ticket prices? The cheapest tickets I can see are still 91GBP...

    As my wife and I have spontaneously decided to go to London and see Kings Of Leon in Hyde Park on Sunday before flying to Berlin, I am in the convenient position to make use of the bad sales and add PJ on Saturday too for a reduced price. I am now waiting for the best moment to grab some cheap seats which still have a good view... But I have a feeling this moment will be even closer to the show / in the last week before the show...
    They have been thrown onto twickets I was told
  • sdh8252
    sdh8252 Birmingham, UK Posts: 16
    Tickets: Pearl Jam - Dark Matter World Tour 2024, London | Sat, 29 Jun 2024, 19:00 | Ticketmaster UK   There are £63 tickets available on this link, some decent seats (not too far back) in the lower tier corner of the south stand for that price.  Hopefully the link works ok for you.

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