Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.
Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
You would have if you'd watched the Canucks/Kings game. Apparently both teams now think they're all soccer players.
Yeah that game was crazy...I don't remember seeing a game when the puck always seemed to bounce just the wrong for Vancouver...lots of shots just didn't seem like they were getting any bounces...but that's how it goes.
Vancouver needs to decide whether they keep Shneider or Luongo. Lou's contract probably makes him impossible to trade so the other guys out...I think they need to add some more grit in the off season. Nash will be available in the off season...Columbus is looking for a goalie...
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Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.
Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
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Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.
Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
I don't know if the owners and players will agree about the cap space issues to be honest but I do think we need a group that is separate and independent. I do think Shanny did start well with his suspension but it seems that he didn't live up to that.
Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.
Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
I don't agree that the price cap or picks should be involved (that would NEVER be done by the NHL, so it's really moot) ... But much bigger penalties charged to the team rather than the player seems like a good idea.
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He was merely suggesting to Legwand that perhaps next time he should act more like a gentleman while sitting outside the arena of play.
Hey, at least it wasn't a head shot .... and it's not like the PP is working for the Wings anyway. They seem to be better off in 4 on 4 when the Preds can't knock the puck out of the zone. :geek:
Why is it such a tough decision for the NHL to ban head shots? And maybe it's time to hold the teams accountable as well. Maybe monetary penalties/lowering their cap limit for a season or two and the removal of draft picks after each season based on players suspensions on their team.
No doubt this season/playoff the headshots have been bad.
How much of lack of discipline is Shanny/Bettmans fault or the directions that they are receiving at the board of governors meetings?
I also really don't see the discipline aspect changing any time soon. If they didn't crack down after Crosby took some serious headshots then it's unlikely they're going to. It's obvious to me that it's in all teams best interest to want your most marketable players healthy and playing.
I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
He was merely suggesting to Legwand that perhaps next time he should act more like a gentleman while sitting outside the arena of play.
Hey, at least it wasn't a head shot .... and it's not like the PP is working for the Wings anyway. They seem to be better off in 4 on 4 when the Preds can't knock the puck out of the zone. :geek:
I'm not saying what Legwand did was right...just as what Weber did was wrong...merely finding it amusing that spearing seems to be a non issue...I remember a time when you speared someone that could warrant a suspension.
As for the Wings PP...I still think they like their odds with the man advantage.
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Why is it such a tough decision for the NHL to ban head shots? And maybe it's time to hold the teams accountable as well. Maybe monetary penalties/lowering their cap limit for a season or two and the removal of draft picks after each season based on players suspensions on their team.
No doubt this season/playoff the headshots have been bad.
How much of lack of discipline is Shanny/Bettmans fault or the directions that they are receiving at the board of governors meetings?
I also really don't see the discipline aspect changing any time soon. If they didn't crack down after Crosby took some serious headshots then it's unlikely they're going to. It's obvious to me that it's in all teams best interest to want your most marketable players healthy and playing.
like i said ... it's become bush league ...
you are so right...it's almost like the NHL has seen how popular MMA has become and is saying "lets bring a little MMA to our sport".
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I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:
what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.
I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
the problem with making guys answer for it is teams no longer carry the Probert, Domi, Kocur type.
But your right if your going to run guys you need to answer for it...but the discipline needs to come from the league and that's not happening.
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NEW YORK -- Ottawa Senators forward Zenon Konopka has been fined $2,500, the maximum allowed under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and his club fined $10,000 for Konopka's conduct prior to Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Quarter-Final at New York on Saturday. April 14, the National Hockey League announced today.
Konopka was fined for his verbal abuse directed at a New York Rangers player conducting a live television interview nearby during pre-game warm-ups.
The Konopka fine money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund, while the club fine goes to the NHL Foundation.
at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
I don't know if the owners and players will agree about the cap space issues to be honest but I do think we need a group that is separate and independent. I do think Shanny did start well with his suspension but it seems that he didn't live up to that.
Your right they probably won't agree...but we do need an independent panel...but I doubt that is coming any time soon.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
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I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
First off the Schenn hit was bad but what Asham did was much worse.
secondly, I don't see how you can say that the Flyers have taken liberties on Crosby. have they hit him? YES. but have they tried to hurt him as much as the Pens have tried to hurt the Flyer players? NO
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:
what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.
Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
Honestly Schenn's hit was clean...if Asham had challenegd him insteand of cross-checking him in the throat maybe he would have fought
Crosby has barely been hit in this series to be honest and nothing dirty. He's been instigating everything after the whistle
Now what Neal did and then doesnt answer the bell when Simmonds is challenging him face to face is gutless..then he hides on a change real quick when the fights start and goes to the bench
What a POS
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it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:
what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.[/quote]
Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.[/quote]
are you kidding me? NBC is the crysby channel. have you ever heard Pierre Macquire talk about the Kid? did you see crosby punch Hartnell in the back of head? Did you see the puck ass move of basically kicking the flyers player glove when he was trying to pick it up?
Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.
I dont need an announcer to tell me if a hit is clean..it was clean
No penalty was being called until after Asham cross-checked him (Schenn) in the throat
Crosby is starting all this crap and waiting for the linesman to jump in and then starts throwing punches
The dude is a punk and another p word I wont use with ladies posting in this thread
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Did you see the puck ass move of basically kicking the flyers player glove when he was trying to pick it up?
basically kicking? dude flipped it away with his stick, which is what really set off the first melee. the whacking of the goalie glove i can look past, because that happens all the time, but to flip a glove away when the guy was right there bending over to pick it up? that's a punk ass move.
Yeah actually I did...it started off as old time hockey...then went down hill from there...
what are they pissed because he pushed some guys glove...so now he's a punk.
That crap has been going on since the beginning...and certainly as long as I've been watching the game.
As far as I'm concerned it was the American owners who wanted fighting out of the game and the removal of the instigator rule...when that that stuff was eliminated the head shots and bush league stuff showed up in the game.
I know the vast majority of Canadian hockey fans have no problem with fighting in the game. I much prefer that the players police the game themselves...and I'm pretty sure the skill players will look awesome in the post season as well.
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I don't know if anyone has been watching the Devs/Panthers Series, but two whole games have been played without a fight.
Really.
Yeah, no one is watching that series, lol. Even sports broadcasters seem to have all but forgotten about it.
I watched the Devils/Panthers yesterday. Brings back lots of trauma from 90s playoff series. :(
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Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.
Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Didnt see that one
Its been a nasty first round
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at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
Yeah that game was crazy...I don't remember seeing a game when the puck always seemed to bounce just the wrong for Vancouver...lots of shots just didn't seem like they were getting any bounces...but that's how it goes.
Vancouver needs to decide whether they keep Shneider or Luongo. Lou's contract probably makes him impossible to trade so the other guys out...I think they need to add some more grit in the off season. Nash will be available in the off season...Columbus is looking for a goalie...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Really.
Johan Franzen spears David Legwand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhwXw5pz ... ure=relmfu
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I don't know if the owners and players will agree about the cap space issues to be honest but I do think we need a group that is separate and independent. I do think Shanny did start well with his suspension but it seems that he didn't live up to that.
Hey, at least it wasn't a head shot .... and it's not like the PP is working for the Wings anyway. They seem to be better off in 4 on 4 when the Preds can't knock the puck out of the zone. :geek:
like i said ... it's become bush league ...
asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
I'm not saying what Legwand did was right...just as what Weber did was wrong...merely finding it amusing that spearing seems to be a non issue...I remember a time when you speared someone that could warrant a suspension.
As for the Wings PP...I still think they like their odds with the man advantage.
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you are so right...it's almost like the NHL has seen how popular MMA has become and is saying "lets bring a little MMA to our sport".
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it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:
what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.
the problem with making guys answer for it is teams no longer carry the Probert, Domi, Kocur type.
But your right if your going to run guys you need to answer for it...but the discipline needs to come from the league and that's not happening.
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Your right they probably won't agree...but we do need an independent panel...but I doubt that is coming any time soon.
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First off the Schenn hit was bad but what Asham did was much worse.
secondly, I don't see how you can say that the Flyers have taken liberties on Crosby. have they hit him? YES. but have they tried to hurt him as much as the Pens have tried to hurt the Flyer players? NO
Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
did you even watch yesterday's game?
Honestly Schenn's hit was clean...if Asham had challenegd him insteand of cross-checking him in the throat maybe he would have fought
Crosby has barely been hit in this series to be honest and nothing dirty. He's been instigating everything after the whistle
Now what Neal did and then doesnt answer the bell when Simmonds is challenging him face to face is gutless..then he hides on a change real quick when the fights start and goes to the bench
What a POS
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what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.[/quote]
Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.[/quote]
are you kidding me? NBC is the crysby channel. have you ever heard Pierre Macquire talk about the Kid? did you see crosby punch Hartnell in the back of head? Did you see the puck ass move of basically kicking the flyers player glove when he was trying to pick it up?
I dont need an announcer to tell me if a hit is clean..it was clean
No penalty was being called until after Asham cross-checked him (Schenn) in the throat
Crosby is starting all this crap and waiting for the linesman to jump in and then starts throwing punches
The dude is a punk and another p word I wont use with ladies posting in this thread
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basically kicking? dude flipped it away with his stick, which is what really set off the first melee. the whacking of the goalie glove i can look past, because that happens all the time, but to flip a glove away when the guy was right there bending over to pick it up? that's a punk ass move.
Yeah actually I did...it started off as old time hockey...then went down hill from there...
what are they pissed because he pushed some guys glove...so now he's a punk.
That crap has been going on since the beginning...and certainly as long as I've been watching the game.
As far as I'm concerned it was the American owners who wanted fighting out of the game and the removal of the instigator rule...when that that stuff was eliminated the head shots and bush league stuff showed up in the game.
I know the vast majority of Canadian hockey fans have no problem with fighting in the game. I much prefer that the players police the game themselves...and I'm pretty sure the skill players will look awesome in the post season as well.
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I watched the Devils/Panthers yesterday. Brings back lots of trauma from 90s playoff series. :(
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