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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,720
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
    You would have if you'd watched the Canucks/Kings game. Apparently both teams now think they're all soccer players.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=172738

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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    Didnt see that one

    Its been a nasty first round
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.
    You would have if you'd watched the Canucks/Kings game. Apparently both teams now think they're all soccer players.

    Yeah that game was crazy...I don't remember seeing a game when the puck always seemed to bounce just the wrong for Vancouver...lots of shots just didn't seem like they were getting any bounces...but that's how it goes.

    Vancouver needs to decide whether they keep Shneider or Luongo. Lou's contract probably makes him impossible to trade so the other guys out...I think they need to add some more grit in the off season. Nash will be available in the off season...Columbus is looking for a goalie...
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.

    ...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    I don't know if anyone has been watching the Devs/Panthers Series, but two whole games have been played without a fight.

    Really.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    Didnt see that one

    Its been a nasty first round

    Johan Franzen spears David Legwand

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhwXw5pz ... ure=relmfu
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,720
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I don't know if anyone has been watching the Devs/Panthers Series, but two whole games have been played without a fight.

    Really.
    Yeah, no one is watching that series, lol. Even sports broadcasters seem to have all but forgotten about it. :lol:
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    lukin2006 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.

    ...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.

    I don't know if the owners and players will agree about the cap space issues to be honest but I do think we need a group that is separate and independent. I do think Shanny did start well with his suspension but it seems that he didn't live up to that.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,720
    lukin2006 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Brendan Shanahan kept busy by NHL mayhem

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/04/ ... hl-mayhem/

    Funny that no one seems to be talking much about Franzens spear of Legwand.

    Legwand was already being penalized...so Franzens spear cost Detroit a 2 minute powerplay.

    at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.

    ...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.
    I don't agree that the price cap or picks should be involved (that would NEVER be done by the NHL, so it's really moot) ... But much bigger penalties charged to the team rather than the player seems like a good idea.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,766
    lukin2006 wrote:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhwXw5pz ... ure=relmfu
    He was merely suggesting to Legwand that perhaps next time he should act more like a gentleman while sitting outside the arena of play. :)

    Hey, at least it wasn't a head shot .... and it's not like the PP is working for the Wings anyway. They seem to be better off in 4 on 4 when the Preds can't knock the puck out of the zone. :geek:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Why is it such a tough decision for the NHL to ban head shots? And maybe it's time to hold the teams accountable as well. Maybe monetary penalties/lowering their cap limit for a season or two and the removal of draft picks after each season based on players suspensions on their team.

    No doubt this season/playoff the headshots have been bad.

    How much of lack of discipline is Shanny/Bettmans fault or the directions that they are receiving at the board of governors meetings?

    I also really don't see the discipline aspect changing any time soon. If they didn't crack down after Crosby took some serious headshots then it's unlikely they're going to. It's obvious to me that it's in all teams best interest to want your most marketable players healthy and playing.


    like i said ... it's become bush league ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.

    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Jason P wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhwXw5pz ... ure=relmfu
    He was merely suggesting to Legwand that perhaps next time he should act more like a gentleman while sitting outside the arena of play. :)

    Hey, at least it wasn't a head shot .... and it's not like the PP is working for the Wings anyway. They seem to be better off in 4 on 4 when the Preds can't knock the puck out of the zone. :geek:

    I'm not saying what Legwand did was right...just as what Weber did was wrong...merely finding it amusing that spearing seems to be a non issue...I remember a time when you speared someone that could warrant a suspension.

    As for the Wings PP...I still think they like their odds with the man advantage.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Why is it such a tough decision for the NHL to ban head shots? And maybe it's time to hold the teams accountable as well. Maybe monetary penalties/lowering their cap limit for a season or two and the removal of draft picks after each season based on players suspensions on their team.

    No doubt this season/playoff the headshots have been bad.

    How much of lack of discipline is Shanny/Bettmans fault or the directions that they are receiving at the board of governors meetings?

    I also really don't see the discipline aspect changing any time soon. If they didn't crack down after Crosby took some serious headshots then it's unlikely they're going to. It's obvious to me that it's in all teams best interest to want your most marketable players healthy and playing.


    like i said ... it's become bush league ...

    you are so right...it's almost like the NHL has seen how popular MMA has become and is saying "lets bring a little MMA to our sport".
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  • 81
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    polaris_x wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.

    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...


    it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:

    what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.

    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...

    the problem with making guys answer for it is teams no longer carry the Probert, Domi, Kocur type.

    But your right if your going to run guys you need to answer for it...but the discipline needs to come from the league and that's not happening.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • 81
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    NEW YORK -- Ottawa Senators forward Zenon Konopka has been fined $2,500, the maximum allowed under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and his club fined $10,000 for Konopka's conduct prior to Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Quarter-Final at New York on Saturday. April 14, the National Hockey League announced today.

    Konopka was fined for his verbal abuse directed at a New York Rangers player conducting a live television interview nearby during pre-game warm-ups.

    The Konopka fine money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund, while the club fine goes to the NHL Foundation.

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