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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    fife wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    fife wrote:

    at what point do we realize that 1 person should not be doing this job. I say get a panel of 3 people to make up the group and have them separate from the NHL.

    ...so your saying completely separate and independent...I like it. I still think teams need to be held accountable and should be penalized picks and salary cap space...the same panel can decide that...and this panel could be jointly paid by players and NHL to insure fairness...players penalties should carry for at least 2 years...as of now I think every player starts off with a clean slate at the beginning of the year.

    I don't know if the owners and players will agree about the cap space issues to be honest but I do think we need a group that is separate and independent. I do think Shanny did start well with his suspension but it seems that he didn't live up to that.

    Your right they probably won't agree...but we do need an independent panel...but I doubt that is coming any time soon.
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.

    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...

    First off the Schenn hit was bad but what Asham did was much worse.

    secondly, I don't see how you can say that the Flyers have taken liberties on Crosby. have they hit him? YES. but have they tried to hurt him as much as the Pens have tried to hurt the Flyer players? NO
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    81 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...


    it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:

    what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.

    Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.
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  • 81
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    lukin2006 wrote:
    How is Crosby acting like a punk?


    did you even watch yesterday's game?
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    polaris_x wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I didn't see much dirty play on Sunday ... of course, I just watched the Wings / Preds.

    Go to Youtube and type in Aaron Asham Schenn

    asham deserves whatever punishment he gets ... but if you are gonna run a guy like schenn did - you should have the guts to answer for it ... especially in that series where the flyers have taken a lot of liberties on crosby et al ... if you're gonna play that way - you need to answer for it ...

    Honestly Schenn's hit was clean...if Asham had challenegd him insteand of cross-checking him in the throat maybe he would have fought

    Crosby has barely been hit in this series to be honest and nothing dirty. He's been instigating everything after the whistle

    Now what Neal did and then doesnt answer the bell when Simmonds is challenging him face to face is gutless..then he hides on a change real quick when the fights start and goes to the bench

    What a POS
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  • fife
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    it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:

    what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.[/quote]

    Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.[/quote]

    are you kidding me? NBC is the crysby channel. have you ever heard Pierre Macquire talk about the Kid? did you see crosby punch Hartnell in the back of head? Did you see the puck ass move of basically kicking the flyers player glove when he was trying to pick it up?
  • Phantom Pain
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    lukin2006 wrote:
    Were these NBC announcers? if so enough said! How is Crosby acting like a punk? as far as the stick work their all doing it...the pushing after the whistles that's happening after damn near every whistle...his whining, the same was said about Gretzky, and I suspect many, many more NHL players are doing it, just that every camera is focused on him when he is on the ice, every mic on him in post game interviews.

    I dont need an announcer to tell me if a hit is clean..it was clean

    No penalty was being called until after Asham cross-checked him (Schenn) in the throat

    Crosby is starting all this crap and waiting for the linesman to jump in and then starts throwing punches

    The dude is a punk and another p word I wont use with ladies posting in this thread
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  • 81
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    fife wrote:
    Did you see the puck ass move of basically kicking the flyers player glove when he was trying to pick it up?

    basically kicking? dude flipped it away with his stick, which is what really set off the first melee. the whacking of the goalie glove i can look past, because that happens all the time, but to flip a glove away when the guy was right there bending over to pick it up? that's a punk ass move.
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  • lukin2006
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    81 wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    How is Crosby acting like a punk?


    did you even watch yesterday's game?

    Yeah actually I did...it started off as old time hockey...then went down hill from there...

    what are they pissed because he pushed some guys glove...so now he's a punk.

    That crap has been going on since the beginning...and certainly as long as I've been watching the game.

    As far as I'm concerned it was the American owners who wanted fighting out of the game and the removal of the instigator rule...when that that stuff was eliminated the head shots and bush league stuff showed up in the game.

    I know the vast majority of Canadian hockey fans have no problem with fighting in the game. I much prefer that the players police the game themselves...and I'm pretty sure the skill players will look awesome in the post season as well.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I don't know if anyone has been watching the Devs/Panthers Series, but two whole games have been played without a fight.

    Really.
    Yeah, no one is watching that series, lol. Even sports broadcasters seem to have all but forgotten about it. :lol:

    I watched the Devils/Panthers yesterday. Brings back lots of trauma from 90s playoff series. :(
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  • Phantom Pain
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    lukin2006 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    How is Crosby acting like a punk?


    did you even watch yesterday's game?

    Yeah actually I did...it started off as old time hockey...then went down hill from there...

    what are they pissed because he pushed some guys glove...so now he's a punk.

    That crap has been going on since the beginning...and certainly as long as I've been watching the game.

    As far as I'm concerned it was the American owners who wanted fighting out of the game and the removal of the instigator rule...when that that stuff was eliminated the head shots and bush league stuff showed up in the game.

    I know the vast majority of Canadian hockey fans have no problem with fighting in the game. I much prefer that the players police the game themselves...and I'm pretty sure the skill players will look awesome in the post season as well.

    The glove thing is BS but i can deal with that

    The other crap is ridiculous...keeps yapping then starts throwing when a linesman gets there

    Dude has no balls whatsoever

    I know you love the guy but come on you can't defend him in this series
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  • Phantom Pain
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I don't know if anyone has been watching the Devs/Panthers Series, but two whole games have been played without a fight.

    Really.
    Yeah, no one is watching that series, lol. Even sports broadcasters seem to have all but forgotten about it. :lol:

    I watched the Devils/Panthers yesterday. Brings back lots of trauma from 90s playoff series. :(

    Can't believe Jovanoski is still playing

    That dude has been around
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    We can all sit here and call so and so a punk...bottom line probably none or most of us have never played the game at a high enough level to really know what goes on...but as far I'm concerned the hacking and whacking with sticks and the pushing after whistles is a disgrace and very bush league...the entire league is guilty of this.
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    lukin2006 wrote:
    We can all sit here and call so and so a punk...bottom line probably none or most of us have never played the game at a high enough level to really know what goes on...but as far I'm concerned the hacking and whacking with sticks and the pushing after whistles is a disgrace and very bush league...the entire league is guilty of this.

    I agree

    In the playoffs it gets amped up even more..compund that with the rivalries its down right nasty

    Curious to see how things go in Game 4..I'm sure the refs will be very tough in the early going

    I honestly want Neal to play

    :corn:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    81 wrote:
    it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:

    what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.

    i watched it on tsn ... the announcer said the penalty was deserving ... he ran the guy and left his feet ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djukr02Sedw about the 43 second mark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6yYQ-Lw ... re=related ... same guy ...
  • 81
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    polaris_x wrote:
    81 wrote:
    it's funny, cause the annoucers were all saying schenn's hit was good. of course the refs game him two for charging. :fp:

    what are these liberties on crosby that you speak of...link? if he were to stop acting like a punk, maybe the flyers would stop trying to fight him.

    i watched it on tsn ... the announcer said the penalty was deserving ... he ran the guy and left his feet ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djukr02Sedw about the 43 second mark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6yYQ-Lw ... re=related ... same guy ...


    imo...it looks like he left the ice post contact
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  • fife
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    In other NHL news, Daniel Sedin is going to have a full practice and might play game 4. don't agree with this. the guy has a concussion and they should let him rest and come back next year cause I don't see them coming back this series.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=393363
  • polaris_x
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    fife wrote:
    First off the Schenn hit was bad but what Asham did was much worse.

    secondly, I don't see how you can say that the Flyers have taken liberties on Crosby. have they hit him? YES. but have they tried to hurt him as much as the Pens have tried to hurt the Flyer players? NO

    look ... i'm telling it like i see it ... i know you guys are flyers fans but i find it hilarious that you guys want to pretend like your seem clean hockey team ... :lol::lol:

    i got no love for pittsburgh ... they aren't innocent of anything and i already stated that asham deserves whatever he gets ... but the reality is that the nhl is a bush league now where star players are getting abused because scrubs are being paid to do it and they aren't held accountable ...
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7uB7EE2_7M

    This is the big scrum...he continued to go for puck after goalie covered it...that's done all the time...he was surrounded by flyers after that...he was pushing back before the linesman arrived.

    I didn't really see much evidence in that video of Crosby waiting for the linesman to bail him out.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    81 wrote:
    imo...it looks like he left the ice post contact

    well ... i don't see it that way ... when you factor in the intensity of the series so far ... it shouldn't come as a surprise when someone comes looking for payback ...

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