Cardiff, Wales '00 - EV - "Must have been one of those fuckin nice people" (Someone stole a PJ crew wallet on the sight seeing bus and PJ ain't been back to Wales since)
I work at a golf course that is part of a large hotel in Ireland. The hotel projections for 2024 are way down from last year. We're getting a lot less Americans flying over this summer- they usually account for 90% of summer business. This is a trend that is happening throughout Europe. People are just much tighter with their money at the moment.
As an example- I'm flying into northern Spain for a week before I hit the Berlin shows. I booked my flight ages ago as summer flights around Europe can be expensive. My wife wasn't sure if she'd be able to accompany me to Spain bc of work commitments. She only found out last week she could go. She wound up paying less for her flight than mine. A flight to Barcelona dropping in price mid-summer? It's a pretty crazy market right now.
I wonder how many 10C Europeans are debating to cancel their memberships and just buy tickets on regular sales.
There's not much to debate (for me). Looking back, the Ten Club Presale made no sense at all for Europe. Neither in terms of the price advantage nor in terms of the best seats in the house. What Ticketmaster has put on sale in recent weeks, in terms of price and placement, is a slap in the face for every Ten Club member.
Let’s hope it teaches Pearl Jam something about who their audience is, and if expensive famous baseball-players bats really is what is important in life.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I work at a golf course that is part of a large hotel in Ireland. The hotel projections for 2024 are way down from last year. We're getting a lot less Americans flying over this summer- they usually account for 90% of summer business. This is a trend that is happening throughout Europe. People are just much tighter with their money at the moment.
As an example- I'm flying into northern Spain for a week before I hit the Berlin shows. I booked my flight ages ago as summer flights around Europe can be expensive. My wife wasn't sure if she'd be able to accompany me to Spain bc of work commitments. She only found out last week she could go. She wound up paying less for her flight than mine. A flight to Barcelona dropping in price mid-summer? It's a pretty crazy market right now.
Money is the issue. So with an audience that in the main area not extra wealthy it's all the same It's too expensive
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It's not reading the room .I remember saying this in the very beginning. I can't speak for USA but Europe is skint. It's not comparable to what the USA deem as normal prices. It's simply not normal here. Do your homework. It's just stupid to book Tottenham. And Ridiculous to change 170 a ticket.
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It's not reading the room .I remember saying this in the very beginning. I can't speak for USA but Europe is skint. It's not comparable to what the USA deem as normal prices. It's simply not normal here. Do your homework. It's just stupid to book Tottenham. And Ridiculous to change 170 a ticket.
I agree Rob. The price point for U.K./Europe is £80-£100 a ticket (as charged this Summer by massive acts like Foo Fighters and Taylor Swift). I will generally pay whatever to see Pearl Jam and am not fussed whether it’s £80 or £160 a ticket. But what I do know is that there are a bunch of people at my work who aren’t as fanatical as me about the band (but still strong fans). Two of them are going to Manchester, two of them are skipping the tour due to the cost, and the other three are missing it due to a combination of Green Day and Foo Fighters. I imagine this is reflective of most people in U.K./Europe. If we had had 2 Manchester shows and 2 O2 London shows at £110 a ticket, all four would be fully sold
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Agree but this isn’t normal for England. We are not used to US ticketing strategies
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Never heard of this in Sweden (yet)
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Not here mate
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Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Never heard of this in Sweden (yet)
Happens in Ireland all the time. I got great seats for Olivia Rodrigo in Dublin the day of the show, even though it supposedly sold out straight away + they had the registration crap that I missed out on.
I wonder how many 10C Europeans are debating to cancel their memberships and just buy tickets on regular sales.
There's not much to debate (for me). Looking back, the Ten Club Presale made no sense at all for Europe. Neither in terms of the price advantage nor in terms of the best seats in the house. What Ticketmaster has put on sale in recent weeks, in terms of price and placement, is a slap in the face for every Ten Club member.
I'm not yet ready to give up my membership...but they need to go back to announcing Europe summer tours in early december, really give 10C the best seats in the house (Berlin allocation) and keep it to arenas and festivals. And try to keep the pricing down. What gives me a little hope is that I've watched some acts from Waldbühne this summer on YouTube and they've brought the stage 2-4 meters forward. That would make a huge difference for us in E2 or A1...and that could be what Ten Club promised to me that they're going to do everything possible to reduce the obstructed view...bringing the stage forward could save this from looking at Green Day's setup from Waldbühne.
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Agree but this isn’t normal for England. We are not used to US ticketing strategies
What strategies? Nothin in NY under $600 on the broker sites. They are leaving millions of dollars unearned by never playing enough shows in the eastern US.
I get it that $200 is a ton of cash for a concert. I have never ever been able to buy a PJ ticket for $200 or less in my home region and never will.
Many on this forum will spend months on f2f and maybe score tickets for $185 face and pretend they are getting a great deal. If their time is worth $15 an hour to them, it’s actually a horrible deal.
Anyone who has followed the tours since 2022 would know the new trend is for TM to release the best tickets at the end. It doesn’t justify it but it’s not that shocking to see the trend continue.
Agree but this isn’t normal for England. We are not used to US ticketing strategies
It wasn't normal in the USA/Canada either(as Rather Starved pointed out that it started in 2022).
You could find a ticket here and there but nowhere near the amount of seats(Sections?) that all of sudden pop-up day or a few days ahead of an announced show now.
I’m surprised at people saying it’s not worth staying in the 10C. Surely you’d wait and see how the next tour goes. This may not be the norm next time but some bad decisions putting their faith in management, promotes, partners etc.
I’m surprised at people saying it’s not worth staying in the 10C. Surely you’d wait and see how the next tour goes. This may not be the norm next time but some bad decisions putting their faith in management, promotes, partners etc.
We’ll see, but this is all about what TM knows will bring in the most money. If the ticket’s priced appropriately, and it sells out in a day, they’ve lost potential profits. They may start at a slightly lower price next time if they do indeed take a loss giving away tickets, but I would fully expect a similar system going forward. Bands/acts have little to no ability to push back if this is what TM wants. If my TC number was above 3 or 4 hundred thousand, I’d question the value of it if I was only interested in ticket perks and didn’t care about GA.
I’m surprised at people saying it’s not worth staying in the 10C. Surely you’d wait and see how the next tour goes. This may not be the norm next time but some bad decisions putting their faith in management, promotes, partners etc.
We’ll see,
I think that’s my exact point, “We’ll see”. Don’t write it all off just yet in what may be an anomaly of a tour.
I can’t believe how many tickets have just been made available for Manchester. The whole way the sale has been handled for this tour is baffling. If they had just had reasonable prices at the offset I would have gone to Manchester and London. I can’t get the time off work to do Manchester now even if the price drops and I have plans on the same day as London. I’m genuinely confused by the whole situation.
Got a few friends who were originally joining me for the Manchester show. As soon as they saw the prices they very quickly changed their minds.
10C has certainly lost its grip on getting us the best tickets now they’ve bowed down to TM and have essentially washed its hands off the process of securing the best seats at reasonable prices! It’s a damn shame
Personally, I’m slightly pissed off I had to pay 160 in the first place for Manchester, but pj one of less than five bands I would pay this for. It is ludicrous that I saw foo fighters last night and will see green day next week for less than 160 altogether. However what I find more annoying is could have had a great seat for 160 if I’d booked today. Final point, if these would have been reasonably priced from the off would also have gone to London and perhaps Berlin. I know you can buy London for a reasonable price now but plans change and can’t make it anymore. Summary = shambles
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
It's too expensive
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.I remember saying this in the very beginning.
I can't speak for USA but Europe is skint. It's not comparable to what the USA deem as normal prices. It's simply not normal here. Do your homework. It's just stupid to book Tottenham. And Ridiculous to change 170 a ticket.
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
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dusseldorf 07
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astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
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nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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albany 06
hartford 06
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astoria 06
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this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
What gives me a little hope is that I've watched some acts from Waldbühne this summer on YouTube and they've brought the stage 2-4 meters forward. That would make a huge difference for us in E2 or A1...and that could be what Ten Club promised to me that they're going to do everything possible to reduce the obstructed view...bringing the stage forward could save this from looking at Green Day's setup from Waldbühne.
I've been in 10c for years and I'm also generally not fussed what I pay because I'm obsessed, but I'm starting to question myself now.
Seemingly no early entry for Manchester, loads of tickets suddenly made available, prices plummeting. What a mess.
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam II
I get it that $200 is a ton of cash for a concert. I have never ever been able to buy a PJ ticket for $200 or less in my home region and never will.
You could find a ticket here and there but nowhere near the amount of seats(Sections?) that all of sudden pop-up day or a few days ahead of an announced show now.