CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

O_G_D · March 2020

sxwxgirl1 said:

CO278952 said:

Pearl Jam doesn’t have a lot of frail 85+ year old fans so don’t think there is any possibility they will cancel the dates.

I am not 80, neither is my Husband, but sadly he suffers from Stage 3 COPD. If he gets this, he is dead. So as my 20 something Daughters and I go to the concert it will be in the back of our mind if we bring anything back to him, we will have essentially killed him. The crowding in arena's make it impossible to contain/control anything. It does take some of the zing out of the excitement as you also have to think of other's well-being outside the fan base alone.

Well said. It’s sad that there are others - and it would seem many who are only thinking of themselves when it comes to this. I’m a 41 year old diabetic so that’s an underlying health issue. I’m nervous about these shows being cancelled or postponed but if they are I will understand and except the reasons why even though I cannot state enough how disappointed I would be. I’m not an expert on any of this but things certainly do not appear to be getting better which doesn’t bode well for any of us with plans for these shows. It’s a potential cold hard reality we should all be prepared for.

cp3iverson · March 2020

Do what makes you feel comfortable. I personally think raiding Costco’s papertowel aisle and stocking up on MREs in a non-infected city is a bit ridiculous right now but i definitely have a supply of N95 and N100 masks for my family. We have some trips planned that we may or may not go on.

myoung321 · March 2020

gotthebottle said:

CO278952 said:

Pearl Jam doesn’t have a lot of frail 85+ year old fans so don’t think there is any possibility they will cancel the dates.

People with underlying medical conditions aren't all "frail and 85". COPD, diabetes are all noted in leaving someone more susceptible to a virus. Recent cancer treatment, immunosuppressive diseases....don't pre-judge that if you aren't 85 and frail that it's OK

Exactly....or maybe even a certain Guitarist, now in his 50s that deals with Crohn's Disease?

Weston1283 · March 2020

I agree. The virus is a real threat to people who are high risk. Everyone should use judgement and decide if attending shows, sporting events, etc is right for them. Wearing masks and washing hands are two very effective ways to prevent catching the virus.

With that said, I don’t see much value in cancelling the shows. The virus will be spread whether the shows happen or not. Unless there is a definitive ban by the state/country on ALL events, I think the shows will go on. Pearl Jam won’t cancel shows if tons of other bands are playing shows and 15-20,000 people are showing up to arenas around the country daily to watch march madness games.

THEBIBLEISTEN · March 2020

cp3iverson said:

Do what makes you feel comfortable. I personally think raiding Costco’s papertowel aisle and stocking up on MREs in a non-infected city is a bit ridiculous right now but i definitely have a supply of N95 and N100 masks for my family. We have some trips planned that we may or may not go on.

U think getting groceries and TP at the store is ridiculous but you have a stock pile of masks?

bootlegger10 · March 2020

sxwxgirl1 said:

CO278952 said:

Pearl Jam doesn’t have a lot of frail 85+ year old fans so don’t think there is any possibility they will cancel the dates.

I am not 80, neither is my Husband, but sadly he suffers from Stage 3 COPD. If he gets this, he is dead. So as my 20 something Daughters and I go to the concert it will be in the back of our mind if we bring anything back to him, we will have essentially killed him. The crowding in arena's make it impossible to contain/control anything. It does take some of the zing out of the excitement as you also have to think of other's well-being outside the fan base alone.

I am supposed to travel for shows and then visit my parents. I may cancel the parents trip for this very reason.

MD190661 · March 2020

Not to be too harsh, but it kind of should be up to people to decide as well. If they aren't comfortable going to an event for whatever reason, they should sell their tickets. No one is making anyone attend a show. And bands could allow for a refund if they really wanted to be generous about it.

cp3iverson · March 2020

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

cp3iverson said:

Do what makes you feel comfortable. I personally think raiding Costco’s papertowel aisle and stocking up on MREs in a non-infected city is a bit ridiculous right now but i definitely have a supply of N95 and N100 masks for my family. We have some trips planned that we may or may not go on.

U think getting groceries and TP at the store is ridiculous but you have a stock pile of masks?

Stockpile? No.

5 of them? Yes.

RatherStarved · March 2020

Weston1283 said:

I agree. The virus is a real threat to people who are high risk. Everyone should use judgement and decide if attending shows, sporting events, etc is right for them. Wearing masks and washing hands are two very effective ways to prevent catching the virus.

With that said, I don’t see much value in cancelling the shows. The virus will be spread whether the shows happen or not. Unless there is a definitive ban by the state/country on ALL events, I think the shows will go on. Pearl Jam won’t cancel shows if tons of other bands are playing shows and 15-20,000 people are showing up to arenas around the country daily to watch march madness games.

I don’t think PJ will feel compelled to go with the flow on this. They will do what they think is best regardless of what others decide.

Lostpawn · March 2020

kst said:

Weston1283 said:

I agree. The virus is a real threat to people who are high risk. Everyone should use judgement and decide if attending shows, sporting events, etc is right for them. Wearing masks and washing hands are two very effective ways to prevent catching the virus.

With that said, I don’t see much value in cancelling the shows. The virus will be spread whether the shows happen or not. Unless there is a definitive ban by the state/country on ALL events, I think the shows will go on. Pearl Jam won’t cancel shows if tons of other bands are playing shows and 15-20,000 people are showing up to arenas around the country daily to watch march madness games.

I don’t think PJ will feel compelled to go with the flow on this. They will do what they think is best regardless of what others decide.

I agree completely. What I learned from the Ultra situation in Miami today, though, is that sometimes it’s not in the performer’s hands. Ultra didn’t want to cancel, they got cancelled by the county and city.

The situations aren’t 1:1 - PJ shows are much smaller events with more local crowds. I’m just calling out that PJ may not have full agency in this situation. I hope and believe that all shows will go off just fine. But if not, the band may not be to blame.

given2fly23 · March 2020

1. Every medical professional I have heard in the past week has said that masks are not effective/necessary if you are trying to prevent getting the disease. They should be worn if you are sick or by medical professionals.

2. Bernie was just on Maddow. She asked him if the virus is affecting his campaign methods. He said they had a large rally in San Jose last week and were in communication with the public health department and they said to go ahead with it. I assume PJ will do the same and will take the advice of the professionals. Unfortunately for us, I think this means shows could be canceled any time up to the first notes.

Ray J. T. · March 2020

mattsavard said:

Ray J. T. said:

mattsavard said:

Some Miami officials pushing to postpone massive Ultra Festival.... ugh

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article240878956.html?fbclid=IwAR23DF9fyg30CgISIiBtD7X8gYDWSX_vgegK0Se5czRnKiabFJq-niBFNIM&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

You have to take into consideration that Miami is expecting roughly 200,000 people from over 105 different countries for the festival. You cant compare this situation to a PJ tour in the U.S.

I didn't realize I made any comparison to a PJ tour anywhere.

I never said you made any comparison, I was just trying to state that the fact that Miami officials made the decision to cancel the festival for this year is something I wouldn’t read much into when it comes to what PJ will decide in what to do with the upcoming tour, and why I believe this cancellation was the right move for our city. This will most certainly be a big economic loss, but I understand the stress we would potentially be putting our healthcare professionals under with such a mass gathering of folks from all different walks of life in the same space at this time. I agree with you with the fact that it’s good to discuss the information that is being provided to us, and with the fact that none of us here really know what the band will decide to do. I personally still feel pretty optimistic about the tour moving forward and will proceed with my traveling plans so long as the shows will proceed as scheduled. But at the same time I am also completely aware that this situation can change at any given moment. In the meantime I am just hoping that we will all have safe travels and the time of our lives as this tour is about to get underway in 2 weeks.

Ray J. T. · March 2020

Lostpawn said:

kst said:

Weston1283 said:

I agree. The virus is a real threat to people who are high risk. Everyone should use judgement and decide if attending shows, sporting events, etc is right for them. Wearing masks and washing hands are two very effective ways to prevent catching the virus.

With that said, I don’t see much value in cancelling the shows. The virus will be spread whether the shows happen or not. Unless there is a definitive ban by the state/country on ALL events, I think the shows will go on. Pearl Jam won’t cancel shows if tons of other bands are playing shows and 15-20,000 people are showing up to arenas around the country daily to watch march madness games.

I don’t think PJ will feel compelled to go with the flow on this. They will do what they think is best regardless of what others decide.

I agree completely. What I learned from the Ultra situation in Miami today, though, is that sometimes it’s not in the performer’s hands. Ultra didn’t want to cancel, they got cancelled by the county and city.

The situations aren’t 1:1 - PJ shows are much smaller events with more local crowds. I’m just calling out that PJ may not have full agency in this situation. I hope and believe that all shows will go off just fine. But if not, the band may not be to blame.

Well said.

cp3iverson · March 2020

given2fly23 said:

1. Every medical professional I have heard in the past week has said that masks are not effective/necessary if you are trying to prevent getting the disease. They should be worn if you are sick or by medical professionals.

The right masks definitely help in crowded, public places (if you’re wearing them correctly). Their issue is that the general public are now buying them and apparently affecting their ability to purchase them. Didn't realize that the medical suppliers take their inventory from Lowes/Home Depot/ and Walmart when supplies get low but what do i know?

RatherStarved · March 2020

cp3iverson said:

given2fly23 said:

1. Every medical professional I have heard in the past week has said that masks are not effective/necessary if you are trying to prevent getting the disease. They should be worn if you are sick or by medical professionals.

The right masks definitely help in crowded, public places (if you’re wearing them correctly). Their issue is that the general public are now buying them and apparently affecting their ability to purchase them.

Agreed. If masks were not effective, the medical people wouldn’t need to wear them. They might need them more than the average person, but it doesn’t mean the average person can’t benefit from the right mask if used correctly.

given2fly23 · March 2020

I believe it's because they have the masks fitted properly and they aren't wearing them all day, only around patients. Not my business, people can do what they want, but if it isn't airborne and only transmitted through droplets, I'm just gonna try to be careful about not touching people/surfaces, washing my hands and not touching my face.

lastexitlondon · March 2020

At this stage i dont want to go to a gig .
I know i will not be ok with 60.000 people at hyde park so im not gonna bother.
"Its supposed to be just fun"

JPPJ84 · March 2020

lastexitlondon said:

At this stage i dont want to go to a gig .
I know i will not be ok with 60.000 people at hyde park so im not gonna bother.
"Its supposed to be just fun"

I thought you weren’t gonna go anyway

vito · March 2020

lastexitlondon said:

At this stage i dont want to go to a gig .
I know i will not be ok with 60.000 people at hyde park so im not gonna bother.
"Its supposed to be just fun"

Then don't go but, why don't you do us all a favor and stop with the constant fear-mongering. We all know how serious this is but, every post of yours is the world is coming to an end and trying to prove that it's worse then any of us can imagine.

Mike D88 · March 2020

The run on masks is dumb. There are no dust masks or respirators available for their stated purposes in trades and workshops now. Most of the people buying these because of the virus will not need them, will not be protected by them, and most importantly, won't know how to use them properly.

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