European Tour Sales = Desaster

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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,023
    Also part of being in good financial standing is making smart decisions about what to buy.  I’ll spend today’s price for a good seat.  In my opinion there isn’t one good seat for a concert in a soccer stadium.  And for the record 160 pounds is over $200 US and over $270 Canadian.  Someone can confirm but I believe that makes London the most expensive standard price on the tour.  
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  • All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
  • Zen23Zen23 Posts: 470
    How likely do you think it is that a show in Barcelona will be canceled? I'm still thinking about going to both. But I'm a bit unsure whether I should already book the train journey. The hotel can be canceled free of charge. But not the train ticket.
  • just_onejust_one Posts: 2,171
    Zen23 said:
    How likely do you think it is that a show in Barcelona will be canceled? I'm still thinking about going to both. But I'm a bit unsure whether I should already book the train journey. The hotel can be canceled free of charge. But not the train ticket.
    Barcelona night 1 will end close to sell out if not sell out by show time.

    Barcelona night 2 wont be cancelled but it wont be sold out , it will be like katowice 2000 where they booked an extra night and it didnt sold very well at all and it ended up being one of best setlist ever.
  • mrk2mrk2 Posts: 2,067
    edited March 9
    Katowice 2 wasnt originally planned at all, it was added later when scheduled show in Budapest got cancelled. 

    This happened about 2,5 weeks before the show
    Post edited by mrk2 on
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  • ShibariShibari Posts: 14
    axeljohan said:
    they also rearranged in Düsseldorf back in 2007. Planned for the stadium, ended up in the arena. Great concert.
    The concert itself was actually fantastic. Organizationally, it was actually one of the worst concerts I've ever experienced and that's probably the reason why Pearl Jam only play in Berlin.
    The concert was originally planned for the then fairly new arena in Düsseldorf with around 55,000 seats. To my and obviously PJ's surprise, significantly fewer tickets were sold, even though they weren't yet working with these criminals from Ticketmaster at the time.
    The concert was moved to the then newly completed iss Dome. A place where, for example, there was no connection to local public transport at the time.
    The admission was catastrophic and so bad that the supporting bands played longer and to make matters worse, the fans in the room failed, so cups of ice cream were passed around at the time.

    The concert itself was cool, but I understand why the band will never come to Düsseldorf again.

    But a concert outside of Berlin would be nice.
  • axeljohanaxeljohan Posts: 460
    I think that the original plan for Düsseldorf was to place the stage in the stadium so that something around 25k could come to the concert. 55k would have been way too big for them, especially since they played some festivals and other arena shows in Germany that summer.
  • HK103094HK103094 Posts: 34
    Shibari said:
    axeljohan said:
    they also rearranged in Düsseldorf back in 2007. Planned for the stadium, ended up in the arena. Great concert.
    The concert itself was actually fantastic. Organizationally, it was actually one of the worst concerts I've ever experienced and that's probably the reason why Pearl Jam only play in Berlin.
    The concert was originally planned for the then fairly new arena in Düsseldorf with around 55,000 seats. To my and obviously PJ's surprise, significantly fewer tickets were sold, even though they weren't yet working with these criminals from Ticketmaster at the time.
    The concert was moved to the then newly completed iss Dome. A place where, for example, there was no connection to local public transport at the time.
    The admission was catastrophic and so bad that the supporting bands played longer and to make matters worse, the fans in the room failed, so cups of ice cream were passed around at the time.

    The concert itself was cool, but I understand why the band will never come to Düsseldorf again.

    But a concert outside of Berlin would be nice.

    The concert in Frankfurt in 2022 was fantastic. Probably the best PJ-concert I have seen.
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  • ShibariShibari Posts: 14
    HK103094 said:
    Shibari said:
    axeljohan said:
    they also rearranged in Düsseldorf back in 2007. Planned for the stadium, ended up in the arena. Great concert.
    The concert itself was actually fantastic. Organizationally, it was actually one of the worst concerts I've ever experienced and that's probably the reason why Pearl Jam only play in Berlin.
    The concert was originally planned for the then fairly new arena in Düsseldorf with around 55,000 seats. To my and obviously PJ's surprise, significantly fewer tickets were sold, even though they weren't yet working with these criminals from Ticketmaster at the time.
    The concert was moved to the then newly completed iss Dome. A place where, for example, there was no connection to local public transport at the time.
    The admission was catastrophic and so bad that the supporting bands played longer and to make matters worse, the fans in the room failed, so cups of ice cream were passed around at the time.

    The concert itself was cool, but I understand why the band will never come to Düsseldorf again.

    But a concert outside of Berlin would be nice.

    The concert in Frankfurt in 2022 was fantastic. Probably the best PJ-concert I have seen.
    ich komme gern nach frankfurt, für ein pearl jam konzert oder für die galaxy.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 2,127
    JPPJ84 said:
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
    I think this discussion has reached new lows if we’re now discussing a $12k two week trip in relation to a ‘proper set of circumstances’ to see a music concert. 

    My whole perceptions of what I thought this band and community was about has changed so much over the past few weeks. I think I need to take a break from this forum and just concentrate on looking forward to the shows I have booked. 
    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
  • just_onejust_one Posts: 2,171
    edited March 10
    Wife and i are doing glasgow on the 25th and 26th to see green day and the killers and then london,berlin both nights and barcelona both nights( all PJ) all this was around 4500€/5000€ with hotels,flights and plane tickets
  • Yeah, we've already paid $4,100 for airfare, but that also includes short flights between Ireland and Scotland. The hotels for 16 nights will be a total of $3,400. Thus, by the time we add money for the Dublin concert tickets, we'll be up to about $8K. Of course, that doesn't include money for food, drinks, souvenirs, etcetera. I mean, we'll actually be spending 16 nights in Europe. Those types of trips aren't cheap. We've spent a lot of years furthering our careers and raising our children, so it's time to splurge a little on ourselves. 🥑 
  • JimFletcherPearlJamJimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 359
    edited March 10
    Our trip to Ireland and Scotland isn't just about attending a Pearl Jam concert. That'll be one of the highlights for sure, but I think my wife is most looking forward to taking a train through the Scottish Highlands. We're going to have a blast! 
    Post edited by JimFletcherPearlJam on
  • For people on this forum who think that $12K for a European vacation is outlandish, they should know that our 19-year-old twins are in college, and we spend about $7,500 each month they're living on campus (living expenses and tuition/fees). Taking that into consideration, the aforementioned 16-day vacation for my wife and myself seems fairly inexpensive. 
  • I've wanted to see Pearl Jam in Ireland really badly for at least a decade. I have an affinity for Irish citizens. I think they're funny, friendly, and have the best accent. It's a convergence of several or more things for us. 
  • JimFletcherPearlJamJimFletcherPearlJam Posts: 359
    edited March 10
    After the Dublin show, I think the only other place I really "need" to see Pearl Jam will be at Jazzfest in New Orleans. I think I'll essentially be good just listening to their music at home or in the car after that. 🥑 
    Post edited by JimFletcherPearlJam on
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,895
    You sure are going through an extensive process of self-rationalization.

    You okay?
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  • I am. We're really stoked, and we're glad that we're not bringing the kids along on this trip. 
  • I hope to make some new friends on our trip. We'll see how that works out. ☘️ 
  • Tjm007Tjm007 Posts: 185
    JPPJ84 said:
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
    I’d pay $12k not to go to Ireland .
  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 935
    What you stay in Ballymun and get white vanned by a couple of knackers on your way to shopping at JD Sports and Penneys?
    Stars are suns to other people.

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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,023
    I figured out what a desaster is.  It’s the plural of disaster in some hybrid of French and English.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,869
    Le desaster
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Tjm007 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
    I’d pay $12k not to go to Ireland .
    Good to know, will I dm you my bank details?

    In all honesty you would likely be doing us all.a favor by not coming to Ireland so I'll accept half your offer.
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,869
    Ireland is beautiful 
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • tylermooretylermoore Posts: 930
    edited March 10
    Honestly good. Sorry if I’m still bitter about how 10c handles their tickets..wish the US show sales would’ve fallen flat too. 
    Still on the fence if I even re new 10c this summer. Haven’t benefited from being a member for 3-4 tours now, except with the last row in the UC last year. 
    If they expect people, their biggest fans, to rely so heavily on F2F, why do they even have the fan club anymore. 
    Post edited by tylermoore on
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,471
    JPPJ84 said:
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
    That strikes you as a lot for 2 people taking a 2 week vacation in Europe?
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    pjl44 said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    All I know is that if I want to see a certain band badly enough, then I'll find a way to see them perform in a desirable setting/manner, even if it means paying as much as $500 a ticket.  I mean, my wife and I will be seeing Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer.  We're going to spend nine nights in Ireland and five nights in Scotland.  Considering that we'll probably be paying approximately $12K-$13K for the entire trip, the price for Pearl Jam tickets is really a "drop in the bucket" from a monetary perspective.  For what it's worth, our Golden Circle tickets for Dublin only cost about $160 each, which seems like quite a bargain to me.  Anyway, I wish the rest of you luck in your search for the proper set of circumstances to attend certain shows in the future.  
    12k $ for a two week trip?! 🤯 I sure hope you‘ll have the time of your life for that amount of money 
    That strikes you as a lot for 2 people taking a 2 week vacation in Europe?
    Sure does
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,752
    For people on this forum who think that $12K for a European vacation is outlandish, they should know that our 19-year-old twins are in college, and we spend about $7,500 each month they're living on campus (living expenses and tuition/fees). Taking that into consideration, the aforementioned 16-day vacation for my wife and myself seems fairly inexpensive. 
    Nice to be wealthy
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