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  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    What is a DESASTER? Worse than a DISASTER? Sounds like it🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    Oh my goodness. It's already come to this?!
  • cloudsnmars
    cloudsnmars Switzerland (for now) But from Aotearoa Posts: 113
    kaw753 said:
    I have a stupid question. The NZ/Aus tour had the second nights added "due to unprecedented demand." Why did they even announce the second nights in Berlin and Barcelona before the first nights sold out? Seems like they could have saved themselves some bad PR by just holding off on those. Clearly, they would not have announced the second night and maybe pivoted by adding a show or two later on to fill in the schedule gaps. It seems like adding a show in the South of France or Zurich is better than playing to a half empty arena on a Monday night in Barcelona. 
    Mate, agree re:Zurich,that sold out in under 5 mins for the '22 show... would've done the same for this year I think... ( AC/DC sold out in 20 mins for a Stadium of 55,000 in Zurich for this year ) It's a strange model for this Euro tour,and skipping Italy is baffling also.Hope they make some changes for the next Euro tour,it's kinda sad how this has panned out ( ticket sales I mean)
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    edited March 2024
    The only way the barcelona,london and berlin starts selling is with these prices

    Barcelona
    Balcony upper seats :  60€
    Balcony lower seats : 80 €

    Berlin
    2nd ring : 100 €
    3rd ring : 80 €

    London : 
    Upper seats : 60£
    Lower seats : 80£
    rear GA : 90£

    unfortunally i dont see them lowering the prices so it is what it is
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 477
    Well, 2nd tier in Berlin is close to sold out, I don’t see that they need to lower those prices.

    3rd tier however is a different discussion. 
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 960
    kaw753 said:
    I have a stupid question. The NZ/Aus tour had the second nights added "due to unprecedented demand." Why did they even announce the second nights in Berlin and Barcelona before the first nights sold out? Seems like they could have saved themselves some bad PR by just holding off on those. Clearly, they would not have announced the second night and maybe pivoted by adding a show or two later on to fill in the schedule gaps. It seems like adding a show in the South of France or Zurich is better than playing to a half empty arena on a Monday night in Barcelona. 
    Way back, I recall that someone from Aus said that is their typical way of announcing 2 night shows, to announce nt1 then add the other a little later. The "official" tour rumor 1st page had 2 nights for Auck, Sydney and Melbourne, all along. So it appears they were planned, and not truly added. (Not to get hopes up for more "added" shows elsewhere).

    But I know nothing officially, just what someone posted here.
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 477
    edited March 2024
    I think they want to do their concerts with as little traveling as possible. That’s why they set up 2 concerts in Berlin and Barcelona and thought that fans from Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Italy will come to them.
    Looks like this doesn’t work out as planned. Maybe due to the high ticket prices, the late announcement and the football Euros, which makes traveling more expensive. 
    Post edited by axeljohan on
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    axeljohan said:
    I think they want to do their concerts with as little traveling as possible. That’s why they set up 2 concerts in Berlin and Barcelona and thought that fans from Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Italy. 
    Looks like this doesn’t work out as planned. Maybe due to the high ticket prices, the late announcement and the football Euros, which makes traveling more expensive. 
    i truly believe these are the reasons.

    Euro only affects germany
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    just_one said:
    axeljohan said:
    I think they want to do their concerts with as little traveling as possible. That’s why they set up 2 concerts in Berlin and Barcelona and thought that fans from Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Italy. 
    Looks like this doesn’t work out as planned. Maybe due to the high ticket prices, the late announcement and the football Euros, which makes traveling more expensive. 
    i truly believe these are the reasons.

    Euro only affects germany
    Are Germany playing themselves?? ;)
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 477
    28% of the non-festival gigs are in Berlin. You always had lots of people from Scandinavia, Poland, Italy at the Berlin shows in the past. Wonder how this will be this year.
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 477
    JPPJ84 said:
    just_one said:
    axeljohan said:
    I think they want to do their concerts with as little traveling as possible. That’s why they set up 2 concerts in Berlin and Barcelona and thought that fans from Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Italy. 
    Looks like this doesn’t work out as planned. Maybe due to the high ticket prices, the late announcement and the football Euros, which makes traveling more expensive. 
    i truly believe these are the reasons.

    Euro only affects germany
    Are Germany playing themselves?? ;)
    That would be the only way for us to win something this year.
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    It's a combination of everything. The high ticket prices. Especially the absurd prices for the upper tiers for all concerts. The long distances and travel costs for people from neighboring European countries whose countries were left out of the tour planning. The much too late announcement. Overlapping events that are either favored by fans or drive up costs even further. The Euro 2024 in Germany. Competing concerts and festivals in England. Let's keep it short. It's planned like shit.
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    edited March 2024
    Zen23 said:
    It's a combination of everything. The high ticket prices. Especially the absurd prices for the upper tiers for all concerts. The long distances and travel costs for people from neighboring European countries whose countries were left out of the tour planning. The much too late announcement. Overlapping events that are either favored by fans or drive up costs even further. The Euro 2024 in Germany. Competing concerts and festivals in England. Let's keep it short. It's planned like shit.
    pretty much this if u think about it clearly LOL
    Post edited by just_one on
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    JPPJ84 said:
    just_one said:
    axeljohan said:
    I think they want to do their concerts with as little traveling as possible. That’s why they set up 2 concerts in Berlin and Barcelona and thought that fans from Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Italy. 
    Looks like this doesn’t work out as planned. Maybe due to the high ticket prices, the late announcement and the football Euros, which makes traveling more expensive. 
    i truly believe these are the reasons.

    Euro only affects germany
    Are Germany playing themselves?? ;)
    no but for people who wanted to go to berlin , the flight costs are expensive to fly to germany because of the euro (and the announcement being made in february)
  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,481
    edited March 2024
    Zen23 said:
    It's a combination of everything. The high ticket prices. Especially the absurd prices for the upper tiers for all concerts. The long distances and travel costs for people from neighboring European countries whose countries were left out of the tour planning. The much too late announcement. Overlapping events that are either favored by fans or drive up costs even further. The Euro 2024 in Germany. Competing concerts and festivals in England. Let's keep it short. It's planned like shit.
    Main issue on the U.K. shows is the late announcement and people having booked other stuff. Welsh and Scottish fans are struggling to see PJ in Manchester (the concert they are normally going to) as they are watching Foo Fighters in Cardiff and Green Day in Glasgow that night. Similarly many Southern English are going to Green Day at Wembley or the Glastonbury festival on the night of the PJ London show. This is why PJ really needed to announce the shows much earlier (really they needed to announce in early Autumn). 

    Kings of Leon, who normally sell out and announced the week after PJ, are not selling for exactly the same reason. Their shows are timed on the same dates as Foo Fighters and the Killers etc, so people already have plans…
    Post edited by drfox on
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    edited March 2024
    drfox said:
    Zen23 said:
    It's a combination of everything. The high ticket prices. Especially the absurd prices for the upper tiers for all concerts. The long distances and travel costs for people from neighboring European countries whose countries were left out of the tour planning. The much too late announcement. Overlapping events that are either favored by fans or drive up costs even further. The Euro 2024 in Germany. Competing concerts and festivals in England. Let's keep it short. It's planned like shit.
    Main issue on the U.K. shows is the late announcement and people having booked other stuff. Welsh and Scottish fans are struggling to see PJ in Manchester (the concert they are normally going to) as they are watching Foo Fighters in Cardiff and Green Day in Glasgow that night. Similarly many Southern English are going to Green Day at Wembley or the Glastonbury festival on the night of the PJ London show. This is why PJ really needed to announce the shows much earlier (really they needed to announce in early Autumn). 
    im going to see green day on june 25 in glasgow(and the killers on the 26th also in glasgow) , having dookie and american idiot played in full plus 1 hour of other albums and new album is a no brainer for me specially since they dont come to portugal and i will be in london starting june 27th

    June 25th - Green Day ,Glasgow
    June 26th - The Killers , Glasgow
    June 29th - Pearl Jam, London
    July 02nd - Pearl Jam,Berlin
    July 03rd - Pearl Jam,Berlin
    July 06th - Pearl Jam,Barcelona
    July 08th - Pearl Jam,Barcelona
    July 13th - Pearl Jam,Lisbon (home show)

    CANT WAIT!!
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  • yorkshirestone
    yorkshirestone Posts: 38
    For those arguing current pricing is due to short tours. Increased costs etc I’ve just booked upper tier seats for the black keys at co-op live in Manchester. One of 3 dates in uk. 

    £42.50 rather than £160


  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 410
    cloudsnmars said:
    kaw753 said:
    I have a stupid question. The NZ/Aus tour had the second nights added "due to unprecedented demand." Why did they even announce the second nights in Berlin and Barcelona before the first nights sold out? Seems like they could have saved themselves some bad PR by just holding off on those. Clearly, they would not have announced the second night and maybe pivoted by adding a show or two later on to fill in the schedule gaps. It seems like adding a show in the South of France or Zurich is better than playing to a half empty arena on a Monday night in Barcelona. 
    Mate, agree re:Zurich,that sold out in under 5 mins for the '22 show... would've done the same for this year I think... ( AC/DC sold out in 20 mins for a Stadium of 55,000 in Zurich for this year ) It's a strange model for this Euro tour,and skipping Italy is baffling also.Hope they make some changes for the next Euro tour,it's kinda sad how this has panned out ( ticket sales I mean)
    Without knowing any more I would assume that this is the first leg and shows take place more centrally. The second leg will then take place in different places, somewhere in France, Copenhagen/Stockholm, Hamburg, Munich(overdue!), Prague, Vienna, Zurich, etc. 

    And at this point I only see the second night in Barcelona at a real danger of being possibly cancelled, all the other shows are selling well enough with 4months left. 
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    2006 - Verona, Torino, Pistoia
    2007 - Munich
    2013 - Calgary
    2014 - Vienna
    2016 - Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Pemberton
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    2022 - Frankfurt, Krakow, Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  

  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited March 2024
    marumaruko said:
    cloudsnmars said:
    kaw753 said:
    I have a stupid question. The NZ/Aus tour had the second nights added "due to unprecedented demand." Why did they even announce the second nights in Berlin and Barcelona before the first nights sold out? Seems like they could have saved themselves some bad PR by just holding off on those. Clearly, they would not have announced the second night and maybe pivoted by adding a show or two later on to fill in the schedule gaps. It seems like adding a show in the South of France or Zurich is better than playing to a half empty arena on a Monday night in Barcelona. 
    Mate, agree re:Zurich,that sold out in under 5 mins for the '22 show... would've done the same for this year I think... ( AC/DC sold out in 20 mins for a Stadium of 55,000 in Zurich for this year ) It's a strange model for this Euro tour,and skipping Italy is baffling also.Hope they make some changes for the next Euro tour,it's kinda sad how this has panned out ( ticket sales I mean)
    Without knowing any more I would assume that this is the first leg and shows take place more centrally. The second leg will then take place in different places, somewhere in France, Copenhagen/Stockholm, Hamburg, Munich(overdue!), Prague, Vienna, Zurich, etc.
    I would also like to have this optimism.
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,289
    marumaruko said:
    cloudsnmars said:
    kaw753 said:
    I have a stupid question. The NZ/Aus tour had the second nights added "due to unprecedented demand." Why did they even announce the second nights in Berlin and Barcelona before the first nights sold out? Seems like they could have saved themselves some bad PR by just holding off on those. Clearly, they would not have announced the second night and maybe pivoted by adding a show or two later on to fill in the schedule gaps. It seems like adding a show in the South of France or Zurich is better than playing to a half empty arena on a Monday night in Barcelona. 
    Mate, agree re:Zurich,that sold out in under 5 mins for the '22 show... would've done the same for this year I think... ( AC/DC sold out in 20 mins for a Stadium of 55,000 in Zurich for this year ) It's a strange model for this Euro tour,and skipping Italy is baffling also.Hope they make some changes for the next Euro tour,it's kinda sad how this has panned out ( ticket sales I mean)
    Without knowing any more I would assume that this is the first leg and shows take place more centrally. The second leg will then take place in different places, somewhere in France, Copenhagen/Stockholm, Hamburg, Munich(overdue!), Prague, Vienna, Zurich, etc. 

    And at this point I only see the second night in Barcelona at a real danger of being possibly cancelled, all the other shows are selling well enough with 4months left. 
    i really hope they dont cancel the 2nd barcelona night , a lot of people are travelling with that show in mind and have tickets!!

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