Pearl Jam Ruoff Music Center Postponement

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  • Hankj25Hankj25 Posts: 315
    Congrats to the FW fans.  You deserve it.  (Sniffles…a little bit…). But seriously, I’m glad everyone is OK and they are back.  Don’t know that I’ll have the stomach to follow the set lists for the rest of the tour…but I’ll come back around by the 2024 tour.  Hope you guys get an epic one…
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  • JadlerJadler Posts: 765
    On top of the set list stuff, the weather was just all time perfect that night too. And with a September show at Deer Creek you don't have to fight the sunset. Who knows what '24 brings on that front. 

    But I'm happy for Texas that the shows are back on. Cheers to all in attendance tonight. 
    This too. Was just a perfect night out there weather wise. 
  • incredebellincredebell Posts: 19
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  • On top of the set list stuff, the weather was just all time perfect that night too. And with a September show at Deer Creek you don't have to fight the sunset. Who knows what '24 brings on that front. 

    But I'm happy for Texas that the shows are back on. Cheers to all in attendance tonight. 
    YES. The weather would have been so perfect, which is never a given in Indy. 

    Which makes it even more of a bummer that Indy was the only stop on the tour with only one show. If it had two shows like every other city, postponing one would mean the 2nd show still had a chance of happening. And the weather still would've been nice.

    Instead, Indy gets the short shift. One show, questionable poster (Worst of the tour so far, IMO), and finally a postponed show. 
  • KC138045KC138045 Posts: 2,716
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
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  • On top of the set list stuff, the weather was just all time perfect that night too. And with a September show at Deer Creek you don't have to fight the sunset. Who knows what '24 brings on that front. 

    But I'm happy for Texas that the shows are back on. Cheers to all in attendance tonight. 
    YES. The weather would have been so perfect, which is never a given in Indy. 

    Which makes it even more of a bummer that Indy was the only stop on the tour with only one show. If it had two shows like every other city, postponing one would mean the 2nd show still had a chance of happening. And the weather still would've been nice.

    Instead, Indy gets the short shift. One show, questionable poster (Worst of the tour so far, IMO), and finally a postponed show. 
    Calling that poster questionable is an insult to questionable posters everywhere.  
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,858
    KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    Im stoked for people in FW tonight, and have accepted the postponement reason as is.  But mannnnnnnnn do I wish they could find some way squeeze Indy into this run of shows still......
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  • Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Strong disagree here… as talented a performer as Ed is, there’s a reason I could take or leave his solo shows but will travel thousands of miles for Pearl Jam. I could take a stand in for Matt or Boom for a night, but it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam w/ out Mike running around like a squirrel on cocaine or Jeff & Stone locked in on their grooves. 

    Would I have boycotted one of the St Paul shows if I knew Josh was filling for one of those three? Of course not… but I would have been disappointed about missing that musician, and in my mind there would be an asterisk next to that show. 
    Yeah but me personally I wouldn’t go if no Ed! Anyone else id still go if I had tickets 
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  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    I was originally on the side of, Noneya, but now I am right here with you.  All of fans that were there, some from other countries, some from across the country etc (8 hour drive for myself), I feel like we are at least owed something more than "someone was ill".  S. Tyler just shared that he has damaged vocal chords and had to postpone like 6  Aerosmith shows...what happened that was so bad to postpone the Indy show, but yet get on for Texas just a few days later?  Let the fans know!  To all the people that will hate on me for this post, so be it, but I think it is the least they could do.  Will it change the outcome, nope, but it would set a lot of poeples' minds at ease about why it happened so late.
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  • KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    But why what would that accomplish? So you can say oh I see why they canceled and it’s justified? 
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  • KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    But why what would that accomplish? So you can say oh I see why they canceled and it’s justified? 
    I think most of us would like to know that our time and money wasn't wasted for a trivial reason. They are going to play 3 days later without even announcing that Indy will be rescheduled in 2024.  Most examples of other artists canceling this year have already announced the exact date of the reschedule. Not to mention they are on tours with many more stops.   
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  • Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Strong disagree here… as talented a performer as Ed is, there’s a reason I could take or leave his solo shows but will travel thousands of miles for Pearl Jam. I could take a stand in for Matt or Boom for a night, but it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam w/ out Mike running around like a squirrel on cocaine or Jeff & Stone locked in on their grooves. 

    Would I have boycotted one of the St Paul shows if I knew Josh was filling for one of those three? Of course not… but I would have been disappointed about missing that musician, and in my mind there would be an asterisk next to that show. 
    Yeah but me personally I wouldn’t go if no Ed! Anyone else id still go if I had tickets 
    I know it happened once before, but I genuinely can't see them ever playing a show without Ed again. They would just cancel like they did on Sunday. 

    I mentioned already, I think the idea of playing a show without any of the core 5 members really is an absolute last resort for them. The suggestion that Josh has been brought on to be a stand in just doesn't hold water IMO. COULD it happen? Sure, I just don't think they want it to. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,296
    edited September 2023
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Strong disagree here… as talented a performer as Ed is, there’s a reason I could take or leave his solo shows but will travel thousands of miles for Pearl Jam. I could take a stand in for Matt or Boom for a night, but it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam w/ out Mike running around like a squirrel on cocaine or Jeff & Stone locked in on their grooves. 

    Would I have boycotted one of the St Paul shows if I knew Josh was filling for one of those three? Of course not… but I would have been disappointed about missing that musician, and in my mind there would be an asterisk next to that show. 
    Yeah but me personally I wouldn’t go if no Ed! Anyone else id still go if I had tickets 
    I know it happened once before, but I genuinely can't see them ever playing a show without Ed again. They would just cancel like they did on Sunday. 

    I mentioned already, I think the idea of playing a show without any of the core 5 members really is an absolute last resort for them. The suggestion that Josh has been brought on to be a stand in just doesn't hold water IMO. COULD it happen? Sure, I just don't think they want it to. 
    agreed...Josh is a great musician but to stand in for Jeff/Stone/Mike is impossible. It just wouldn't work.

    by impossible I mean that without TONS of practice as a band...not to say that he couldn't do it...just not spur of the moment



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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,813
    I'm still stoked about Jeremy Irons sitting in on skins. Tiiiight!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,813
    PhartN said:
    KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    I was originally on the side of, Noneya, but now I am right here with you.  All of fans that were there, some from other countries, some from across the country etc (8 hour drive for myself), I feel like we are at least owed something more than "someone was ill".  S. Tyler just shared that he has damaged vocal chords and had to postpone like 6  Aerosmith shows...what happened that was so bad to postpone the Indy show, but yet get on for Texas just a few days later?  Let the fans know!  To all the people that will hate on me for this post, so be it, but I think it is the least they could do.  Will it change the outcome, nope, but it would set a lot of poeples' minds at ease about why it happened so late.
    Sick/ill is the explanation. If they had to postpone the whole tour due to Eddie's vocal chords or Stone's strained neck they'd probably be more specific about why multiple shows were canned.

    I'm puzzled by the people that want to know what it was. What does that change? Then you just get people postulating on how they could have done x, y, or z in order to still perform. Some people are never satisfied. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:
    I'm still stoked about Jeremy Irons sitting in on skins. Tiiiight!
    fuck yeah! He was great in Reversal of Fortune...had no idea he played the skins
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  • PhartNPhartN Posts: 426
    tbergs said:

    Sick/ill is the explanation. If they had to postpone the whole tour due to Eddie's vocal chords or Stone's strained neck they'd probably be more specific about why multiple shows were canned.

    I'm puzzled by the people that want to know what it was. What does that change? Then you just get people postulating on how they could have done x, y, or z in order to still perform. Some people are never satisfied. 
    I already acknowledged that it wouldn't change anything as far as the reality of it. Even if they said, Eddie was ill, that would be enough for me.  I could care less what they could have done to go on, the fact is that they didnt go on, and they gave, what 5 hours notice with very little explanation?  I want to know anything more that "someone was ill" .  I mean, no sh!t someone was ill! I think it is a fair request to, at the very least, know who it was.  It would make it easier to swallow for those of us who could only go to this one particular show.
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    tbergs said:
    I'm still stoked about Jeremy Irons sitting in on skins. Tiiiight!
    fuck yeah! He was great in Reversal of Fortune...had no idea he played the skins
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  • Hankj25Hankj25 Posts: 315
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    As bummed as I feel, I don’t need the whole truth.  I expect Ed will say something tonight about it..I doubt he’ll go into great detail, but my hope is that his commentary makes it clear that the show couldn’t go on..they publicly tweeted an apology, so I guess. I don’t need much more.  Maybe just…”we’re so sorry” and then dedicate Off He Goes to us bummed out fans.   Who knows…maybe we get all of the tea spilled tonight…

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  • BSullyBSully Posts: 1,215
    KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    Im stoked for people in FW tonight, and have accepted the postponement reason as is.  But mannnnnnnnn do I wish they could find some way squeeze Indy into this run of shows still......
    Yes... something about moving it to next year just makes it part of the 2024 tour and not this one.
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  • KC138045KC138045 Posts: 2,716
    One bright spot is if it is moved to be part of next years tour we all already have tickets and don’t have to deal with the lottery. 
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    True... our spot is guaranteed at a show next year already!
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  • KC138045 said:
    One bright spot is if it is moved to be part of next years tour we all already have tickets and don’t have to deal with the lottery. 
    This.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    Jeff is going to cancel an entire leg of the US tour just because he has to play this one extra show in Indiana.
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  • BSully said:
    True... our spot is guaranteed at a show next year already!
    Nothing is guaranteed. They haven't announced a new date. The show still has a good possibility of getting cancelled. 
  • BSullyBSully Posts: 1,215
    BSully said:
    True... our spot is guaranteed at a show next year already!
    Nothing is guaranteed. They haven't announced a new date. The show still has a good possibility of getting cancelled. 
    No more of that negative talk around here... :)
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  • BSully said:
    True... our spot is guaranteed at a show next year already!
    Nothing is guaranteed. They haven't announced a new date. The show still has a good possibility of getting cancelled. 

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  • KC138045 said:
    I’m happy for the people going to FW that they get their show tonight but a part of me is still bitter that we still don’t have a full explanation why Noblesville was postponed. 
    But why what would that accomplish? So you can say oh I see why they canceled and it’s justified? 
    Yeah I don't care so much about why it was cancelled...meaning I don't care if I get more info.  They said illness I take it for what it is.

    I would just like them to provide a make-up date ASAP with time to prepare to be there....and I hope it's a Sunday again tbh.  
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