Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years.
They did provide info. They said early 2022.
I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years.
Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers?
I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO.
Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get.
I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
No need to apologize. I made a choice to take my refund. To answer your question, I don’t believe that to be the reason for the delay in rescheduling and whenever they announce the rescheduled dates there’s the same threat that COVID could get worse.
I wonder if they will have 10C ticket re-draws if they reschedule shows. It would be a smaller pool of tickets, as many most likely kept theirs.
With all of this speculation about 3/4 full arenas and such, it would be cool if they pushed all of the 10C seats in a bit further where it applies. I highly doubt it would happen though because of the logistical nightmare. That said, if a bunch of tickets are in fact dumped back into the pool, buying via public sale could yield better seats than some of the 10C seats being held onto. Should be interesting and I'm sure no one will be upset with the outcome.
Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years.
They did provide info. They said early 2022.
I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years.
Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers?
I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO.
Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get.
I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
when will that not be a possibility? if they're not comfortable now then they probably never will be.
It’s a reason to hold off announcing until relatively close to the tour dates.
wife just got off the phone with Royal Bank to ask about using our credit for the Cantrell show in Seattle late april. They said we have to use the credit by March 18 (2 years from when we were due home from Ottawa), and that is a West Jet rule, not Royal Bank. So now she called West Jet; the next available call back appointment is NEXT FUCKING THURSDAY. jesus fucking christ.
Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years.
They did provide info. They said early 2022.
I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years.
Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers?
I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO.
Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get.
I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
when will that not be a possibility? if they're not comfortable now then they probably never will be.
It’s a reason to hold off announcing until relatively close to the tour dates.
I feel like that’s not a great idea given the number of fans that travel great lengths to see the band. A large majority of attendees are visiting the area they are playing, sans the large cities in the northeast and on the west coast.
wife just got off the phone with Royal Bank to ask about using our credit for the Cantrell show in Seattle late april. They said we have to use the credit by March 18 (2 years from when we were due home from Ottawa), and that is a West Jet rule, not Royal Bank. So now she called West Jet; the next available call back appointment is NEXT FUCKING THURSDAY. jesus fucking christ.
If you have Facebook use messenger for west jet. I just did it last week. It took 5 days but at least I got a response. Anyway, you are able to extend your tickets by one year for 25 bucks that just come out of your travel bank. Msg me if you want any other details.
Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years.
They did provide info. They said early 2022.
I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years.
Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers?
I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO.
Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get.
I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
when will that not be a possibility? if they're not comfortable now then they probably never will be.
It’s a reason to hold off announcing until relatively close to the tour dates.
Risky. I was reading something earlier that said most tours are having 20-30% no shows and that’s for sold tickets.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years.
They did provide info. They said early 2022.
I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years.
Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers?
I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO.
Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get.
I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
when will that not be a possibility? if they're not comfortable now then they probably never will be.
It’s a reason to hold off announcing until relatively close to the tour dates.
I feel like that’s not a great idea given the number of fans that travel great lengths to see the band. A large majority of attendees are visiting the area they are playing, sans the large cities in the northeast and on the west coast.
I agree and it sucks - I definitely missed the international fans who couldn’t make it to Asbury Park. But the alternative is announcing early, having people make firm plans around dates 6 months in the future, then potentially having to postpone again. As someone who is weighing the possibility of booking a trip to see them in Europe next summer, from my perspective it’s not really better to have to wrestle with the choice of committing a bunch of money, time off requests etc to a show that might not happen.
None of this is ideal, but based on Eddie’s comments during these last four shows I think they’re going to hold off announcing until as close as possible. That will certainly inconvenience some people, and possibly result in lower attendance (though I’m personally skeptical about that), but I think that’s the route they’re going to go here. I could be wrong.
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
wife just got off the phone with Royal Bank to ask about using our credit for the Cantrell show in Seattle late april. They said we have to use the credit by March 18 (2 years from when we were due home from Ottawa), and that is a West Jet rule, not Royal Bank. So now she called West Jet; the next available call back appointment is NEXT FUCKING THURSDAY. jesus fucking christ.
That airline mildly f*ked me for Encore. They rebooked my flight home leaving 2 days later rather than re-routing me out of LAX sameday. I almost missed the date change. Naturally, I called in a mild panic (because most importantly- they were still getting me to the show on time). Anyhow, I skipped the call back option. I phoned late at night and got through after only an hour or so. Also, I used the: flight leaving within 72 hour option even though that was not true.
Long story short - stay on hold and call at night.
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2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov?
If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be
Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour) Europe June/July Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max) SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals) And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan
I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.
That's a really ambitious projection on your part for a band that hasn't shown a lot of touring energy the past several years.
I mean, I hope they surprise the lot of us. At the same time, I don't count on them to do it anymore.
It's easily explainable: 2021 - COVID
2020 - COVID
2019 - Studio time with plans to "gig a ton" in 2020. 2018 - Tour in three continents with plans to release an album which got delayed. 2017 - Not much
2016 - Tour like 2018, but more USA dates...and even Canada too. 2015 - Not much
If that 2018 album wasn't delayed and if no COVID, things look a lot different.
2021 - ?? 2020 - Tour? 2019 - Tour
2018 - South America and Europe tour...with a new album.
I get what you're saying, but this band is the back half of their career. They made a pretty conscious decision, as I see it, around the 20-year mark not to do business even remotely close to the pace of the industry. To expect them to tour--even in support of a new record--like they did in the first two decades is really optimistic and not based on a lot of recent history.
Don't count ifs or woulda/coulda/shoulda. Watch what they do. And what they do is at a totally different pace since PJ20. Seven shows in 2018 and calling that a US Tour was a big tell.
2018 Home/Away was also the end of the album after they had toured it to death (according to those comment sections.)
There really wasn't much of a reason to do a big USA tour in 2018 after 2013, 2014 and 2016.
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I am holding off on buying tickets for shows in the spring. Come on guys, you can do it! All of the shows that have happened this fall have to put your mind at ease to some degree. Just require the vax or negative test and let’s get rolllllling!
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I have Nashville tickets but got a bad feeling that show is getting cancelled. The state is trying to put a law in that you can’t make a rule that you have to show proof of vaccine for attendance at venues. Can’t see PJ following that if it passes
Yeah, my wife just started talking about booking a trip in april during spring break........it would be nice to know some dates. But I realize I won't and will either miss the trip and have no PJ concerts or go on the trip and miss PJ concerts
Yeah, my wife just started talking about booking a trip in april during spring break........it would be nice to know some dates. But I realize I won't and will either miss the trip and have no PJ concerts or go on the trip and miss PJ concerts
Yes, can't plan anything regarding Spring Break until we get this locked in. As stated before, even before Covid, PJ maximizes control via waiting as late as possible to announce so the virus (which is going nowhere) is a reasonable excuse, if you've not followed this bands pattern for decades.
Yeah, my wife just started talking about booking a trip in april during spring break........it would be nice to know some dates. But I realize I won't and will either miss the trip and have no PJ concerts or go on the trip and miss PJ concerts
If you book a trip to California you have a chance to have the best of both worlds. Given 5 shows there and one in Phoenix.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Yeah, my wife just started talking about booking a trip in april during spring break........it would be nice to know some dates. But I realize I won't and will either miss the trip and have no PJ concerts or go on the trip and miss PJ concerts
If you book a trip to California you have a chance to have the best of both worlds. Given 5 shows there and one in Phoenix.
But I got tickets all over the map...nashville, St.Louis and San Diego
Yeah, my wife just started talking about booking a trip in april during spring break........it would be nice to know some dates. But I realize I won't and will either miss the trip and have no PJ concerts or go on the trip and miss PJ concerts
If you book a trip to California you have a chance to have the best of both worlds. Given 5 shows there and one in Phoenix.
But I got tickets all over the map...nashville, St.Louis and San Diego
There you go - trip to San Diego. It’s lovely there!
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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I'm assuming its the endless "when's the tour getting announced? -->frustration ---> complaints --> new rumours ---> frustration" cycle.
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2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
Kidding, of course. That's very cool.
Long story short - stay on hold and call at night.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa
5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2018 Home/Away was also the end of the album after they had toured it to death (according to those comment sections.)
There really wasn't much of a reason to do a big USA tour in 2018 after 2013, 2014 and 2016.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa
5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin
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Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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