2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • Is it safe to say that have access to the number of tickets that are still being held and those that have been refunded? As others have said, a January announcement of a tour that is starting in March is not that uncommon.  Perhaps they feel confident that they'll be able to sell any tickets that have been refunded in that amount of time?  

    I've waited this long (and it's really been a no brainer). I can certainly hold out another couple months.  Of course, it's easy for me to say only holding tix to one show that I can drive to. Others that have multiple shows and airfare are certainly in a different boat. 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,847
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    Is it safe to say that have access to the number of tickets that are still being held and those that have been refunded? As others have said, a January announcement of a tour that is starting in March is not that uncommon.  Perhaps they feel confident that they'll be able to sell any tickets that have been refunded in that amount of time?  

    I've waited this long (and it's really been a no brainer). I can certainly hold out another couple months.  Of course, it's easy for me to say only holding tix to one show that I can drive to. Others that have multiple shows and airfare are certainly in a different boat. 
    I'm almost sure they have that information.  And that's essentially what I did.  I can drive to Baltimore so that's a no brainer for me.  But Its too far into the game for me to schedule anything more than Baltimore and maybe 2-3 shows on a Thursday-Sunday depending on what the final tour looks like (assuming it is in March)

    We know that there are over 10k tickets available for QBC show, which wasn’t sold out even before the pandemic.  I’m expecting that show to get canceled, with them calling it a “scheduling or routing conflict” due to the ticket sales.  No clue about the others though.

    anything on the east coast or on a weekend will be just fine
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  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,858
    For the past few months I've just assumed nearly identical dates from 2020 for a spring 2022 makeup tour, official announcement after the holidays. Definitely would prefer to book flights/hotels again, but doubt we'll see much info until January.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Is it safe to say that have access to the number of tickets that are still being held and those that have been refunded? As others have said, a January announcement of a tour that is starting in March is not that uncommon.  Perhaps they feel confident that they'll be able to sell any tickets that have been refunded in that amount of time?  

    I've waited this long (and it's really been a no brainer). I can certainly hold out another couple months.  Of course, it's easy for me to say only holding tix to one show that I can drive to. Others that have multiple shows and airfare are certainly in a different boat. 
    I'm almost sure they have that information.  And that's essentially what I did.  I can drive to Baltimore so that's a no brainer for me.  But Its too far into the game for me to schedule anything more than Baltimore and maybe 2-3 shows on a Thursday-Sunday depending on what the final tour looks like (assuming it is in March)

    We know that there are over 10k tickets available for QBC show, which wasn’t sold out even before the pandemic.  I’m expecting that show to get canceled, with them calling it a “scheduling or routing conflict” due to the ticket sales.  No clue about the others though.

    anything on the east coast or on a weekend will be just fine
    There is zero % chance QC gets cancelled. 
  • jefftjefft Posts: 660
    PJNB said:
    Is it safe to say that have access to the number of tickets that are still being held and those that have been refunded? As others have said, a January announcement of a tour that is starting in March is not that uncommon.  Perhaps they feel confident that they'll be able to sell any tickets that have been refunded in that amount of time?  

    I've waited this long (and it's really been a no brainer). I can certainly hold out another couple months.  Of course, it's easy for me to say only holding tix to one show that I can drive to. Others that have multiple shows and airfare are certainly in a different boat. 
    I'm almost sure they have that information.  And that's essentially what I did.  I can drive to Baltimore so that's a no brainer for me.  But Its too far into the game for me to schedule anything more than Baltimore and maybe 2-3 shows on a Thursday-Sunday depending on what the final tour looks like (assuming it is in March)

    We know that there are over 10k tickets available for QBC show, which wasn’t sold out even before the pandemic.  I’m expecting that show to get canceled, with them calling it a “scheduling or routing conflict” due to the ticket sales.  No clue about the others though.

    anything on the east coast or on a weekend will be just fine
    There is zero % chance QC gets cancelled. 
    That's a bold statement any facts behind it?
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited November 2021
    jefft said:
    PJNB said:
    Is it safe to say that have access to the number of tickets that are still being held and those that have been refunded? As others have said, a January announcement of a tour that is starting in March is not that uncommon.  Perhaps they feel confident that they'll be able to sell any tickets that have been refunded in that amount of time?  

    I've waited this long (and it's really been a no brainer). I can certainly hold out another couple months.  Of course, it's easy for me to say only holding tix to one show that I can drive to. Others that have multiple shows and airfare are certainly in a different boat. 
    I'm almost sure they have that information.  And that's essentially what I did.  I can drive to Baltimore so that's a no brainer for me.  But Its too far into the game for me to schedule anything more than Baltimore and maybe 2-3 shows on a Thursday-Sunday depending on what the final tour looks like (assuming it is in March)

    We know that there are over 10k tickets available for QBC show, which wasn’t sold out even before the pandemic.  I’m expecting that show to get canceled, with them calling it a “scheduling or routing conflict” due to the ticket sales.  No clue about the others though.

    anything on the east coast or on a weekend will be just fine
    There is zero % chance QC gets cancelled. 
    That's a bold statement any facts behind it?
    I see no scenario where we hold tickets for as long as we did and PJ cancels the show since they can’t sell some seats behind the stage. The QC head guy already said they are in talks of setting a date months ago, 0% is bold but the only way I see QC getting axed is if the whole tour does, How bad of a look would that be to cancel a show thousands of people held tickets for for a couple of years due to not selling out. Budapest survived multiple euro rescheds with just ok sales and they do not even have behind the stage seats. 0% should never be an option since anything is possible. I think it’s very close to that though
  • Probably buried pages ago in this thread, but looked in my archived emails, 2020 North American Tour announcement and pre-sale was sent out 1/13/20.  1st show of tour was 3/18.I think that was the shortest duration between pre-sale and 1st show that I can recall seeing since at least 2011.  Means nothing today, just re-surfacing that info. FWIW
  • DM282158DM282158 Posts: 546
    For those that booked flights on Porter Airlines. I got an email yesterday stating travel credits were good until 12/31/2022. Huge news. Just passing along. 
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  • I say have a great holiday season and relax a bit on this. I think we've heard from all the folks who are spicy over the ticket hold and lack of information. What more can be done at this stage? I do feel for some of you where it seems the lack of news has really been bothering you or upsetting your life balance! 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
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  • I say have a great holiday season and relax a bit on this. I think we've heard from all the folks who are spicy over the ticket hold and lack of information. What more can be done at this stage? I do feel for some of you where it seems the lack of news has really been bothering you or upsetting your life balance! 
    I think a lot of us express our frustration here because there is nothing that can be done.  
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  • I say have a great holiday season and relax a bit on this. I think we've heard from all the folks who are spicy over the ticket hold and lack of information. What more can be done at this stage? I do feel for some of you where it seems the lack of news has really been bothering you or upsetting your life balance! 
    I think a lot of us express our frustration here because there is nothing that can be done.  
    That much is clear. 
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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,874
    JimmyV said:
    Would love to buy a ticket for that show in NYC on March 17th but not sure if that will interfere with my MSG or Baltimore PJ shows. 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,847
    I was excited as hell for the new dates when concerts started up again over the summer.  That then turned into frustration sometime in Sept/Oct.  

    I’m no longer frustrated, I’ve just completely lost interest.  I’ll hit up 2-3 shows in the spring if I can and set my eyes on the rest of 2022 and the second NA leg.  
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    GlowGirl said:
    JimmyV said:
    Would love to buy a ticket for that show in NYC on March 17th but not sure if that will interfere with my MSG or Baltimore PJ shows. 
    We are getting tix for the show here in Boston on 3/15. I'm still holding my Balt tix but at this point if there is a conflict I'll probably just stick with the local show. 
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,094
    I bought Brian Fallon tickets for March 5th the other day.  If it ends up being a conflict with PJ I’ll deal with it down the line.  Not overly concerned either way.  It will be what it will be. 
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,847
    Do you think refunds will still be on the table after the new dates are announced if people do have a scheduling conflict?
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    Yes. There has to be a refund option once new dates are announced. 
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,094
    Without a doubt. 
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  • I was excited as hell for the new dates when concerts started up again over the summer.  That then turned into frustration sometime in Sept/Oct.  

    I’m no longer frustrated, I’ve just completely lost interest.  I’ll hit up 2-3 shows in the spring if I can and set my eyes on the rest of 2022 and the second NA leg.  
    Same
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  • chiefnjkchiefnjk Posts: 302
    Long shot but delay could also be related to PJ headlining certain North American fests? I'll hang up and listen.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    I think any further delay tied to them trying to add additional shows is indefensible at this point. We are coming up on two years since these tickets were sold. Europe has been rescheduled, and the new dates announced, twice already. People who bought tickets in North America deserve the same. 
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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,874
    JimmyV said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JimmyV said:
    Would love to buy a ticket for that show in NYC on March 17th but not sure if that will interfere with my MSG or Baltimore PJ shows. 
    We are getting tix for the show here in Boston on 3/15. I'm still holding my Balt tix but at this point if there is a conflict I'll probably just stick with the local show. 
    For me the MSG show is local, and my family lives in Maryland, so I am going to the Balt show with my sister and then visiting my family for a few days - so I definitely don't want to give up either of those shows. I guess I will wait a bit on Glen Hansard, and if it works out try to get tickets after we know the PJ dates. But I agree that it is hard to make plans.

  • JimmyV said:
    I think any further delay tied to them trying to add additional shows is indefensible at this point. We are coming up on two years since these tickets were sold. Europe has been rescheduled, and the new dates announced, twice already. People who bought tickets in North America deserve the same. 
    agreed.....I am from South America and need at least 3-4 month notice to plan a new trip to LA ... I expect some news until mid Dec... after that probably I will ask for refunds.... 

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  • Maybe this has already been said…I assume they want less people traveling to multiple shows hence why no announcement. Later the announcement, the less people will be able travel and make plans. 


    "So much it dont show"
  • release00 said:
    Maybe this has already been said…I assume they want less people traveling to multiple shows hence why no announcement. Later the announcement, the less people will be able travel and make plans. 


    Possible but I don’t think so.  Where there’s a will there’s a way to get to the shows unless there’s like less than a week’s notice.  Also multiple is half the fun.  Consider that you had to go to all 4 shows of 2021 if you wanted to hear Present Tense, Immortality, I Am Mine and Unthought Known.  
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  • Trying to be positive here…maybe the delay is because what they have to announce will blow our minds?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,916
    Last time they announced it in January.  This time it is early November and there is a pandemic.  I doubt they are feeling rushed at this point to announce.
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,845
    Last time they announced it in January.  This time it is early November and there is a pandemic.  I doubt they are feeling rushed at this point to announce.
    And we started hearing rumours in late November.  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    Both Euro rescheds we heard nothing before hand. Encore? Not one person posted on here about it happening. Times are changing I think with regards to leaks. People that work at arenas or are privy to info about holds will hopefully be able to give us some clarity if and when the info starts to trickle out. 
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