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Capitol Hill Riots

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,327
    Funny how some get so offended when not even quoted, eh? OMG, an opinion I don't agree with! The horror!
    I quoted you because of the after comment.  If you didn't direct that first part at me then I'll move on.

    I'm not offended at all, you're still a tool.
    Grasping. 
    So did you you or didn't you direct your tirade at me?
    Tirade? Because I think you made a lame attempt at minimizing something by asking "how many?" What if it were one person and the result was the same? Say, one person with an assault rifle and a few hundred rounds of armor piercing ammo? Almost a month later and we're debating "how many got inside." Like it makes a fucking difference. Tirade. Tool. You seem stuck on Ts today, Tempo. Tirade. Tool. Tirading Tool. Tooling Tirader. Tirading Tool Tooling Tiraded. FFS. I'll respectfully ask, do you watch the news? Did you not see the countless hours of footage from inside the capitol? Seems to me to be more than 200. But again, what fucking difference does it make?
    so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?

    I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here. 
    A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.
    we're on a rock band's message board. a guy asked a question. and your reaction is how many pages of this^^^^?

    I know you have trouble with people discussing things and not being at the same exact level of outrage as you all the time. But some of us like to calmly discuss facts. you blathered on and on and on about facts the last 4 fucking years. i'd think you of all people would appreciate someone wanting to clarify them. 
    I don’t go to a rock band’s message board for the clarification of “facts,” thank you. As someone already stated, oh never mind my blathering on. 
    sure you do. i've seen you clarify facts many times. but hey, I'm assuming you'll just refute that since I don't care enough to go through your 26 thousand plus posts to find examples. 

    rage on! 
    Clarifying “facts” or misinformation posted as “facts” are not the same as coming on to a rock band’s message board asking for “facts” to be clarified. If “facts” have to be clarified, doesn’t that then make them not “facts?” But something else, like misinformation?

    Love the name calling, by the way. I’ve got plenty o material but some on here are so thinned skinned and wouldn’t be able to cope. Enjoy your day!
    I now know what puke looks like in its online post form. 

    clarifying facts is not the same as asking for facts to be clarified. okedokie then. 

    open the Hali-vault. come on. you know we all die for new nicknames. 


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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,547
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,354
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,609
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 23,476
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,609
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 23,476
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
    always a pleasure. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 
    Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

    If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,609
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
    always a pleasure. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 23,476
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
    always a pleasure. 
    To quote your country's greatest recent export:
    "Oh, get off the cross, we need the wood."
    i can google "random quote generator" too. good for you! 

    Snappy comeback.

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,354
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 
    Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

    If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?
    I mean... she didn't way anything that isn't factual. The Capitol was stormed, and people were being killed. 

    These reps were right to fear for their lives in that moment, whether or not they knew for certain that people had been killed. 

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 24,820
    So Sorry to hear about Helmet Boy:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/capitol-rioter-helmet-boy-arrested-225828230.html

    Capitol rioter 'Helmet Boy' arrested in Pennsylvania after family tips off FBI

    Another Capitol rioter has been identified and arrested, this time thanks to a family member tipping off the law enforcement.

    Zachary Alam was arrested for his part in the US Capitol riot on 6 January.

    "Helmet Boy", as Mr Alam became known, allegedly used a helmet to smash the window to the Speaker's Lobby in the US Capitol, which connects to the House of Representatives.

    Mr Alam was arrested on 30 January in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

    He faces charges of assaulting a federal officer, obstructing law enforcement engaged in official duties indicent to civil disorder, knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

    Mr Alam was turned in after a family member tipped off the FBI.

    According to the FBI, Mr Alam apparently told the family member that "he was sorry for what he had done at the US Capitol but he was not going to turn himself into authorities because he did not want to go to jail".

    Prosecutors from the US Attorney's Office claim Mr Alam can be seen "punching the glass panels of the doors immediately behind the officers, causing the glass to splinter" and later throwing his body against a law enforcement officer trying to guard a door.

    "Shortly thereafter, he took a black-colored helmet from an individual with a yellow 'Don't tread on me' flag, took off his fur-lined hat and red baseball hat, and violently struck the middle glass panel repeatedly with the helmet, further shattering the window," the complaint against Mr Alam reads.

    Mr Alam's actions were tied to those of Ashli Babbit, the QAnon-supporting Capitol rioter who was shot and killed while trying to climb through a window. Mr Alam allegedly smashed the window that Mr Babbit was trying to climb through when she was killed.

    "After the shot, [Mr Alam] backed away toward the stairwell next to the U.S. Capitol Police tactical unit," the complaint reads.

    In addition to wearing a fur-lined trapper hat and red MAGA cap, Mr Alam was also wearing a black and gold trimmed shirt, and carrying a black and gold trimmed helmet. Black and gold is often warn by the Proud Boys, a violent street gang that attends demonstrations with the hopes of starting brawls with the participants. Member of the Proud Boys participated in the violence at the Capitol.

    It is unknown if Mr Alam has any affiliation, formal or otherwise, with the Proud Boys. He was arrested in Pennsylvania, so his use of the colours could simply be an indication that he's a fan of Pittsburgh sports.

    According to USA Today, there have been 182 Capitol rioters arrested on federal charges, including those arrested by the Capitol Police and DC Metro Police on the day of the attack.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,609
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 
    Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

    If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?
    i think she just added that to note the reality of the situation, not that she knew at the time. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,547
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 
    Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

    If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?
    unbelievable....she was talking about it three weeks later.  People did get killed.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.
    "none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again
    OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

    I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

    This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

    I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 
    Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

    If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?
    I mean... she didn't way anything that isn't factual. The Capitol was stormed, and people were being killed. 

    These reps were right to fear for their lives in that moment, whether or not they knew for certain that people had been killed. 
    I agree with this.

    Still is going to be alot of Tweeting going back and forth on this.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,609
    Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.
    pardon?

    Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?
    always a pleasure. 
    To quote your country's greatest recent export:
    "Oh, get off the cross, we need the wood."
    i can google "random quote generator" too. good for you! 

    Snappy comeback.


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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 4,467
    Stop the argument and bickering at and about each other and get back to the topic. if time-outs have to be given so it stops, some people are not going to be happy.
    There's a lot to be upset about; please do not take it out on each other. Apologies go a long way towards clearing the air...they have great power. 
    Thank you.
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