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mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.Scio me nihil scire
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-politicians-condemn-violence-at-capitol-call-for-an-end-to-riots
No, Trump didn't reach out. I don't see how that is relevant though. He was pretty much silent and remained out of public view for the next 2 weeks with just a couple exceptions.
Yes, many cops were injured and 1 even killed during the riot. But I was talking about the response to the riot, not the riot itself, which is what the meme was referring to-the response to the riot and the lack of Blue LM comments. There has been widespread outrage over the riot. It doesn't seem necessary to me to cry out "Blue Lives Matter" as a response, when the response is overwhelming angry that this happened from all sides and all people. I just don't see what the comment of "The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening." says about anything. Like everyone else, I've been outspoken against the riot. Do I need to include Blue LM in my comments when condemning the riots? I don't see the purpose in that since the riots have been accepted as wrong by just about everyone.
Thats different than the summer when you did hear support for Blue LM. Many were condoning the riots, saying its the only way to get change, accepting that violence against police was okay. That warrants a response of Blue LM.
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static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.0 -
Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.
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mace1229 said:Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:mace1229 said:Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.
2016, 12 cops shot and 5 killed by a gunman targetting police out of his hate for white police officers. Does that not deserve a response of Blue Lives Matter? When are we allowed to say a cop's life matters?
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dallas-police-ambush/protests-spawn-cities-across-u-s-over-police-shootings-black-n605686
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static111 said:mace1229 said:Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.
Edit: Wikipedia I know, but I remember now what kicked Blue Lives Matter off:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Lives_Matter#History
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Dude Blue Lives Matter is just a subtle way for assholes to say black lives don’t matter, always has been always will be.0
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PJPOWER said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.
Edit: Wikipedia I know, but I remember now what kicked Blue Lives Matter off:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Lives_Matter#History
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Blue Lives Matter was a racist Dog Whistle long before the protests last summer. As soon as people started banding together under the Black Lives Matter maybe around Ferguson the Blue Lives Matter fools made it up for the exact purpose of negating that Black Lives Matter.0
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Out of My Mind and Time said:Blue Lives Matter was a racist Dog Whistle long before the protests last summer. As soon as people started banding together under the Black Lives Matter maybe around Ferguson the Blue Lives Matter fools made it up for the exact purpose of negating that Black Lives Matter.
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mace1229 said:PJPOWER said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Hobbes said:OnWis97 said:static111 said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
Of course nobody's coming out and saying the rioting was good (not even the people that clearly wanted it to be successful). But I'm not really seeing a lot of them Backing the Blue, either.
Edit: Wikipedia I know, but I remember now what kicked Blue Lives Matter off:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Lives_Matter#History
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers
The shooter had an unrelated grudge, though, I believe. It’s been a bit and I don’t recall all of the details. I do remember seeing people yelling “Black Lives Matter” in the officers’ faces immediately after the shooting, though.
Anyways, after this was when I started seeing all of the “thin blue line” social media pictures and what not.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
When did cops endure hundreds of years of oppression? when have they been indiscriminately killed or abused or harassed because of their uniform by people in positions of authority?
when did black people choose to be black, like cops chose to be cops?
when has there ever been a parade attended by prominent people in government when a black person is killed?
i'd say blue lives have always mattered, and doesn't require a slogan, awareness, or acknowledgement of really any kind over an above what is already done.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:When did cops endure hundreds of years of oppression? when have they been indiscriminately killed or abused or harassed because of their uniform by people in positions of authority?
when did black people choose to be black, like cops chose to be cops?
when has there ever been a parade attended by prominent people in government when a black person is killed?
i'd say blue lives have always mattered, and doesn't require a slogan, awareness, or acknowledgement of really any kind over an above what is already done.
2) Never .... since you added people in position of authority
3) Never
4) George Floyd
I think it's clear that these are 2 different issues. The lack of respect for police in some communities is extremely disturbing. I suspect (have no data) that awful police tactics helped create that mistrust however.hippiemom = goodness0 -
agreedHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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cincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:When did cops endure hundreds of years of oppression? when have they been indiscriminately killed or abused or harassed because of their uniform by people in positions of authority?
when did black people choose to be black, like cops chose to be cops?
when has there ever been a parade attended by prominent people in government when a black person is killed?
i'd say blue lives have always mattered, and doesn't require a slogan, awareness, or acknowledgement of really any kind over an above what is already done.
2) Never .... since you added people in position of authority
3) Never
4) George Floyd
I think it's clear that these are 2 different issues. The lack of respect for police in some communities is extremely disturbing. I suspect (have no data) that awful police tactics helped create that mistrust however.0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Merkin Baller said:The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-politicians-condemn-violence-at-capitol-call-for-an-end-to-riots
No, Trump didn't reach out. I don't see how that is relevant though. He was pretty much silent and remained out of public view for the next 2 weeks with just a couple exceptions.
Yes, many cops were injured and 1 even killed during the riot. But I was talking about the response to the riot, not the riot itself, which is what the meme was referring to-the response to the riot and the lack of Blue LM comments. There has been widespread outrage over the riot. It doesn't seem necessary to me to cry out "Blue Lives Matter" as a response, when the response is overwhelming angry that this happened from all sides and all people. I just don't see what the comment of "The silence from the Blue Lives Matter crowd these last few weeks has been deafening." says about anything. Like everyone else, I've been outspoken against the riot. Do I need to include Blue LM in my comments when condemning the riots? I don't see the purpose in that since the riots have been accepted as wrong by just about everyone.
Thats different than the summer when you did hear support for Blue LM. Many were condoning the riots, saying its the only way to get change, accepting that violence against police was okay. That warrants a response of Blue LM.
It has been just three weeks and a day since a crazed mob, egged on by the former president and his supporters, stormed the U.S. Capitol to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election. They smashed into the building, carrying handcuffs and searching for our elected officials, whom they threatened to harm. They killed one police officer and wounded 140 more. Our vice president, senators, and representatives, along with all their staff, had to be evacuated to secure quarters, and then to hide, while rioters took over the building, rifling through their offices and smearing excrement on the floors.That anyone is trying to downplay that attempt to destroy the central principle of our democracy—fair elections and the peaceful transfer of power-- is appalling.And yet, Republican lawmakers are doing just that. Within the party, the pro-Trump faction and the business faction are struggling to take control. Those in the business wing of the party are not moderates: they are determined to destroy the government regulation, social welfare legislation, and public infrastructure programs that a majority of Americans like. But they are not openly white supremacists or adherents of the QAnon conspiracy, the way that Trump’s vocal supporters are.
The response to the riot by the repubs has been to double down, minimize it and wink-wink, nod-nod, in a ode to POOTWH. Elected repubs want to carry firearms onto the house floor and there's a QAnon whacko in thier midst and its kid gloves. Actions speak louder than words and what you're seeing is the destruction of our democracy. And you bear responsibility, according to McCrappy. How can you be so blind to this?
To the bolds in your post:
1. How loudly and forcefully? Actions speak louder than words. And all of those quoted in your Faux link? Were egging that shit on. Seems a tad hypocritical and CYA-ish.
2. Because POOTWH doesn't give a shit about Blue Lives Mattering. just a marketing slogan to him, like everything else.
3. What widespread outrage? the repubs are minimizing it and trying to forget it even happened. And their not even embarrassed by it. There's no deep soul searching going on. POOTWH's base is fine with it. Even Faux isn't really talking about it. Meanwhile, McCrappy goes to Mar-I Lieo to kiss the ring. Disgusting.
4. Wrong. If there was truth to this, repubs would vote to convict POOTWH and move on. 35% of repubs are totally fine with what happened.
5. Can you show me where this was publicly stated by elected officials?
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"Blue Lives Matter" was always code for "No, Black Lives Don't Matter" and the conservative crowd carrying those ridiculous thin blue line flags that beat and murdered Capitol Police Officers on January 6th confirmed this.
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mrussel1 said:cincybearcat said:HughFreakingDillon said:When did cops endure hundreds of years of oppression? when have they been indiscriminately killed or abused or harassed because of their uniform by people in positions of authority?
when did black people choose to be black, like cops chose to be cops?
when has there ever been a parade attended by prominent people in government when a black person is killed?
i'd say blue lives have always mattered, and doesn't require a slogan, awareness, or acknowledgement of really any kind over an above what is already done.
2) Never .... since you added people in position of authority
3) Never
4) George Floyd
I think it's clear that these are 2 different issues. The lack of respect for police in some communities is extremely disturbing. I suspect (have no data) that awful police tactics helped create that mistrust however.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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