Capitol Hill Riots

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

"none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 

Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?

I mean... she didn't way anything that isn't factual. The Capitol was stormed, and people were being killed. 

These reps were right to fear for their lives in that moment, whether or not they knew for certain that people had been killed. 

mcgruff10

So Sorry to hear about Helmet Boy:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/capitol-rioter-helmet-boy-arrested-225828230.html

Capitol rioter 'Helmet Boy' arrested in Pennsylvania after family tips off FBI

Another Capitol rioter has been identified and arrested, this time thanks to a family member tipping off the law enforcement.

Zachary Alam was arrested for his part in the US Capitol riot on 6 January.

"Helmet Boy", as Mr Alam became known, allegedly used a helmet to smash the window to the Speaker's Lobby in the US Capitol, which connects to the House of Representatives.

Mr Alam was arrested on 30 January in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

He faces charges of assaulting a federal officer, obstructing law enforcement engaged in official duties indicent to civil disorder, knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

Mr Alam was turned in after a family member tipped off the FBI.

According to the FBI, Mr Alam apparently told the family member that "he was sorry for what he had done at the US Capitol but he was not going to turn himself into authorities because he did not want to go to jail".

Prosecutors from the US Attorney's Office claim Mr Alam can be seen "punching the glass panels of the doors immediately behind the officers, causing the glass to splinter" and later throwing his body against a law enforcement officer trying to guard a door.

"Shortly thereafter, he took a black-colored helmet from an individual with a yellow 'Don't tread on me' flag, took off his fur-lined hat and red baseball hat, and violently struck the middle glass panel repeatedly with the helmet, further shattering the window," the complaint against Mr Alam reads.

Mr Alam's actions were tied to those of Ashli Babbit, the QAnon-supporting Capitol rioter who was shot and killed while trying to climb through a window. Mr Alam allegedly smashed the window that Mr Babbit was trying to climb through when she was killed.

"After the shot, [Mr Alam] backed away toward the stairwell next to the U.S. Capitol Police tactical unit," the complaint reads.

In addition to wearing a fur-lined trapper hat and red MAGA cap, Mr Alam was also wearing a black and gold trimmed shirt, and carrying a black and gold trimmed helmet. Black and gold is often warn by the Proud Boys, a violent street gang that attends demonstrations with the hopes of starting brawls with the participants. Member of the Proud Boys participated in the violence at the Capitol.

It is unknown if Mr Alam has any affiliation, formal or otherwise, with the Proud Boys. He was arrested in Pennsylvania, so his use of the colours could simply be an indication that he's a fan of Pittsburgh sports.

According to USA Today, there have been 182 Capitol rioters arrested on federal charges, including those arrested by the Capitol Police and DC Metro Police on the day of the attack.

HughFreakingDillon

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

"none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 

Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?

i think she just added that to note the reality of the situation, not that she knew at the time. 

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

"none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 

Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?

unbelievable....she was talking about it three weeks later.  People did get killed.

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

"none of us knew at the moment"....comprehension issue again

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1357351611979423745

OK hold it.  AOC knew people were being killed the moment they stormed the Capitol?  Didn't know what areas were compromised but knew people died?

I also believe Mace was escorted out of her office but decided to stay the night rather than return to her hotel room.  I also see her as opportunist for bringing this up too even if it is to call AOC out on something.

This is a story where people are going to be called out on their shit.

I don't infer from that tweet that she's claiming to have known at the time that people had been killed. 

Yeah, I see it as knowing people were being killed but not knowing where in the building insurgents were.

If you think other then fine, I get a different read of it.  If people were just running in the halls why bring up people were being killed?

I mean... she didn't way anything that isn't factual. The Capitol was stormed, and people were being killed. 

These reps were right to fear for their lives in that moment, whether or not they knew for certain that people had been killed. 

I agree with this.

Still is going to be alot of Tweeting going back and forth on this.

HughFreakingDillon

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Says the fucking guy who posts dumb shit all of the time.

pardon?

Is there something wrong?  Did I type in a different language?

always a pleasure. 

To quote your country's greatest recent export:
"Oh, get off the cross, we need the wood."

i can google "random quote generator" too. good for you! 

Snappy comeback.

Kat

Stop the argument and bickering at and about each other and get back to the topic. if time-outs have to be given so it stops, some people are not going to be happy.
There's a lot to be upset about; please do not take it out on each other. Apologies go a long way towards clearing the air...they have great power. 
Thank you.