CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

SS209208

Been along time fan, but not impressed by the lack of communication from the band in regards to concerns about tour. Not impressed 

on2legs

Saltzy23 said:

Zod said:

Saltzy23 said:

Urgh.

If they cancel these shows after the amount of money a lot of us are about to lose, we might need to collectively jump off a bridge.

Seriously fellas.  Kinda need you right now.

Please play!

What money are we going to lose?  It's a paper loss until you sell your investments.  Market has always rebounded.   Unless the world ends it most likely will again.   As long as you have a well diversified portfolio you ride it out.   You only lose money when you sell into the panic.

I was given a nice sized retention bonus in early February that was 401k eligible. I don't really need the cash right now, so I made the tremendous decision to dump a lot of it into my 401k so I could clean up on the match and max out as early in the year as I could.

After today, that bonus is gonna essentially have never happened.

In the stocks on sale analogy, I went into a store and loaded the car up, only to drive by 2 weeks later and see that they were having a 25% off everything sale.

Fack....

You were taking a gamble and timing the market.  Better off to have invested the same amount weekly over the whole year to cover any downturns. 

I’m sure you know that and I probably would have been tempted to have just dumped the whole check in at once too.  It’ll bounce back over time. 

gotthebottle

They canceled the BNP Paribas Indian Wells tennis tournament 1 DAY before the start. Due to alot of the visitors being from other countries. But they are probably mostly there already. 375 million into local economy over 2 weeks...pffft.
Coachella not looking good,....

JBob87

Mike D88 said:

The worst impact of this disease won't be panic or  fatalities. It will be system shock, with far-reaching secondary effects as the healthcare system is taxed beyond capacity--eventually preventing or complicating treatment of day-to-day medical emergencies in addition to leaving those vulnerable to SARS-CoV2 with limited treatment options.

This situation is about more than whether you can weather this virus. Most can. The real issue is, for perhaps months on end, unrelated serious illness or injury could leave you in serious jeopardy when it otherwise wouldn't.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/us-isnt-ready-whats-about-happen/607636/

https://t.co/yj7CujEsEU?amp=1

bootlegger10

The market was at 8,000 in 2008 and at 29,000 in 2020.  Yeah, I think it was fair to expect some sort of reduction.

scotterbs

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

Gern Blansten

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

Gern Blansten

SS209208 said:

Been along time fan, but not impressed by the lack of communication from the band in regards to concerns about tour. Not impressed 

Yes we should expect statements reflecting their medical opinions about all of this....

JP218404

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

Or just move the tour to April..cause...ya know....it gets warm😡

THEBIBLEISTEN

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

CROJAM95

GA people need to act civil, more hygienic this go around......I see problems with those crazy bastards

Lack of sleep, hygiene, close quarters....there needs to better organization there, aint worth it this time around

Gern Blansten

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

The same people that die from the flu are dying from this.  That's sad....but it's the flu.  The problem is that there is no vaccine.

People who are in danger should self quarantine.  That would be the elderly and those with auto-immune deficiencies.  The virus has little effect on children.  It's an upper respiratory illness for most of us.

The hype is that it spreads rapidly and those needing care overrun the hospitals which can effect any of us who need to use the hospital for other reasons.

THEBIBLEISTEN

Gern Blansten said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

The same people that die from the flu are dying from this.  That's sad....but it's the flu.  The problem is that there is no vaccine.

People who are in danger should self quarantine.  That would be the elderly and those with auto-immune deficiencies.  The virus has little effect on children.  It's an upper respiratory illness for most of us.

The hype is that it spreads rapidly and those needing care overrun the hospitals which can effect any of us who need to use the hospital for other reasons.

You sound like you work for Trumps medical team. With this kind of mindset things are going to get much much worse. Their needs to be more action and quickly. Can’t play dumb and think this thing is going away and will only effect the elderly. 

mattsavard

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

Please stop spreading this ignorance. 

IlliniGuy76

SS209208 said:

Been along time fan, but not impressed by the lack of communication from the band in regards to concerns about tour. Not impressed 

Going out on a wild limb here - they aren't communicating anything because there's nothing to communicate.  "Hey Guys - Pearl Jam here.  We're keeping the show dates as of 3/9/20.  We'll send out another email with a further update at another time".  

CROJAM95

hopefully after this is over, one way or the other....good hygiene, and maybe just maybe less eating fast food, smoking cigs, over drinking....maybe lets consider this

I get this is dangerous stuff, but so is stuffing your face and having every vice under the sun

Gern Blansten

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

The same people that die from the flu are dying from this.  That's sad....but it's the flu.  The problem is that there is no vaccine.

People who are in danger should self quarantine.  That would be the elderly and those with auto-immune deficiencies.  The virus has little effect on children.  It's an upper respiratory illness for most of us.

The hype is that it spreads rapidly and those needing care overrun the hospitals which can effect any of us who need to use the hospital for other reasons.

You sound like you work for Trumps medical team. With this kind of mindset things are going to get much much worse. Their needs to be more action and quickly. Can’t play dumb and think this thing is going away and will only effect the elderly. 

LOL....tRump and his "team" are a bunch of fucking morons.  They aren't doing anything right. 

But it's still the flu.  

sparky_fry

Gern Blansten said:

The same people that die from the flu are dying from this.  That's sad....but it's the flu. It's not the flu. They are both viral infections, but it is not influenza. The problem is that there is no vaccine.

People who are in danger should self quarantine.  That would be the elderly and those with auto-immune deficiencies.  The virus has little effect on children.  It's an upper respiratory illness for most of us. I do agree

The hype is that it spreads rapidly and those needing care overrun the hospitals which can effect any of us who need to use the hospital for other reasons. Narcissist much? 

SS209208

Thks going out on a wild limb, but we will see when they cancel who gets jam up for NY city want be me

PJ N DC

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

The same people that die from the flu are dying from this.  That's sad....but it's the flu.  The problem is that there is no vaccine.

People who are in danger should self quarantine.  That would be the elderly and those with auto-immune deficiencies.  The virus has little effect on children.  It's an upper respiratory illness for most of us.

The hype is that it spreads rapidly and those needing care overrun the hospitals which can effect any of us who need to use the hospital for other reasons.

You sound like you work for Trumps medical team. With this kind of mindset things are going to get much much worse. Their needs to be more action and quickly. Can’t play dumb and think this thing is going away and will only effect the elderly. 

2002: West Nile Virus....going to kill us
2003: SARS....going to kill us
2005: Bird Flu....going to kill us
2006: E.Coli....going to kill us
2009: Swine Flu....going to kill us
2014: Ebola...going to kill us
2016: Zika Virus....going to kill us
2019: Measles....going to kill us
2020: Coronavirus....going to kill us

See a recurring trend? What "action" are you hoping to see "quickly?" 

mace1229

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

And the flu isn't? But more people will catch the flu and more people will die from the flu than Corona this year. 20 million Americans get the flu and 20,000 die from it every year. We've raided Costco once the death toll hit 9 for hit virus.

pjhawks

CROJAM95 said:

hopefully after this is over, one way or the other....good hygiene, and maybe just maybe less eating fast food, smoking cigs, over drinking....maybe lets consider this

I get this is dangerous stuff, but so is stuffing your face and having every vice under the sun

i guess it depends on your definition but i definitely i draw the line at the over drinking.  sometimes this life just calls for over drinking. Plus everyone who gets this virus should suck down some whiskey. whiskey cures all.

IlliniGuy76

mace1229 said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Gern Blansten said:

scotterbs said:

Weston1283 said:

The only way they're cancelling shows Is if the city or venue cancels ALL of the shows/events for that city or venue.  

Can't rule out if someone in the band or crew falls ill. A lot of them are coming from Washington.

right but it's the flu....you get over it after a few days

It’s not the flu, wtf are you talking about? It’s a deadly virus. It’s spreading like wild flowers and people are dieing.

And the flu isn't? But more people will catch the flu and more people will die from the flu than Corona this year. 20 million Americans get the flu and 20,000 die from it every year. We've raided Costco once the death toll hit 9 for hit virus.

My favorite is my buddy who is a pharmacist telling me that you have elderly folks coming into his pharmacy in droves scared beyond belief that they're going to get this virus yet when asked if they had gotten their flu/pneumonia shot they tell him "no".

Gern Blansten

I am totally open to being totally wrong....I mentioned in another thread that I had two clients (one a lab tech in a large hospital in Indpls, and another a surgeon at IU Health in Indpls) both tell me that the danger to the majority of the public is small.

My daughter is an RN at IU Health and they are not sounding any major alarm bells internally.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm trying to convince myself that the tour will go on and I will see PJ in Oakland in April.

gotthebottle

There's nothing for the organization to say as they are waiting themselves.....anything can be cx at anytime, they are under no obligation to "give us warning". And yes, most of public not at risk but he problem (thanks to f'head administration slow response and not paying attention to what was going on in China 3 months ago)....is that we don't know who is positive and how many people they can or have spread it to.

Gern Blansten

Our local high school alerted us to a parent that had been exposed.  It's all over the place folks.....

That is partly why the death rate is so high.  The people that have it that are not negatively effected are not included in the total so the % seems very high.

gotthebottle

Gern Blansten said:

Our local high school alerted us to a parent that had been exposed.  It's all over the place folks.....

That is partly why the death rate is so high.  The people that have it that are not negatively effected are not included in the total so the % seems very high.

yes, because not all carriers have symptoms you don't know unless you test EVERYBODY, which is impossible. 

Ray J. T.

IlliniGuy76 said:

SS209208 said:

Been along time fan, but not impressed by the lack of communication from the band in regards to concerns about tour. Not impressed 

Going out on a wild limb here - they aren't communicating anything because there's nothing to communicate.  "Hey Guys - Pearl Jam here.  We're keeping the show dates as of 3/9/20.  We'll send out another email with a further update at another time".  

Agreed. Nothing for the band to comment on at this point. I am sure that the band and staff, like everyone else is looking at the situation on a day to day basis and would only make a statement where one needed to be made. As of right now everything seems to be moving forward as planned and scheduled. NCAA  announced yesterday that they plan on proceeding with the tournament as scheduled and having the fans in attendance. I personally do not see a reason as to why any events should be canceled, postponed, or taking place without fans in attendance. To all the fans out there right now who are concerned with the possible implications of traveling, attending shows, and or upset with the band for "lack of communication" why not just pull out of the shows yourselves and sell tickets through the F2F system in place? I understand that there quite a few out there that are concerned with the risks (some with really damn good reasons) but I do see some others here that come off as though they feel as if the band is doing something very irresponsible by moving forward as scheduled (so it seems) and not providing fans with some kind of formal statement up to this point. No one is forcing anybody to attend, and or travel. 

Saltzy23

The world is on fire.

kerbjack

Once you start seeing sporting events in North America being held without crowds, I think concerts are in the same boat. With the band announcing festival dates, it seems plans are status quo until we hear differently.