CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

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  • Saltzy23
    Saltzy23 Posts: 1,350
    edited March 2020
    This virus is a 2.5 on the freak out scale based on its severity and number of impacted people globally, and everyone is acting like it's a fucking 8.

    That is what a lot of people are getting angry and agitated over.  Of course it's an actual thing, but I mean for Christ's sakes....chill the fuck out.

    What are some of these people gonna do if God forbid there ever is a global event that has actually does have a good chance of taking them out if they are this freaking out this much over this?
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  • jhager79
    jhager79 Woodstock Ontario Posts: 294
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    mace1229 said:
    The virus is already dying out. China has reported significant decreases. As outbreaks continue in 1st world free countries and more tests are conducted the death rate will plummet due to quality healthcare.

    No plans to cancel major events in april such as coachella, nfl draft, country thunder. The band is on social media actively promoting sales and Breakfast was upgraded to be with both stone and mike!

     If you are afraid just F2F and move on. Stop fear mongering
    FAKE NEWS! You sound like you listen to the orange menace who says "the tests are beautiful" and "everyone will get one"....virus is not dying out at all. And with more testing you'll find out more people that are positive, people without symptoms can spread the virus. 
    Coachella is going on as of now since the Riverside County Public Health MD has no cases in the county as of now. AS OF NOW....
    This morning they said China has more people recovering than being infected. Assuming you believe China’s numbers, that means it’s getting better.
    1. I don’t believe China.
    2. U.S. numbers are rising.

    Just facts. 
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    edited March 2020
    The NBA is already having discussions about playing games without a crowd. If they pull that trigger, the arenas that they play in gonna have a tough time having any events in them. 

    Will that happen? I doubt it but ya never know 
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  • O_G_D
    O_G_D Toronto Posts: 542
    At this point I am preparing for the bad news.  I've almost pretty much accepted it in my mind.  I will be completely disappointed but I will totally get and understand why.  I'll truly be shocked if their are not any repercussions for some or all of the shows as things stand currently and seem to be progressing.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    I don't see why they can't postpone the tour just to err on the side of caution.  Let this virus work itself out and come out rocking twice as hard.  No concert is worth endangering someone else's life.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Melzombie
    Melzombie Charleston, SC Posts: 200
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    All the airlines seem to be waving cancelations fees. Refunds? That’s another story 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited March 2020
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    I just got this email from United:
    "Before you fly
    To give you the greatest flexibility, when you book any flight with us now through March 31, you can change it for free over the next 12 months – any ticket, any fare type, any destination."
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't see why they can't postpone the tour just to err on the side of caution.  Let this virus work itself out and come out rocking twice as hard.  No concert is worth endangering someone else's life.  
    Because the band is using this tour in part to promote the album. I agree with you that it’s not worth endangering someone else’s life but people in this thread are acting like catching this thing is a death sentence (it’s not unless you are elderly and have pre-existing conditions and even then it’s not guaranteed you’re a goner) and that there would he a high likelihood that someone infected will even be at the concert. Using the MSG show as an example, NY has 45 confirmed cases and has a population of almost 20 million. I’ll take those chances. Like I’ve said multiple times in this thread, I will take all the proper precautions like washing my hands regularly, staying home if I feel the slightest bit sick, and covering my mouth if i cough or sneeze but I’m also not going to live my life in fear. Could circumstances change in the coming weeks where a significant portion of the population catch it? Sure - and then my opinion might change. But in the meantime, the hysteria being spread in this thread is part of the problem.
  • Melzombie
    Melzombie Charleston, SC Posts: 200
    mcgruff10 said:
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    I just got this email from United:
    "Before you fly
    To give you the greatest flexibility, when you book any flight with us now through March 31, you can change it for free over the next 12 months – any ticket, any fare type, any destination."
    shit. my flight for St. Louis is the day before the show in April. 
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,336
    At the end of the day there is not a single one of us that has any decision making power whether or not this tour gets canceled or remains as planned. In the meantime, let’s try to focus the control we do have and not bash one another for feeling the way we do about all of this.
  • RatherStarved
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    Usually AA doesn’t give refunds and they charge a fee for changes.

    They have added more flexibility on new bookings but not existing to my knowledge.

    I have a similar situation and am just going to wait and see.  There’s no benefit to cancelling now, and they might introduce a more flexible policy.

    Also sometimes if you call in and explain the reason you might get an agent who makes an exception.  Occasionally.


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  • southernmanfan
    southernmanfan Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 1,029
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    Yeah I’m also preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ....
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  • whitepants
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    Pearl Jam on Twitter just posted this:

    https://twitter.com/PearlJam/status/1236362227785109504

    Let's get this show on the road. Only 11 more days until the start of the 2020 tour!
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  • bbiggs
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    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    Are you certain that Southwest gives full refunds if you cancel a flight? All 3 of my flights for this tour are with Southwest, so this would be good to know. I can call them as well, obviously, but curious if you know this for fact. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,017
    Pearl Jam on Twitter just posted this:

    https://twitter.com/PearlJam/status/1236362227785109504

    Let's get this show on the road. Only 11 more days until the start of the 2020 tour!
    This is BIG.  To me this is their way of saying "were not cancelling anything."  If the thought was even in their minds, they wouldn't be posting things like this to the official account.
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  • O_G_D
    O_G_D Toronto Posts: 542
    Pearl Jam on Twitter just posted this:

    https://twitter.com/PearlJam/status/1236362227785109504

    Let's get this show on the road. Only 11 more days until the start of the 2020 tour!
    This is BIG.  To me this is their way of saying "were not cancelling anything."  If the thought was even in their minds, they wouldn't be posting things like this to the official account.
    This gives me hope!  I hope it all goes through without at hitch but I can't deny that this whole situation has definitely been sucking some of the air out of the room......
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  • Melzombie said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    I just got this email from United:
    "Before you fly
    To give you the greatest flexibility, when you book any flight with us now through March 31, you can change it for free over the next 12 months – any ticket, any fare type, any destination."
    shit. my flight for St. Louis is the day before the show in April. 
    This waiving of fees applies to new bookings made between March 1 and March 31, not existing reservations. The way they phrased it is very misleading. So if you were to book a trip before the end of the month, there would be no fees incurred if you were to change it at any point over the next 12 months. They are doing this because people are afraid to fly. If Toronto gets postponed, I'm very curious to see what Air Canada does for my existing flights - if not a full refund then I want a full credit that doesn't expire.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Melzombie said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Melzombie said:
    Does anyone know if American Airlines will give refunds if they cancel?
    I know Southwest does...(one of the many reasons why I always fly with them)
    first time flying AA to St. Louis.
    Yes, I'm preparing for the devastation of not seeing PJ.
    I just got this email from United:
    "Before you fly
    To give you the greatest flexibility, when you book any flight with us now through March 31, you can change it for free over the next 12 months – any ticket, any fare type, any destination."
    shit. my flight for St. Louis is the day before the show in April. 
    This waiving of fees applies to new bookings made between March 1 and March 31, not existing reservations. The way they phrased it is very misleading. So if you were to book a trip before the end of the month, there would be no fees incurred if you were to change it at any point over the next 12 months. They are doing this because people are afraid to fly. If Toronto gets postponed, I'm very curious to see what Air Canada does for my existing flights - if not a full refund then I want a full credit that doesn't expire.
    Great pick up on the small details. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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