The coronavirus

mrussel1

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason7192 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Kat said:

My mask wearing has ZERO to do with politics. I'll decide about wearing it when it's time. It's not time yet and I don't feel a need to rush. 

Good for you!  And I agree!  As I have stated several times, at this stage in the game, we ALL know the risks associated with the virus.  If I do not want to get the vaccine, that should be as fine me choosing to get the vaccine.  Same with the masks.  Time to return to normal and let people decide what is best for them!

Not getting the vaccine may be fine for you as an individual, but it completely ignores the potential to impact others (e.g. those people who cannot get the vaccine due to other health complications). It also ignores the possibility of the virus mutating among the non-vaxxed population into something that the current vaccines cannot protect. If that happens, we could all be back at square one. 

some people just don't get it. 

we're supposed to be a collective. a fucking team. but nope. "I don't need it, so fuck you" is the mandate from some on the right. 

selfishness is a core characteristic of being on the right.

atlas shrugged, anyone?

Led by Ayn Rand Paul

mrussel1

CM189191 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason7192 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Kat said:

My mask wearing has ZERO to do with politics. I'll decide about wearing it when it's time. It's not time yet and I don't feel a need to rush. 

Good for you!  And I agree!  As I have stated several times, at this stage in the game, we ALL know the risks associated with the virus.  If I do not want to get the vaccine, that should be as fine me choosing to get the vaccine.  Same with the masks.  Time to return to normal and let people decide what is best for them!

Not getting the vaccine may be fine for you as an individual, but it completely ignores the potential to impact others (e.g. those people who cannot get the vaccine due to other health complications). It also ignores the possibility of the virus mutating among the non-vaxxed population into something that the current vaccines cannot protect. If that happens, we could all be back at square one. 

some people just don't get it. 

we're supposed to be a collective. a fucking team. but nope. "I don't need it, so fuck you" is the mandate from some on the right. 

selfishness is a core characteristic of being on the right.

atlas shrugged, anyone?

idk
something tells me John Galt would've worn a mask and gotten vaccinated

not as an act of selflessness
but rather as an act of self-preservation, and because he actually believed and understood science.  

John Galt was selfish, but he wasn't a moron

Yes agreed because objectivism doesn't preach stupidity just the selfishness. 

gimmesometruth27

CM189191 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason7192 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Kat said:

My mask wearing has ZERO to do with politics. I'll decide about wearing it when it's time. It's not time yet and I don't feel a need to rush. 

Good for you!  And I agree!  As I have stated several times, at this stage in the game, we ALL know the risks associated with the virus.  If I do not want to get the vaccine, that should be as fine me choosing to get the vaccine.  Same with the masks.  Time to return to normal and let people decide what is best for them!

Not getting the vaccine may be fine for you as an individual, but it completely ignores the potential to impact others (e.g. those people who cannot get the vaccine due to other health complications). It also ignores the possibility of the virus mutating among the non-vaxxed population into something that the current vaccines cannot protect. If that happens, we could all be back at square one. 

some people just don't get it. 

we're supposed to be a collective. a fucking team. but nope. "I don't need it, so fuck you" is the mandate from some on the right. 

selfishness is a core characteristic of being on the right.

atlas shrugged, anyone?

idk
something tells me John Galt would've worn a mask and gotten vaccinated

not as an act of selflessness
but rather as an act of self-preservation, and because he actually believed and understood science.  

John Galt was selfish, but he wasn't a moron

maybe in 1950s america. in present day america stupidity is a virtue.

GlowGirl

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason7192 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Kat said:

My mask wearing has ZERO to do with politics. I'll decide about wearing it when it's time. It's not time yet and I don't feel a need to rush. 

Good for you!  And I agree!  As I have stated several times, at this stage in the game, we ALL know the risks associated with the virus.  If I do not want to get the vaccine, that should be as fine me choosing to get the vaccine.  Same with the masks.  Time to return to normal and let people decide what is best for them!

Not getting the vaccine may be fine for you as an individual, but it completely ignores the potential to impact others (e.g. those people who cannot get the vaccine due to other health complications). It also ignores the possibility of the virus mutating among the non-vaxxed population into something that the current vaccines cannot protect. If that happens, we could all be back at square one. 

some people just don't get it. 

we're supposed to be a collective. a fucking team. but nope. "I don't need it, so fuck you" is the mandate from some on the right. 

hedonist

Kat said:

I'm seeing articles now about how traumatized many people are feeling by what we've gone through the last 15 months. It's been HUGE and it's going to be a while before things feel normal. We're all still working through it and everyone isn't the same. Many people still have underlying health issues and they have to be extra careful. It's ok. If we take care of each other and pull together, I think that some day, it really will be over...until the next virus, sadly. We know more now though. Be safe all.

We had that opportunity. For more than a year.

Perhaps because of that, the cynical side of me thinks if it didn’t change during all that time (look at this thread alone!), I doubt it will now. 

Bentleyspop

Saw this on my afternoon run....

mickeyrat

Bentleyspop said:

Saw this on my afternoon run....

seems like a rolling coal douche too. fairly large exhaust....

Halifax2TheMax

Bentleyspop said:

Saw this on my afternoon run....

Did you yell out, “kinky” as you jogged past?

Weston1283

This is real

mickeyrat

Weston1283 said:

This is real

4 yr scholarship includes room and board

be real interested to see how many get vaxxed between now and then.

rhanishane

https://cryptoslate.com/vitalik-buterin-1-billion-in-shiba-inu-donates-it-all-to-indias-covid-fight/

JeBurkhardt

lastexitlondon said:

Why is a vaccine passport bad . We have to have vaccines  to enter some countries already and nobody moans at all. In fact they pay to have them 

True, my son went with a church group to Haiti when he was a teenager and had to show proof that he had gotten certain vaccinations. If I remember correctly, I think we ended up paying close to $75 for the shots.

mickeyrat

proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.

Meltdown99

I’m guessing that countries that require proof of vaccines are countries that do a poor job of vaccinating their own citizens.  

I can seen needing proof of vaccine to board flights, concerts and things like that…

but everyday life, no.  Business is hurting here in Ontario…they just want to open, they are not turning customers away…neither are movie theatres or casinos… 

Merkin Baller

hedonist said:

FiveBelow said:

Ketchup has no place on a hotdog.

Amen. 

Frankly (no pun intended), it’s sick and it’s wrong. Period. 

Just catching up on this thread.... I USED to respect your opinion, Hedo. 


Ketchup & spicy mustard or GTFO

lastexitlondon

I had small pox vaccine  as a kid. My parents paid for it to go to st.lucia . Without  it no travel. 
Its been happening  over 40 years. Its a non issue

Weston1283

Would be awesome if Pearl Jam had some sort of band signed give away that vaccinated 10c members could enter (even though im sure most folks here got vaccinated on their own will already)

Spiritual_Chaos

HughFreakingDillon said:

we're supposed to be a collective. a fucking team. but nope. "I don't need it, so fuck you" is the mandate from some on the right. 

Well, this is what Scandinavia and the amazing idea of Social Democracy has been trying to tell the world - and I guess the US in particular - since like the 30s-40s...

Meltdown99

Weston1283 said:

Would be awesome if Pearl Jam had some sort of band signed give away that vaccinated 10c members could enter (even though im sure most folks here got vaccinated on their own will already)

I’d like to think most of us will get vaccinated on their own…

Bentleyspop

mickeyrat said:

proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.

This is unfortunately very true.
The amount of people I know who go to the same beach, same resort, same lake, same casino year in and year out is disappointing. 
This is a big beautiful country to explore and then there is the whole rest of the world.

stuckinline

Weston1283 said:

Would be awesome if Pearl Jam had some sort of band signed give away that vaccinated 10c members could enter (even though im sure most folks here got vaccinated on their own will already)

This^

Meltdown99

Now we are travel shaming?  

It appears the US Travels plenty…

https://ftnnews.com/tours/37448-countries-that-travel-the-most-and-top-destinations-in-2019

Weston1283

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/ohio/dewine-announces-ohios-covid-19-health-orders-will-end-june-2/530-e705cd4e-7831-4823-8006-ab1e637ab389

I recommend watching the full video in the link above

Ohio is dropping all restrictions, health orders, and masking on June 2nd.  Gov. DeWine thanks everyone for cooperating over the past year, says it is time to drop the orders, but also emphasizes how important the vaccine is and how detrimental it can be to you if you choose not to get it.

"It’s time to end the health orders. It’s been a year," DeWine said. "You’ve followed the protocols. You’ve done what we’ve asked. You’ve bravely fought this virus. And now, our cases are down, and we have a tested and proven weapon in the vaccine that all Ohioans 12 and over can utilize." 

nicknyr15

Meltdown99 said:

Now we are travel shaming?  

It appears the US Travels plenty…

https://ftnnews.com/tours/37448-countries-that-travel-the-most-and-top-destinations-in-2019

Travel shaming. Lol. These boards get ridiculous quite often.  

lastexitlondon

I believe the conversation  was about  vaccine  passport  and the  fact  they already really exist in most countries  to travel to some places 

Halifax2TheMax

Seems the top three US destinations are quite exotic, full of mosquitoes and water borne diseases and ailments. Good thing two of three are full of English speakers and conversant English is probably required to work in the resorts in the third. Since ‘Muricans can’t take their guns to most places, never know when you’ll need to shoot a virus, better to travel somewhere “safe.”

HughFreakingDillon

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.

This is unfortunately very true.
The amount of people I know who go to the same beach, same resort, same lake, same casino year in and year out is disappointing. 
This is a big beautiful country to explore and then there is the whole rest of the world.

I go to the same beach every summer, and I love it, my wife loves it, and so do my kids. Some people just don't have the funds and/or ability to travel on a bigger scale. All our friends are there, our kids friends are there. it's our little paradise for a few weeks every summer. 

lastexitlondon

I dont think  its a problem  to go anywhere you love. 
Some here are anti passport but it happens already is the point

hedonist

Merkin Baller said:

hedonist said:

FiveBelow said:

Ketchup has no place on a hotdog.

Amen. 

Frankly (no pun intended), it’s sick and it’s wrong. Period. 

Just catching up on this thread.... I USED to respect your opinion, Hedo. 


Ketchup & spicy mustard or GTFO

Et tu, Merkin?!

At least I’m with you on spicy mustard

To the vaccination passport...sign of the times, and frankly, makes sense to me for now. It doesn’t make me feel infringed upon at all.

Weston1283

I think it will end up being you have one of two options
1) You have a vaccine passport/card
2) If not vaccinated you will need to continue providing a negative covid test (likely a rapid upon landing at a destination so it cant be faked) when you travel

Honestly i think either option is fine.  I'm not against a vaccine passport but I think a negative test upon landing or entry that can be verified is acceptable too.