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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Weston1283 said:
    I think it will end up being you have one of two options
    1) You have a vaccine passport/card
    2) If not vaccinated you will need to continue providing a negative covid test (likely a rapid upon landing at a destination so it cant be faked) when you travel

    Honestly i think either option is fine.  I'm not against a vaccine passport but I think a negative test upon landing or entry that can be verified is acceptable too.
    For No. 2, I wonder what the protocol is/would be upon presenting a positive test after having been on a plane for however many hours.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,367
    I thought I had heard that there is a new rapid test being developed that would get results in mere seconds/minutes, but I can't find a link. anyone else hear this?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Weston1283 said:
    I think it will end up being you have one of two options
    1) You have a vaccine passport/card
    2) If not vaccinated you will need to continue providing a negative covid test (likely a rapid upon landing at a destination so it cant be faked) when you travel

    Honestly i think either option is fine.  I'm not against a vaccine passport but I think a negative test upon landing or entry that can be verified is acceptable too.
    Fake Vaccination cards will be a thing.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    NYC offers Mets and Yankees tix if you get vaxed!

    NYC is also offering the shot to travelers from abroad.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,197
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    This is unfortunately very true.
    The amount of people I know who go to the same beach, same resort, same lake, same casino year in and year out is disappointing. 
    This is a big beautiful country to explore and then there is the whole rest of the world.
    I've been to 44 states, Canada, Italy, and Ireland. I have absolutely no memory of proving vaccinations. Maybe it's done when getting a passport renewal or something?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,197
    tempo_n_groove said:
    NYC offers Mets and Yankees tix if you get vaxed!

    NYC is also offering the shot to travelers from abroad.
    The city is paying for baseball tickets?  That's gotta be brought up by Tucker, right? If that's not socialism, I don't know what is.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,414
    Which state or county will be the first to raffle an AR15? With a 30 round capacity drum?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,823
    OnWis97 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    This is unfortunately very true.
    The amount of people I know who go to the same beach, same resort, same lake, same casino year in and year out is disappointing. 
    This is a big beautiful country to explore and then there is the whole rest of the world.
    I've been to 44 states, Canada, Italy, and Ireland. I have absolutely no memory of proving vaccinations. Maybe it's done when getting a passport renewal or something?
    It has to do mostly with traveling to developing or "third world" countries. For things like Malaria, Cholera, etc..

  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited May 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I thought I had heard that there is a new rapid test being developed that would get results in mere seconds/minutes, but I can't find a link. anyone else hear this?

    Some Canadian scientists are perfecting a saliva based test that uses paper test strips and is ready in 20 minutes. I posted a link a couple of weeks ago...

    Here it is:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/university-of-waterloo-researchers-covid-test-1.6007736
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    List of countries, territories and areas
    Vaccination requirements and recommendations for international travelers, including yellow fever and malaria 

    https://www.who.int/ith/2016-ith-county-list.pdf

    Does anyone else find it terrifying that the US DOESN'T require any vaccinations to travel in/out of the country?
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,723
    edited May 2021
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/05/13/fauci-masks-outside-harlow-sciutto-cohen-sot-newsroom-vpx.cnn

    masks down if vacced and outside

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,576
    CM189191 said:
    Does anyone else find it terrifying that the US DOESN'T require any vaccinations to travel in/out of the country?
    What western countries does?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,367
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I thought I had heard that there is a new rapid test being developed that would get results in mere seconds/minutes, but I can't find a link. anyone else hear this?

    Some Canadian scientists are perfecting a saliva based test that uses paper test strips and is ready in 20 minutes. I posted a link a couple of weeks ago...

    Here it is:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/university-of-waterloo-researchers-covid-test-1.6007736
    thanks. that will be huge in being able to isolate people quickly. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,605
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 
    One doesn't have to have travelled abroad to know that vaccines are required to visit some places. 

    If someone is lacking in that knowledge, that means they are ignorant to those facts. That's pretty much the literal definition of the word. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,367
    people take "ignorant" too harshly. all it means is "lacking knowledge". it doesn't mean someone is stupid. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,440
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited May 2021
    Merkin Baller said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 
    One doesn't have to have travelled abroad to know that vaccines are required to visit some places. 

    If someone is lacking in that knowledge, that means they are ignorant to those facts. That's pretty much the literal definition of the word. 
    True, but the response I replied to was criticizing the lack of travel Americans do. Thus my response. 
    If one was not trying to be insulting, they wouldn't call someone ignorant. They would say something like "If travel was more affordable to Americans, maybe they would understand more what is expected" and not just call us ignorant for not traveling. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Which state or county will be the first to raffle an AR15? With a 30 round capacity drum?
    Magazine, not drum. bwahahaha.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,605
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    Merkin Baller said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    OnWis97 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    NYC offers Mets and Yankees tix if you get vaxed!

    NYC is also offering the shot to travelers from abroad.
    The city is paying for baseball tickets?  That's gotta be brought up by Tucker, right? If that's not socialism, I don't know what is.
    The city is paying for ball tix and for travelers to come and get vaxed.  It's a huge promotion here in NY.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,440
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled. 
    you are free to ignore me. most of the time it makes my time here enjoyable ignoring you. you really should try it.

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-cuomo-nyc-covid-vaccination-incentive-mets-yankees-20210505-byrjp5rwyjerhoenopyegs3ndm-story.html

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,440
    tempo_n_groove said:
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-cuomo-nyc-covid-vaccination-incentive-mets-yankees-20210505-byrjp5rwyjerhoenopyegs3ndm-story.html

    Get a shot, get a ticket!

    ohio. 5 seperate draws for a million each for adults vaxxed by drawing time. 12 and up? 5 full ride scholarships to the in state school of choice(provided admission requirements are met)
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,605
    mace1229 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-cuomo-nyc-covid-vaccination-incentive-mets-yankees-20210505-byrjp5rwyjerhoenopyegs3ndm-story.html

    Get a shot, get a ticket!

    ohio. 5 seperate draws for a million each for adults vaxxed by drawing time. 12 and up? 5 full ride scholarships to the in state school of choice(provided admission requirements are met)
    Good ideas.  I see more of this happening to get people vaxed.  I'm holding out for the Hawaii trip.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Ontario remains locked down until June 2nd.  Schools will remain virtual until the labour unions and public health reach a consensus to open schools…I doubt schools open till September…we will see.
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