The coronavirus

HughFreakingDillon

post-infection covid immunity lasts many months, study finds:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/health/covid-immunity-lingers-months-wellness/index.html

OnWis97

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Halifax2TheMax

Rounding the curve and headed toward Sturgis.

PJPOWER

HughFreakingDillon said:

post-infection covid immunity lasts many months, study finds:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/health/covid-immunity-lingers-months-wellness/index.html

I’ve seen several studies lately looking at how T-cells could come into play with long term immunity.

gimmesometruth27

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

post-infection covid immunity lasts many months, study finds:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/health/covid-immunity-lingers-months-wellness/index.html

I’ve seen several studies lately looking at how T-cells could come into play with long term immunity.

earlier this week i saw something about a study showing that immunity does not last as long and that makes people susceptible to catching covid again. i will try to find it.

Spiritual_Chaos

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

gimmesometruth27

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

also need a control group of people who both breathe air and have hands.

hedonist

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

also need a control group of people who both breathe air and have hands.

mfc2006

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

also need a control group of people who both breathe air and have hands.

LOL!!!!

cincybearcat

what dreams said:

cincybearcat said:

lastexitlondon said:

mcgruff10 said:

We just doubled our student population; I teach from a little corner of my classroom and don't move.  I feel like it is only a matter of time before an outbreak occurs.  In my school we have had teachers have legit panic attacks so severe that they were rushed to the hospital.   

Its just unfair on teachers to risk their  life thats  not part of the deal. Fuck this shit

My daughter has been in school all year. About 70% choose in school option. About 1200 kids roughly. 0 in school transmission. 

I have not been in a classroom in a school all year. This week alone, three students' *entire families* have contracted the virus, big Hispanic families. Parents who had to work brought it home. But when I look at the state database of reported cases, guess how many new cases were listed for my city in the past week? ONE. The tracing, the reporting -- the numbers are all bullshit. Don't believe any of them.

I suspect a couple of things are going on in schools regarding transmission, in general.

1. School districts are lying about and covering up the number of cases, using HIPAA as their excuse. I know this is happening for sure in parts of my state (but not my district. My district has handled this whole situation tremendously well, thankfully).

2. School districts with large populations of low income students are seeing more outbreaks. My district will be over-run by this disease if we go back in. I don't know about your child's school, but based on your report of 0 cases, I wonder how lily-white affluent it is. Or who's lying.

Look, I was sharing my personal data. I’m sure it’s not the same everywhere. 

The school is more affluent but has a decent amount of diversity but it’s in regards to asian families.  

Masks and protocols work if people follow them. They are working all over the place. Masks work. Distance as you can works.

If people are bring it home from work they are having the proper protocols set in place. It works. We just have to stop being so fucking stupid, it’s nothing to do with “lily white”, it’s being smart. If everyone wore masks, distance as appropriate we’d be able to get our hands around this. But I’m pretty tired of people thinking safety protocols don’t work. It’s always like this, people don’t believe in safety protocols (either too much or too little). Everyone thinks they are the expert. Listen to the real experts. Covid is awful, it is killing people. It is killing people because others aren’t doing the basic things needed.

gimmesometruth27

cincybearcat said:

what dreams said:

cincybearcat said:

lastexitlondon said:

mcgruff10 said:

We just doubled our student population; I teach from a little corner of my classroom and don't move.  I feel like it is only a matter of time before an outbreak occurs.  In my school we have had teachers have legit panic attacks so severe that they were rushed to the hospital.   

Its just unfair on teachers to risk their  life thats  not part of the deal. Fuck this shit

My daughter has been in school all year. About 70% choose in school option. About 1200 kids roughly. 0 in school transmission. 

I have not been in a classroom in a school all year. This week alone, three students' *entire families* have contracted the virus, big Hispanic families. Parents who had to work brought it home. But when I look at the state database of reported cases, guess how many new cases were listed for my city in the past week? ONE. The tracing, the reporting -- the numbers are all bullshit. Don't believe any of them.

I suspect a couple of things are going on in schools regarding transmission, in general.

1. School districts are lying about and covering up the number of cases, using HIPAA as their excuse. I know this is happening for sure in parts of my state (but not my district. My district has handled this whole situation tremendously well, thankfully).

2. School districts with large populations of low income students are seeing more outbreaks. My district will be over-run by this disease if we go back in. I don't know about your child's school, but based on your report of 0 cases, I wonder how lily-white affluent it is. Or who's lying.

Look, I was sharing my personal data. I’m sure it’s not the same everywhere. 

The school is more affluent but has a decent amount of diversity but it’s in regards to asian families.  

Masks and protocols work if people follow them. They are working all over the place. Masks work. Distance as you can works.

If people are bring it home from work they are having the proper protocols set in place. It works. We just have to stop being so fucking stupid, it’s nothing to do with “lily white”, it’s being smart. If everyone wore masks, distance as appropriate we’d be able to get our hands around this. But I’m pretty tired of people thinking safety protocols don’t work. It’s always like this, people don’t believe in safety protocols (either too much or too little). Everyone thinks they are the expert. Listen to the real experts. Covid is awful, it is killing people. It is killing people because others aren’t doing the basic things needed.

also it does not help when the president of the united states says in televised rallies that masks actually contribute to catching covid.

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

But haven't most people who don't have hands learn to use their feet like hands?

what dreams

cincybearcat said:

what dreams said:

cincybearcat said:

lastexitlondon said:

mcgruff10 said:

We just doubled our student population; I teach from a little corner of my classroom and don't move.  I feel like it is only a matter of time before an outbreak occurs.  In my school we have had teachers have legit panic attacks so severe that they were rushed to the hospital.   

Its just unfair on teachers to risk their  life thats  not part of the deal. Fuck this shit

My daughter has been in school all year. About 70% choose in school option. About 1200 kids roughly. 0 in school transmission. 

I have not been in a classroom in a school all year. This week alone, three students' *entire families* have contracted the virus, big Hispanic families. Parents who had to work brought it home. But when I look at the state database of reported cases, guess how many new cases were listed for my city in the past week? ONE. The tracing, the reporting -- the numbers are all bullshit. Don't believe any of them.

I suspect a couple of things are going on in schools regarding transmission, in general.

1. School districts are lying about and covering up the number of cases, using HIPAA as their excuse. I know this is happening for sure in parts of my state (but not my district. My district has handled this whole situation tremendously well, thankfully).

2. School districts with large populations of low income students are seeing more outbreaks. My district will be over-run by this disease if we go back in. I don't know about your child's school, but based on your report of 0 cases, I wonder how lily-white affluent it is. Or who's lying.

Look, I was sharing my personal data. I’m sure it’s not the same everywhere. 

The school is more affluent but has a decent amount of diversity but it’s in regards to asian families.  

Masks and protocols work if people follow them. They are working all over the place. Masks work. Distance as you can works.

If people are bring it home from work they are having the proper protocols set in place. It works. We just have to stop being so fucking stupid, it’s nothing to do with “lily white”, it’s being smart. If everyone wore masks, distance as appropriate we’d be able to get our hands around this. But I’m pretty tired of people thinking safety protocols don’t work. It’s always like this, people don’t believe in safety protocols (either too much or too little). Everyone thinks they are the expert. Listen to the real experts. Covid is awful, it is killing people. It is killing people because others aren’t doing the basic things needed.

Safety protocols work. I agree wholeheartedly. After posting last night, I started thinking how masking would work for my students. Everyone wants to debate whether a kid can keep a mask on all day. Nobody is talking about the *expense* of masking.

65% of the students in my school district are on free and reduced lunch. Families don't have the money to buy masks for multiple children to change everyday. Some of them wear the same clothes everyday, and a subset of those kids come to school with funky smelly clothes they don't wash. You think they're going to regularly wash a cloth mask?  A box of 50 disposable masks on Amazon goes for about $35.00. Who is buying the masks for these families??? 

There are cultural things white people of means just don't think about. That's all I'm saying. I know a nurse who happens to also be Hispanic. She said herself "My people just don't understand" and went on about how they haven't stopped having parties and kissing and hugging . . . and not to mention how the vast majority live in multigenerational homes, the ones really hard off have an entire family packed into single rented rooms.

Things are not the same everywhere. 

And the numbers aren't to be trusted. I'll stand by that until this is "over."

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Any studies on how many people are catching it from the air (like someone breathing out or sneezing) versus getting it on and then from your own hands?

how could they possibly know that, unless they studied two groups, one group with no hands and one group that wore gas masks 24/7?

But haven't most people who don't have hands learn to use their feet like hands?

that comment is handist. 

Spiritual_Chaos

This thread suddenly got a very mean tone.

josevolution

My daughter works at a day care here on Long Island her boss tested positive the county shut it down for two weeks, thankfully my daughter has tested negative! But this is not good to think we might be on our way to another wave I’m sick to my stomach at how inept we are for supposedly being the greatest country in the world, NOT! 

hedonist

I’m not sure I grasp the meaning there. 

On the other hand...

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1321948792531419136?s=20

what dreams

Yes, it makes me sick to my stomach too. We have a president who lied to us starting in January, a whole govt full of inept people who stood by and said nothing while he lied to us; a nation dull of governors who thought ABC stores and Chick-Fil-A drive-throughs were essential businesses; half the population of Americans flocking to garden centers and home improvement stores; construction crews continuing on with their development, because that was also essential. All this in March. Never mind the summer or now. March. We blew it. It's too late. The wreckage is done, it's every man/woman/they for themselves at this point. Good luck.

I've got my FMLA paperwork filed and approved if I need to use it. I'm not killing my mother by catching COVID at school if my district decides to open up. I don't think they will because they've been very, very smart so far about the whole thing, from announcing fall closure early in July so parents could plan, to training teachers for the whole month of August, providing every student with a computer and and free hot spots for those who need it. I'm so proud of my community and the way we're all just getting it done. There's no pathetic whining about kids' lives being doomed forever. Everyone is showing up and making the best of it, learning and growing and surviving and many of them thriving in this environment. I tell my students every day their future is as bright as it's always been, to ignore anyone who tells them that their lives are being wrecked by remote learning. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would put those ideas into a child's head.