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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    I'm optimistic that MB schools will reopen beginning of June. with the vaccinations being opened up to all adults, and 12 and over soon, and the current lockdown in place, should be good to go. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,400
    Have the welfare hating repubs chimed in on vaccine incentives yet? Why are we offering foreigners who can travel vaccines when our neighbors north and south of our border need them?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    OnWis97 said:
    NYC offers Mets and Yankees tix if you get vaxed!

    NYC is also offering the shot to travelers from abroad.
    The city is paying for baseball tickets?  That's gotta be brought up by Tucker, right? If that's not socialism, I don't know what is.
    The city is paying for ball tix and for travelers to come and get vaxed.  It's a huge promotion here in NY.
    So if I fly to New York I can get my 2nd Pfizer shot?  I want the Canada 🇨🇦/ US border open so I can just drive to zmichigan to get my 2nd shot…I want a 2 dose summer…
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,412
    mickeyrat said:

    ohio. 5 seperate draws for a million each for adults vaxxed by drawing time. 12 and up? 5 full ride scholarships to the in state school of choice(provided admission requirements are met)
    Good ideas.  I see more of this happening to get people vaxed.  I'm holding out for the Hawaii trip.

    I believe we can see by date our totals. Hope so anyway. Interested to see the number of those vaxxed with at least one shot between now and final drawings.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,400
    Which state or county will be the first to raffle an AR15? With a 30 round capacity drum?
    Magazine, not drum. bwahahaha.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
    that's not unique to Americans. Parisians, I've heard from people I know (my wife included), can be incredible snobby about anyone who attempts French. Even Canadian Francophones are laughed at over there. And I've also been told Quebec City can be like that towards Anglos. Montreal is awesome, however. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,602
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
    You're doing a great job acknowledging how ignorant Americans are while simultaneously being upset about someone pointing out how ignorant Americans are. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited May 2021
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
    You're doing a great job acknowledging how ignorant Americans are while simultaneously being upset about someone pointing out how ignorant Americans are. 
    It was specifically what I took as what they/we being called ignorant over. To be fair it could have easily been clarifies and wasnt, so that furthered my interpretation. I already said I was probably wrong and mistook the intent of the post, so hopefully we can move on. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,964

    A quote I have heard and agree with:


    “Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.”


    ― Robert A. Heinlein
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,412

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  • elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,436
    mickeyrat said:

    Now the real fun begins…..
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    requirement to wear masks during travel -- on buses, trains, planes and public transportation -- still stands
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
    I have a feeling I started this.
    I'll be more clear.....
    I know plenty of people with lots of disposable income who, for whatever reason, only travel to the same place or places year after year.

    I met someone the other day who has lived in Nebraska their whole life, almost 60 years and has never been to the Sand Hills. He travels to other cities and states on a regular basis but not his own state.

    It was not meant to shame those less traveled. Or those who can't afford to travel.
    More It was aimed at people not taking advantage while they can when they can.

    That being said, get vaccinated and be able to prove it when asked.  Simple.

  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,931
    That is a massive statement from the CDC.  Almost can’t believe it.  But yeah, the vaccines work.
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    That is a massive statement from the CDC.  Almost can’t believe it.  But yeah, the vaccines work.
    Agreed. We went from a headline of not wearing masks outdoors to indoors in what like a week? Huge jump and glad they are doing it. 
  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    edited May 2021
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    Post edited by gvn2fly1421 on
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    It's  far from the  end
     Just  because  rich countries  can pay their way out with vaccines.  India is a very real look at what happens in poor countries and densely populated countries   and will continue to be absolutely devastating 
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    OnWis97 said:
    NYC offers Mets and Yankees tix if you get vaxed!

    NYC is also offering the shot to travelers from abroad.
    The city is paying for baseball tickets?  That's gotta be brought up by Tucker, right? If that's not socialism, I don't know what is.
    The city is paying for ball tix and for travelers to come and get vaxed.  It's a huge promotion here in NY.
    So if I fly to New York I can get my 2nd Pfizer shot?  I want the Canada 🇨🇦/ US border open so I can just drive to zmichigan to get my 2nd shot…I want a 2 dose summer…
    No they are only giving out the J&J one under these conditions.  You'd have to find a place to get your 2nd shot.

    It is an option though.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    proof of vaccination is required for a variety of diseases the world over. given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant to know this.
    Traveling abroad is very expensive. Why does this make them ignorant? Just seems harsh to criticize someone so much and call them ignorant for not engaging in a luxury that most can't afford.  Traveling abroad in Europe is very different and much cheaper than what it costs Americans. 

    ignorant means lacking knowledge. its  not a pejorative.


    Merriam-Webster's definition of "ignorant":  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

    It has a negative connotation, and you know it does. You were insulting Americans for not being more traveled.
    I inferred he was insulting Americans for not being more educated about the rest of the world. 

    And he's right. Americans are incredibly ignorant. 
    Americans are ignorant in a lot of ways, that is true. But don't criticize someone because they are poor.
    "given the limited or no travel most americans engage in it makes sense they would be too fucking ignorant"
    That is criticizing people because they cant afford to travel to other counties. Say we should take more foreign language classes in school. Say we should be more cultured, I would agree. But to say given our limited travel we are "too fucking ignorant" that is criticizing people for not being able to afford a luxury that the average family can't afford. "Too fucking ignorant" is not just saying a lack of knowledge. IUts people people down. You know it. He knows it. 
    It's ok to admit Americans are too fucking ignorant about the rest of the world. It's also no surprise considering how ignorant we are about our own country's history. 

    No one's criticizing poor people.
    That's how I took it, the lack of traveling. If the criticism was our lack of knowledge in culture and not our ability to travel, then I was wrong and I would agree. And when we do travel, many expect every country to know our language and our customs. American's are probably embarrassing as tourists for the ones that do go.  We can all agree on that.
    You're doing a great job acknowledging how ignorant Americans are while simultaneously being upset about someone pointing out how ignorant Americans are. 
    I believe he is describing arrogance?
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,931
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
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  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    Unless I am missing something it only appears that I need to be vaxxed to be in the pit, not enjoy the show from seats.  I was in the pit in Seattle in 2018 and it sucked.  Seats on night 2 was much better.

    Now, if I had to be vaxxed to be in the venue........  Whew.........  Probably not, not at this point anyways.  Give me several years worth of data regarding the vaccines and my opinion may change.  Currently and for the foreseeable future, I am out.  No reason to.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,881
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    What are they going to do with those who create the very easy fake vaccination cards? It seems dumb to even try to enforce this. If they aren't spacing out seating and it's indoors, the risks aren't really any different. Seems like a lot of effort for little reason. Similar to how I feel about vaccine requirements for schools. You just need to have a notary public signed document stating you know the risks and aren't vaxxed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    Hell Yes. Fuck everyone else if they want to put themselves at risk. I wish every place/sports venue would do this as well. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,881
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    Hell Yes. Fuck everyone else if they want to put themselves at risk. I wish every place/sports venue would do this as well. 
    But what's the point? If you are at an indoor event and vaccinated, why does it matter if the person next to you isn't? I know businesses can operate how they want, but this seems like a stance that doesn't have a whole lot of purpose behind it besides appeasing the pro-vax crowd. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    Unless I am missing something it only appears that I need to be vaxxed to be in the pit, not enjoy the show from seats.  I was in the pit in Seattle in 2018 and it sucked.  Seats on night 2 was much better.

    Now, if I had to be vaxxed to be in the venue........  Whew.........  Probably not, not at this point anyways.  Give me several years worth of data regarding the vaccines and my opinion may change.  Currently and for the foreseeable future, I am out.  No reason to.

    mRNA vaccines have been in development since the 1990s

    300+ million people have been vaccinated

    efficacy is 70% - 90%  
    (compared with 40% - 60% for the annual flu vaccine)

    what data could you possibly be waiting for?! 
  • jpgoegeljpgoegel Posts: 414

    I'll be more clear.....
    I know plenty of people with lots of disposable income who, for whatever reason, only travel to the same place or places year after year.

    I met someone the other day who has lived in Nebraska their whole life, almost 60 years and has never been to the Sand Hills. He travels to other cities and states on a regular basis but not his own state.

    It was not meant to shame those less traveled. Or those who can't afford to travel.
    More It was aimed at people not taking advantage while they can when they can.

    That being said, get vaccinated and be able to prove it when asked.  Simple.

    I had this same sort of thought.  There always seems to be something shinier and more alluring in other places.  I always had the idea, it's here I'll get to it, but rarely did I.   During the pandemic year, my kids and I did a within state trip every week, to see all the oddities, historical sites (in MA, there are so many), hiked etc.....  It was great.  There is so much cool stuff around, everywhere.   Not that I don't want to travel abroad, but it's sparked that idea we've all probably once had to travel around the country and see everything.   Especially in the US where the landscape variations alone could take lifetimes to see.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited May 2021
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    What are they going to do with those who create the very easy fake vaccination cards? It seems dumb to even try to enforce this. If they aren't spacing out seating and it's indoors, the risks aren't really any different. Seems like a lot of effort for little reason. Similar to how I feel about vaccine requirements for schools. You just need to have a notary public signed document stating you know the risks and aren't vaxxed.
    I thought about the same thing. I just got a card with my first date written on it printed on card stock. No name, no ID information, nothing. I brought the same card back and they wrote my second date on it. Anyone with a scanner, printer and card stock could make one with minimal effort. If they wanted it for verification, they should have put a little more effort and thought into the card.
    I actually thought I lost my card when I went back for dose 2, the nurse just signed a sticky note saying I had 2 doses and told me to use that. When I found it, I just added the date myself to the card.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    tbergs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    To me, this signals the beginning of the end.  Unvaxxed folks haven't been wearing masks anyways, so no change there.  Sounds like we are getting to the point I would like to see.  If you want to wear a mask, wear one.  If not, don't.  

    Will be interested to see if Biden will go around without one now.  I mean, he shouldn't....  Right?!

    Assuming the passports become a big nothing burger, looks like the end folks.  And by passport, I meant traveling within the states.  I understand each country requires different things and that's fine, but I shouldn't have to prove I am vaxxed to go to Kentucky when I live a stone's throw from the state line.  Or I shouldn't have to provide one to board a plane when people have been boarding planes the whole pandemic!

    Assuming this is the end, it's been real, and it's been fun, it just hasn't been real fun...  Stay safe all and may God bless each of you!
    If Pearl Jam follows Dead and Co and does this, would you still not take the vaccine?

    “”*REQUIRED* I understand for all dates on Dead & Company’s 2021 Tour, proof of COVID-19 Vaccination will be required by the Event Organizer to gain entry to the GA Pit. Please keep this in mind before purchasing GA Pit tickets. If a GA Pit ticketholder does not have documentation, they will be provided an alternate viewing location. There are no exceptions to this policy.“”
    Hell Yes. Fuck everyone else if they want to put themselves at risk. I wish every place/sports venue would do this as well. 
    But what's the point? If you are at an indoor event and vaccinated, why does it matter if the person next to you isn't? I know businesses can operate how they want, but this seems like a stance that doesn't have a whole lot of purpose behind it besides appeasing the pro-vax crowd. 
    You didn't know?  He/She/They got the shot and wear the mask to not be selfish assholes but in the same breath "Fuck everyone else if they want to put themselves at risk.".
  • gvn2fly1421gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Judging by my time spent here, I would have to assume this is most of y'all?


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