A safe place for anxiety sufferers to share.

mickeyrat

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I don't know who I am :-(

what have you replaced painting with that brings comparable joy as descibed earlier?

I'd say picking up a brush again may help you find out who you are.

letters to a young poet by ranier maria rilke.  read it....

Nothing. Glued to my phone addicted to Facebook and Instagram.

I just read the Wikipedia on that book. It sounds very interesting. Anything in particular you want me to get out of the book?

not going to rob you of your experience with it. be open to it. find what you're meant to find. share when yoi do.

HughFreakingDillon

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I don't know who I am :-(

what have you replaced painting with that brings comparable joy as descibed earlier?

I'd say picking up a brush again may help you find out who you are.

letters to a young poet by ranier maria rilke.  read it....

Nothing. Glued to my phone addicted to Facebook and Instagram.

I just read the Wikipedia on that book. It sounds very interesting. Anything in particular you want me to get out of the book?

this is the thing that social media does to types like us. it draws us in, hoping to find something, anything, that we can relate to. at the same time as increasing our self-loathing because we believe all the fake "white picket fence" lives that people post about. IT'S ALL A LIE. if you post on social media the real stuff, people think you are craving attention. if you don't, which most don't, everyone is getting half, or less, of the actual picture of their lives. stop believing what you see on those platforms are even a fraction of what's going on in their lives. 

a few pictures of skiing on a mountain drinking wine in a hot tub is 0.000001% of someone's actual life. not everyone is an "influencer", and even those dudes are doing nothing but marketing themselves. do you believe all marketing? no. it's selling a product.

we all suffer, just to different degrees. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Yeah I understand Facebook is all the good stuff only. Facebook has made me very angry and hateful because of all the racism, homophobia and Islamophobia. I search for connection on there. I'm always posting or sharing something and I get zero comments or likes. Makes me feel like a loser. Either people have unfollowed me or just ignore.

HughFreakingDillon

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Yeah I understand Facebook is all the good stuff only. Facebook has made me very angry and hateful because of all the racism, homophobia and Islamophobia. I search for connection on there. I'm always posting or sharing something and I get zero comments or likes. Makes me feel like a loser. Either people have unfollowed me or just ignore.

so just get off of it. seriously, dude, it isn't helping your mindset. you need to start recognizing what is and what isn't working for you, and either keep those things around or jettison them. get off facebook and start painting, for one. 

do what you love, not what others tell you you should love.

mickeyrat

  https://psychcentral.com/lib/the-anxiety-of-facebook/

Thoughts_Arrive

I was thinking the other day about maybe just deleting the app from my phone and only checking my account when I am on my MacBook.

I'm constantly checking for updates and notifications on my phone.

The hard part is feeling disconnected without Facebook.

The other reason is that I share my artwork on Facebook groups for artists.

Thoughts_Arrive

mickeyrat said:

  https://psychcentral.com/lib/the-anxiety-of-facebook/

Some interesting findings especially the one where it makes you meeting people in real life more anxiety provoking

mickeyrat

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://psychcentral.com/lib/the-anxiety-of-facebook/

Some interesting findings especially the one where it makes you meeting people in real life more anxiety provoking

ran across a different article about a long term study done. cant seem to recall from where or what publication...

mickeyrat

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I was thinking the other day about maybe just deleting the app from my phone and only checking my account when I am on my MacBook.

I'm constantly checking for updates and notifications on my phone.

The hard part is feeling disconnected without Facebook.

The other reason is that I share my artwork on Facebook groups for artists.

and you still can by being more deliberate about your usage. I use mobile browser on firefox.

Matts3221

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I don't know who I am :-(

what have you replaced painting with that brings comparable joy as descibed earlier?

I'd say picking up a brush again may help you find out who you are.

letters to a young poet by ranier maria rilke.  read it....

Nothing. Glued to my phone addicted to Facebook and Instagram.

I just read the Wikipedia on that book. It sounds very interesting. Anything in particular you want me to get out of the book?

this is the thing that social media does to types like us. it draws us in, hoping to find something, anything, that we can relate to. at the same time as increasing our self-loathing because we believe all the fake "white picket fence" lives that people post about. IT'S ALL A LIE. if you post on social media the real stuff, people think you are craving attention. if you don't, which most don't, everyone is getting half, or less, of the actual picture of their lives. stop believing what you see on those platforms are even a fraction of what's going on in their lives. 

a few pictures of skiing on a mountain drinking wine in a hot tub is 0.000001% of someone's actual life. not everyone is an "influencer", and even those dudes are doing nothing but marketing themselves. do you believe all marketing? no. it's selling a product.

we all suffer, just to different degrees. 

100%

Although I don't use Facebook , I do use Instagram but follow less than 100 people ( 80 of them family / close friends / college friends ect ) the other 20 being bands or others that I just want to keep up with.

However its all a lie , that one second photo does in encapsulate the rest of their day. It is truly toxic for the brain and if you suffer from anxiety or depression you can feel like shit , get that feeling of " why is that not my life "

One of my very good friends is in an awful marriage they have been unhappy for years  ( I know because well I talk to him twice a week ) however if you looked thru his wife's IG account you would think that they are in the happiest marriage of all time.

Social Media is all smoke and mirrors.

I think over the next 10-15 years we will see the very ill effects it has on the youth.

Thoughts_Arrive

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I was thinking the other day about maybe just deleting the app from my phone and only checking my account when I am on my MacBook.

I'm constantly checking for updates and notifications on my phone.

The hard part is feeling disconnected without Facebook.

The other reason is that I share my artwork on Facebook groups for artists.

and you still can by being more deliberate about your usage. I use mobile browser on firefox.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean?

mickeyrat

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I was thinking the other day about maybe just deleting the app from my phone and only checking my account when I am on my MacBook.

I'm constantly checking for updates and notifications on my phone.

The hard part is feeling disconnected without Facebook.

The other reason is that I share my artwork on Facebook groups for artists.

and you still can by being more deliberate about your usage. I use mobile browser on firefox.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean?

more selective in when and how you use the platform to share your work. deleting the app is a good start.

Thoughts_Arrive

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

mickeyrat said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I was thinking the other day about maybe just deleting the app from my phone and only checking my account when I am on my MacBook.

I'm constantly checking for updates and notifications on my phone.

The hard part is feeling disconnected without Facebook.

The other reason is that I share my artwork on Facebook groups for artists.

and you still can by being more deliberate about your usage. I use mobile browser on firefox.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean?

more selective in when and how you use the platform to share your work. deleting the app is a good start.

Thought that's what you meant. Thanks.

njnancy

Rob, @lastexitlondon

I think that going into a hospital for treatment would be exactly what you need . You are not letting your kids down. You are going to get help for an illness, if you were having constant heart problems,  you wouldn't think twice about getting into a hospital. When anxiety & depression are major & not just situational  you need to take it as seriously as any other disease.

I've been in psych wards & the feeling of relief once you are settled in &know you will get help without the noise of everything else is incredibly freeing. But you still need to work to be diagnosed & find what works with you .

Tell them about your substance use so they can treat  any negative effects the first couple of days. That's important, they need to see you free of any thing you use to alleviate the intense pain. It sounds like you may be having a nervous breakdown,  or what they call a major depressive disorder now. Either way, when you can no longer cope it's time to reach out. You are teaching your kids that there is no shame in getting help. They can learn that disorders of the brain are no worse than other illnesses. And if it happens to them some day, they can look at your strength as an example.

I so hope you are in the hospital or getting ready to go. You are worthy of happiness and reaching out here shows you  really want to be better and not to harm yourself.

I've been where you are & I know the confusion,  but it saved my life.



I may be going into the hospital to deal with my trauma $ PTSD. I'm not getting better & it's time to think of me & my future. I have no support & I have no ability to cope with my situation.  I can't help others when I'm a mess. I keep feeling the hurt & betrayal & I need to help myself.  It's not weak, its brave. Just need to find the energy to find a place 

I told you I would believe in you until you believed in yourself & that is a promise I will never break. I really hope you have made good decisions,  just do it , please .❤

Thoughts_Arrive

Well said Nancy.

I wish you well.

F Me In The Brain

@njnancy for president

Fifthelement

Beautifully stated Nancy.  I hope both you and Rob are able to get the help you need.  I agree 10000000000000000 %, seeking help whether through therapy, medication or hospitalisation is a sign of strength, not weakness.  It takes everything you’ve got to reach down and pick yourself up enough to seek treatment.  Sending each of you a bit of my strength, I hope it helps that I’m sat here, in another country, wishing you healing.  You deserve it!

rgambs

Zither strength to you all!
I'm kicking anxiety's ass, toe to toe, but depression is trying to jump me from behind.

Fifthelement

rgambs said:

Zither strength to you all!
I'm kicking anxiety's ass, toe to toe, but depression is trying to jump me from behind.

Zither strength indeed!🤗💓

Thoughts_Arrive

So, I have an appointment today with a psychologist