London show selling terribly?

Gern Blansten · June 2024

Selling terribly? Or just not filling up the place?

100 Pacer · June 2024

Toying with the idea of London last minute. The kids leave for camp the morning of the 28th so would have to fly out immediately afterwards to arrive early on the 29th. How would I best get from London centre to the venue and back?

Philip_Ireland · June 2024

Gern Blansten said:

Selling terribly? Or just not filling up the place?

Both- did you not see this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pearljam/comments/1defeng/2_weeks_out_has_a_pj_london_show_ever_sold_this/

lastexitlondon · June 2024

100 Pacer said:

Toying with the idea of London last minute. The kids leave for camp the morning of the 28th so would have to fly out immediately afterwards to arrive early on the 29th. How would I best get from London centre to the venue and back?

Which airport

lastexitlondon · June 2024

Centre of London on a train very easily

100 Pacer · June 2024

lastexitlondon said:

100 Pacer said:

Toying with the idea of London last minute. The kids leave for camp the morning of the 28th so would have to fly out immediately afterwards to arrive early on the 29th. How would I best get from London centre to the venue and back?

Which airport

Heathrow I imagine as I’m married to Air Canada’s loyalty program and that’s the only option when booking with points.

pdalowsky · June 2024

BlueLedbetter said:

pdalowsky said:

If they switched the show to the 02 at this point how would that work logistically? Is that even feasible at this point?

Surely they have sold more than the O2 capacity?

22-23000? i'm not sure on the current graphics....

pdalowsky · June 2024

100 Pacer said:

lastexitlondon said:

100 Pacer said:

Toying with the idea of London last minute. The kids leave for camp the morning of the 28th so would have to fly out immediately afterwards to arrive early on the 29th. How would I best get from London centre to the venue and back?

Which airport

Heathrow I imagine as I’m married to Air Canada’s loyalty program and that’s the only option when booking with points.

Now this sounds like a plan.

Heathrow is definitely the most convenient in terms of location.

pdalowsky · June 2024

100 Pacer said:

lastexitlondon said:

100 Pacer said:

Toying with the idea of London last minute. The kids leave for camp the morning of the 28th so would have to fly out immediately afterwards to arrive early on the 29th. How would I best get from London centre to the venue and back?

Which airport

Heathrow I imagine as I’m married to Air Canada’s loyalty program and that’s the only option when booking with points.

Now let me know if you need any help finding a ticket LOL

Zen23 · June 2024

pdalowsky said:

BlueLedbetter said:

pdalowsky said:

If they switched the show to the 02 at this point how would that work logistically? Is that even feasible at this point?

Surely they have sold more than the O2 capacity?

22-23000? i'm not sure on the current graphics....

I'm not so sure about that either. Especially as we don't know how many tickets are still available in the front and rear standing area. My gut feeling tells me that possibly all ticket holders would still fit into the O2 Arena.

beano.79 · June 2024

Zen23 said:

pdalowsky said:

BlueLedbetter said:

pdalowsky said:

If they switched the show to the 02 at this point how would that work logistically? Is that even feasible at this point?

Surely they have sold more than the O2 capacity?

22-23000? i'm not sure on the current graphics....

I'm not so sure about that either. Especially as we don't know how many tickets are still available in the front and rear standing area. My gut feeling tells me that possibly all ticket holders would still fit into the O2 Arena.

But people who have chosen to stand would not all get standing tickets at the 02.

It's a looong way from a sell out but the capacity for a concert there is 50,000 as the whole of one end isnt used. So even if it's only half sold a concert for 25,000 fans is still very much worth doing, and I'd guess it's more than half sold

Spiritual_Chaos · June 2024

Taylor Swift sold 60.000 tickets to Friends Arena in Sthlm.
Pearl jam sold 23.000 tickets at the same arena.

Can’t they just move the stage closer and make the room smaller? Like for PJ at Friends.

Maybe to much of a hassle moving peoples seat
locations around

Haijay · June 2024

beano.79 said:

Zen23 said:

pdalowsky said:

BlueLedbetter said:

pdalowsky said:

If they switched the show to the 02 at this point how would that work logistically? Is that even feasible at this point?

Surely they have sold more than the O2 capacity?

22-23000? i'm not sure on the current graphics....

I'm not so sure about that either. Especially as we don't know how many tickets are still available in the front and rear standing area. My gut feeling tells me that possibly all ticket holders would still fit into the O2 Arena.

But people who have chosen to stand would not all get standing tickets at the 02.

It's a looong way from a sell out but the capacity for a concert there is 50,000 as the whole of one end isnt used. So even if it's only half sold a concert for 25,000 fans is still very much worth doing, and I'd guess it's more than half sold

RHCP drew around 43,000 and it was close to a sellout. You could see some rows of empty seats on youtube, but it was close

Philip_Ireland · June 2024

sdharv1919 said:

Philip_Ireland said:

drfox said:

Philip_Ireland said:

beano.79 said:

drfox said:

It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts

All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices

Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album

Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.

Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/05/13/pearl-jams-new-album-is-tumbling-down-the-charts/

Original post updated for charts for week ending June 15, 2024.

"Wreckage" climbs to No. 9 at alternative radio, No. 8 at mainstream rock and No. 6 at Triple-A. It also moves up from No. 36 to No. 28 on the Canada Rock chart.

Dark Matter hangs on in the top 50 of Top Current Album Sales for a seventh week, selling between 1,700 and 1,800 copies.

That ‘Wreckage’ song title speaks for itself. They have a few of those songs on every album, please- do something a little/ lot more interesting than this standard ballad fluff! Nobody wants to hear this on an album!!!!

matt84 · June 2024

Philip_Ireland said:

sdharv1919 said:

Philip_Ireland said:

drfox said:

Philip_Ireland said:

beano.79 said:

drfox said:

It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts

All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices

Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album

Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.

Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/05/13/pearl-jams-new-album-is-tumbling-down-the-charts/

Original post updated for charts for week ending June 15, 2024.

"Wreckage" climbs to No. 9 at alternative radio, No. 8 at mainstream rock and No. 6 at Triple-A. It also moves up from No. 36 to No. 28 on the Canada Rock chart.

Dark Matter hangs on in the top 50 of Top Current Album Sales for a seventh week, selling between 1,700 and 1,800 copies.

That ‘Wreckage’ song title speaks for itself. They have a few of those songs on every album, please- do something a little/ lot more interesting than this standard ballad fluff! Nobody wants to hear this on an album!!!!

Kind of disagree. Although ‘Wreckage’ isn’t a great song - ‘Sirens’ and ‘Just Breath’ are fantastic.

BrainofBGA · June 2024

Pearl Jam’s Australian tour has sold well, however I’m not sure of the exact figures, but there was great hype and buzz when tix first went on sale, and extra shows were added. Partly due to the fact they haven’t been here for 10years.

They’ve been to Europe plenty of times over the last 10 years in comparison. Maybe add in some over saturation of the European market to high tkt costs as a reason for lower sales. If casual fans have seen them in the last few years then they’ll baulk at those prices. I’m sure some casual here in Australia paid up because it’s been 10 years since we’ve seen them. And they may never come again. !?

Philip_Ireland · June 2024

BrainofBGA said:

Pearl Jam’s Australian tour has sold well, however I’m not sure of the exact figures, but there was great hype and buzz when tix first went on sale, and extra shows were added. Partly due to the fact they haven’t been here for 10years.

They’ve been to Europe plenty of times over the last 10 years in comparison. Maybe add in some over saturation of the European market to high tkt costs as a reason for lower sales. If casual fans have seen them in the last few years then they’ll baulk at those prices. I’m sure some casual here in Australia paid up because it’s been 10 years since we’ve seen them. And they may never come again. !?

What?? They havnt played in Ireland in 14 years and people are still baulking at the prices! Europe plenty of times? Select places. They are a band that is big in the US that can play big venues in the US but have faltered in trying to play big venues outside the US and are charging US ticket prices on this tour and the tickets have not sold!

bicyclejoe · June 2024

drfox said:

It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts

It’s the ticket prices. At least it is for me.

BrainofBGA · June 2024

Philip_Ireland said:

BrainofBGA said:

Pearl Jam’s Australian tour has sold well, however I’m not sure of the exact figures, but there was great hype and buzz when tix first went on sale, and extra shows were added. Partly due to the fact they haven’t been here for 10years.

They’ve been to Europe plenty of times over the last 10 years in comparison. Maybe add in some over saturation of the European market to high tkt costs as a reason for lower sales. If casual fans have seen them in the last few years then they’ll baulk at those prices. I’m sure some casual here in Australia paid up because it’s been 10 years since we’ve seen them. And they may never come again. !?

What?? They havnt played in Ireland in 14 years and people are still baulking at the prices! Europe plenty of times? Select places. They are a band that is big in the US that can play big venues in the US but have faltered in trying to play big venues outside the US and are charging US ticket prices on this tour and the tickets have not sold!

Pearl Jam have been to ‘Europe’ in 2024, 2022, 2018, 2014. Thats four times over a 10 year period. For this band that’s plenty, considering their touring and album schedule. I’m just saying that if casual fans had been to see them recently then maybe that’s one reason why they aren’t going this time along with increased tkt pricing. And to be fair, Ireland is a lot closer to those Euro countries than Australia is, so the Irish have still had good opportunities to go see them if they really want to as it’s a short flight and less expensive than me flying from Aus to say the states or euro.

Ryan · June 2024

Philip_Ireland said:

sdharv1919 said:

Philip_Ireland said:

drfox said:

Philip_Ireland said:

beano.79 said:

drfox said:

It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts

All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices

Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album

Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.

Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/05/13/pearl-jams-new-album-is-tumbling-down-the-charts/

Original post updated for charts for week ending June 15, 2024.

"Wreckage" climbs to No. 9 at alternative radio, No. 8 at mainstream rock and No. 6 at Triple-A. It also moves up from No. 36 to No. 28 on the Canada Rock chart.

Dark Matter hangs on in the top 50 of Top Current Album Sales for a seventh week, selling between 1,700 and 1,800 copies.

That ‘Wreckage’ song title speaks for itself. They have a few of those songs on every album, please- do something a little/ lot more interesting than this standard ballad fluff! Nobody wants to hear this on an album!!!!

If you don’t like the new record, and the price of tickets is too high, then why bother going to the show?
And if you’re experience a, “cost of living crisis” maybe skip the shows, stop complaining in multiple threads and use the time/resources to look for a part-time job?

Regarding the Europe ticket sales, I’ve seen it mentioned once or twice but I don’t think it can be understated that way fewer North Americans are travelling to UK/EU shows this year. With how many shows there are on “home soil” for us, I can do like 4-6 shows for the same cost Berlin would have been. Berlin flights are close to $2000 return, while I paid about $380 return for both Seattle and LA, and $270 for Vancouver. My flights + hotels for those three cities were probably less than just the Berlin flight would be.

On the other hand, if there are zero or limited North American shows, like in 2018, I’d 100% had picked a city getting two shows in Europe.

Finally, some of the usual popular places to visit got skipped (Italy, Amsterdam) and nothing that is a bit “different” to visit like Budapest or Krakow this time around.

London show selling terribly?

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