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  • Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
    The smell of Trump's ass never goes away.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,892
    dignin said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
    The smell of Trump's ass never goes away.
    :lol:

    Rim Paul?

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
    Absolutely a cloth mask is better than no mask.     As I have said before, i don’t want the government to say that a mask is not necessary because they failed to plan for an epidemic and there aren’t enough masks.  Tell me how to best protect myself. Companies would have ramped up production on N95 versus cloth masks.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
    Absolutely a cloth mask is better than no mask.     As I have said before, i don’t want the government to say that a mask is not necessary because they failed to plan for an epidemic and there aren’t enough masks.  Tell me how to best protect myself. Companies would have ramped up production on N95 versus cloth masks.
    Yeah I don't think that's true.  Cloth masks were made by clothing companies to capitalize on a quick opportunity.  KN95 are PPEs and one would expect those were made by medical supply companies.  People chose to use cloth.  In my house, there were all three types (surgical, KN95 and cloth).  Everyone seemed to grab the cloth because they never broke and they were 'prettier'.  But we all knew 95's were the best. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    brianlux said:
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    The only problem with that is that the medical leaders said masks weren’t necessary when they knew they were.
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited January 2022
    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


    Post edited by Spunkie on
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    tish said:
    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


    Perhaps, but I think we should know the truth from the start.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    brianlux said:
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    The only problem with that is that the medical leaders said masks weren’t necessary when they knew they were.

    There is much more to the field of medicine than its "leaders".   Think "Peter Principle".
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    I don't know what the Peter Principle is but I'll look it up.

    The kids are back in school -week 2 in my community. Eight kids showed up yesterday in my daughter's class.

    I'm off to get a covid test this evening.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Hmmm. That seems similar to failing upwards in Hollywood.  =)
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    tish said:
    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


    I disagree. They lied and it messed up their credibility from the start. It was a terrible decision.
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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    I suppose you're right. One of the things BC did was give us the facts we did a lot of complying.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    And it helped that the presentation was done calmly, in a soothing voice, especially by someone who knew what they're talkin about.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    tish said:
    I don't know what the Peter Principle is but I'll look it up.

    The kids are back in school -week 2 in my community. Eight kids showed up yesterday in my daughter's class.

    I'm off to get a covid test this evening.

    Sorry, I should not assume the Peter Principle concept is widely known.  It's based on a book by Lawrence J. Peter who developed the theory that in business and other hierarchies, people to to rise to a level of respective incompetence.  No  doubt there are other factors that are more politically involved ("politician in the more broad sense of power struggle, influence, monetary advantage). 
    My basic point (probably not well made in my current state of lack of rest, state of mind, lol), is that we tend to zero in on the most highly visible personalities.  Like, let's say Dr Fauci. Surely he has good, broad medical knowledge.  But he is fallible, and he is only one person.  I think it would be a mistake to assume this one person had all the answers or all the right answers.  SO if we only look to these most visible sources of information, we are probably getting subjected to a more narrow bias, especially if we go to places like Facebook for answers.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
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  • nicknyr15
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    tish said:
    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


    I disagree. They lied and it messed up their credibility from the start. It was a terrible decision.
    Bingo 
  • Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
    They have N95 versions of underwear?
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited January 2022
    mickeyrat said:
    Also this site if interested:  https://www.covidtests.gov/

    Edit: oops, I didn't realize it all went to the USPS site.