TBH I've been both impressed with and upset with Biden's handling of this pandemic. Not as bad as trump for sure...but Biden through his entire game plan into Vaccines..... not a great idea. Was a good push but shoulda had other plans. I do support his push to use OSHA to have companies require vaccines....that was a good and smart move in my opinion. Unfortunately the SCOTUS messed that up. That would have been a big win.
Despite bitching about testing from the early days, Biden waits until what is likely the end of the 2nd major variants move through the country to figure out how to make tests readily available.
And allowing 400 million of the country's stockpile of N95's be available is just for show. That's literally about 1 mask per person...lasts about 5 days. And will be available after the latest surge. That is purely a political move. I bought a box of 3M N95's off amazon very easily for like $20.
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Two things: She didn't offer to be on the same page. The emails explicitly state that she could not support the bullshit that the administration was spewing and would rather have the option to just not be present when it's happening.
And what about her work since the 1980s to fight infectious diseases, including AIDS?
Seems like some sexism is at play here.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that -- certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it -- for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation -- but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the truth.
That willful ignorance is not a good look.
I still think he's better than nothing.
where did I say she offered to be on the same page?
Fauci contradicted tRump consistently.
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Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
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1 year removed and everything with you is still buh buh trump and what about trump. Boring.
Its boring when you won't answer a pretty direct question, my one year removed buh, buh, buh POOTWH notwithstanding.
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Two things: She didn't offer to be on the same page. The emails explicitly state that she could not support the bullshit that the administration was spewing and would rather have the option to just not be present when it's happening.
And what about her work since the 1980s to fight infectious diseases, including AIDS?
Seems like some sexism is at play here.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that—certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has—and they’ve known it for centuries. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it—for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation (see: every medical professional has known for centuries that wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory illnesses)—but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the facts because of the evolving nature of the disease and science, etc.
Face masks for use in surgery were developed in Europe by several physicians, including Jan Mikulicz-Radecki at the University of Breslau and Paul Berger in Paris, in the late nineteenth century, as a result of increasing awareness of germ theory and the importance of antiseptic procedures in medicine.[40] In response to a pneumonic plague in Manchuria and Mongolia in 1910, Chinese-Malaysian epidemiologist Dr. Wu Lien-teh greatly improved on the designs he had seen in Europe to develop a face mask of layers of gauze and cotton that would protect both the wearer and others.
Modern surgical masks began to be used in the 1960s. Their adoption caused cloth facemasks, which had been used since the late 19th century, to completely fall out of use in the developed world.[41][42] However, cloth masks and surgical masks both continued to be used in developing countries.[43]
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From the NYT email blast. And yet, who are the vast majority of deaths and who are clogging up and overwhelming our hospital systems?
2. Low risks
Some of the clearest research on Covid’s risks comes from a team of British researchers led by Dr. Julia Hippisley-Cox of the University of Oxford. The team has created an online calculator that allows you to enter a person’s age, vaccination status, height and weight, as well as major Covid risk factors. (It’s based on an analysis of British patients, but its conclusions are relevant elsewhere.)
A typical 65-year-old American woman — to take one example — is five foot three inches tall and weighs 166 pounds. If she had been vaccinated and did not have a major Covid risk factor, like an organ transplant, her chance of dying after contracting Covid would be 1 in 872, according to the calculator. For a typical 65-year-old man, the risk would be 1 in 434.
Among 75-year-olds, the risk would be 1 in 264 for a typical woman and 1 in 133 for a typical man.
Those are meaningful risks. But they are not larger than many other risks older people face. In the 2019-20 flu season, about 1 out of every 138 Americans 65 and older who had flu symptoms died from them, according to the C.D.C.
And Omicron probably presents less risk than the British calculator suggests, because it uses data through the first half of 2021, when the dominant version of Covid was more severe than Omicron appears to be. One sign of Omicron’s relative mildness: Among vaccinated people in Utah (a state that publishes detailed data), the percentage of cases leading to hospitalization has been only about half as high in recent weeks as it was last summer.
For now, the available evidence suggests that Omicron is less threatening to a vaccinated person than a normal flu. Obviously, the Omicron wave has still been damaging, because the variant is so contagious that it has infected tens of millions of Americans in a matter of weeks. Small individual risks have added up to large societal damage.
3. Effective boosters
The final major piece of encouraging news involves booster shots: They are highly effective at preventing severe illness from Omicron. The protection is “remarkably high,” as Dr. Eric Topol of Scripps Research wrote.
Switzerland has begun reporting Covid deaths among three different groups of people: the unvaccinated; the vaccinated who have not received a booster shot; and the vaccinated who have been boosted (typically with a third shot). The first two shots still provide a lot of protection, but the booster makes a meaningful difference, as Edouard Mathieu and Max Roser of Our World in Data have noted:
Source: Our World in Data
The next stage
The Covid situation in the U.S. remains fairly grim, with overwhelmed hospitals and nearly 2,000 deaths a day. It’s likely to remain grim into early February. Caseloads are still high in many communities, and death trends typically lag case trends by three weeks.
But the full picture is less grim than the current moment.
Omicron appears to be in retreat, even if the official national data doesn’t yet reflect that reality. Omicron also appears to be mild in a vast majority of cases, especially for the vaccinated. This combination means that the U.S. may be only a few weeks away from the most encouraging Covid situation since early last summer, before the Delta variant emerged.
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Two things: She didn't offer to be on the same page. The emails explicitly state that she could not support the bullshit that the administration was spewing and would rather have the option to just not be present when it's happening.
And what about her work since the 1980s to fight infectious diseases, including AIDS?
Seems like some sexism is at play here.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that -- certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it -- for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation -- but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the truth.
That willful ignorance is not a good look.
I still think he's better than nothing.
where did I say she offered to be on the same page?
Fauci contradicted tRump consistently.
You didn’t; gimme did.
Except when it came to masking early on, right? And Fauci also has the advantage of having a Y chromosome.
I just see sexism all around when it comes to Birx. From the administrations (plural!) she’s worked for and the public.
Fauci lied to us. Yeah, but look at what he’s done and continues to do for the good of humanity.
Birx refused to lie to us. Yeah, but…. Never mind: BURN HER AT THE FUCKING STAKE!!
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Two things: She didn't offer to be on the same page. The emails explicitly state that she could not support the bullshit that the administration was spewing and would rather have the option to just not be present when it's happening.
And what about her work since the 1980s to fight infectious diseases, including AIDS?
Seems like some sexism is at play here.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that—certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has—and they’ve known it for centuries. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it—for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation (see: every medical professional has known for centuries that wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory illnesses)—but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the facts because of the evolving nature of the disease and science, etc.
Face masks for use in surgery were developed in Europe by several physicians, including Jan Mikulicz-Radecki at the University of Breslau and Paul Berger in Paris, in the late nineteenth century, as a result of increasing awareness of germ theory and the importance of antiseptic procedures in medicine.[40] In response to a pneumonic plague in Manchuria and Mongolia in 1910, Chinese-Malaysian epidemiologist Dr. Wu Lien-teh greatly improved on the designs he had seen in Europe to develop a face mask of layers of gauze and cotton that would protect both the wearer and others.
Modern surgical masks began to be used in the 1960s. Their adoption caused cloth facemasks, which had been used since the late 19th century, to completely fall out of use in the developed world.[41][42] However, cloth masks and surgical masks both continued to be used in developing countries.[43]
This escalated quick, went from taxing to jailing the unvaccinated…next week, maybe tar and feather, or a UV tattooed on them…
Fuckin ridiculous
That Canadians have opinions?
Are you for real? Sometimes i feel like you can’t be real. Do you really think that’s what I meant?
I have no idea what you meant as you never really explain yourself. See the Biden thread for example. Why did you post that if its not your opinion? What are your thoughts on it? Agree/disagree/to some or all? What's fucking ridiculous? That 1 in 4 Canadians think the unvaccinated should be jailed? The concept of jailing the unvaccinated? Or that Canadians have opinions? I won't expect an answer. And feel free to put me on ignore, its cool.
This escalated quick, went from taxing to jailing the unvaccinated…next week, maybe tar and feather, or a UV tattooed on them…
Fuckin ridiculous
That Canadians have opinions?
Are you for real? Sometimes i feel like you can’t be real. Do you really think that’s what I meant?
I have no idea what you meant as you never really explain yourself. See the Biden thread for example. Why did you post that if its not your opinion? What are your thoughts on it? Agree/disagree/to some or all? What's fucking ridiculous? That 1 in 4 Canadians think the unvaccinated should be jailed? The concept of jailing the unvaccinated? Or that Canadians have opinions? I won't expect an answer. And feel free to put me on ignore, its cool.
It’s ridiculous that 1 in 4 people want to jail the unvaccinated. Yes. That’s my opinion.
The Biden piece? I agree with some, especially the Covid stuff. Disagree with others, like the Afghanistan stuff.
This escalated quick, went from taxing to jailing the unvaccinated…next week, maybe tar and feather, or a UV tattooed on them…
Fuckin ridiculous
That Canadians have opinions?
Are you for real? Sometimes i feel like you can’t be real. Do you really think that’s what I meant?
I have no idea what you meant as you never really explain yourself. See the Biden thread for example. Why did you post that if its not your opinion? What are your thoughts on it? Agree/disagree/to some or all? What's fucking ridiculous? That 1 in 4 Canadians think the unvaccinated should be jailed? The concept of jailing the unvaccinated? Or that Canadians have opinions? I won't expect an answer. And feel free to put me on ignore, its cool.
It’s ridiculous that 1 in 4 people want to jail the unvaccinated. Yes. That’s my opinion.
I agree but I also don't think they should have free reign to go about their daily lives, getting sick and overwhelming our health care systems.
saying the criticism towards birx is sexism is laughable. has her family been getting death threats? has she been subject to never ending harassment by republican in congress? as gern just showed, she went on national tv and took a bullet for trump. as far as I recall, fauci never did anything of the sort. chromosomes have zero to do with this.
This escalated quick, went from taxing to jailing the unvaccinated…next week, maybe tar and feather, or a UV tattooed on them…
Fuckin ridiculous
That Canadians have opinions?
Are you for real? Sometimes i feel like you can’t be real. Do you really think that’s what I meant?
I have no idea what you meant as you never really explain yourself. See the Biden thread for example. Why did you post that if its not your opinion? What are your thoughts on it? Agree/disagree/to some or all? What's fucking ridiculous? That 1 in 4 Canadians think the unvaccinated should be jailed? The concept of jailing the unvaccinated? Or that Canadians have opinions? I won't expect an answer. And feel free to put me on ignore, its cool.
It’s ridiculous that 1 in 4 people want to jail the unvaccinated. Yes. That’s my opinion.
The Biden piece? I agree with some, especially the Covid stuff. Disagree with others, like the Afghanistan stuff.
Did you read the article for more context or just respond to the headline? The actual poll question relates to potential charges for those who refused mandatory vaccination if there was a vaccine mandate, which is a different issue than just "the unvaccinated" currently.
(sorry for the funky font size - that's how it copied)
Many Canadians are in favour of harsh punishments for the unvaccinated, with 37 per cent saying in a new poll it would be acceptable to deny them publicly-funded health care — and 27 per cent that it would be OK to go as far as a short jail sentence.
“A majority of Canadians have little sympathy for the unvaccinated,” said John Wright, executive vice-president of Maru Public Opinion, which conducted the poll on Jan. 14 and 15. Maru surveyed an online panel of 1,506 Canadians. A comparable probability sample of the same size has a margin of error of +/- 2.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
It found two-thirds of Canadians are in favour of mandatory vaccines for everyone over the age of five. Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said earlier this month that mandatory vaccinations are on the horizon, and something that provincial governments should be discussing.
The poll also asked about various punitive measures for those who would refuse a mandatory vaccination. Thirty-three per cent of the survey respondents said it would be acceptable to not allow them to renew their drivers’ licence.
Another 37 per cent said it would be ok to refuse to “allow them access to any publicly funded hospital/medical services.” More than a quarter, 27 per cent, said it would be acceptable to make them serve up to five days “as part of a jail sentence for endangering others/overwhelming (the) healthcare system.”
And further down the article: Sixty-one per cent of the respondents said it would be ok to make the unvaccinated pay “a monetary healthcare surcharge on their taxes of up to $150 per month.” That’s the same percentage that said it would be ok to make such individuals “pay out of pocket for the full medical cost” if they are admitted to hospital or the ICU with COVID-19.
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that—certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has—and they’ve known it for centuries. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it—for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation (see: every medical professional has known for centuries that wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory illnesses)—but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the facts because of the evolving nature of the disease and science, etc.
Absolute spot on post as it relates to this topic.
saying the criticism towards birx is sexism is laughable. has her family been getting death threats? has she been subject to never ending harassment by republican in congress? as gern just showed, she went on national tv and took a bullet for trump. as far as I recall, fauci never did anything of the sort. chromosomes have zero to do with this.
You're welcome for the laugh.
According to Birx, "all the doctors received death threats." (And remember she's the one who didn't tell an outright lie to the American people.)
Yes, she took a bullet on a Christian network (?) in MARCH 2020 that apparently Gern watched live. Praise the Lord!
But I'll remind you that in March 2020, everyone on the task force, including Fauci, was taking bullets for the Trump administration so that they could do their jobs.
Fauci certainly contradicted Trump as time went on. And Birx went deer in headlights or simply just went.
If you don't think that standing up to a man like Donald J. Trump for the greater good is more difficult for a woman than a man, then, well, that's pretty neat.
I'm not here to vilify Fauci or praise Birx. They are both experts in their field. They are both fallible. I wish that they were still both working together because two heads are better than one. Of course, then Birx would start getting death threats and GOP harassment again. Perhaps it's better for her to just be the scapegoat. Better for our country if she rejoined the fight, though.
Of course now we’re blaming Trump for Fauci lying. Of course. It must be Trumps fault.
Do you know for a fact that Dr. Ouchie was lying at the time with what he and others understood of the virus and how it spread (in other words, had the research shown that face diapers would be effective against the spread of this particular virus, he was told such, maybe repeatedly and he chose to lie about it, or he couldn't honestly say that face diapers would have an impact, or, he stayed on message with POOTWH, his corrupt cabinet and all the other operatives that made it a political statement), as opposed to how its confirmed that POOTWH was lying every day when he put himself before the cameras and mics?
Where should the buck stop?
2 years and still going with a raging pandemic and Dr. Ouchie owns the cons.
birx offered to be on the same page as trump though. her emails became public after trump left office. she betrayed her duties as a physician by doing that. she was going to go along with whatever narrative the administration wanted to put forth rather than advise the president to the best of her abilities. thank god fauci did not do that or we would be where we were in mid 2020.
I lost all respect for Birx when she made the faces and squirmed after POOTWH looked at her and suggested that we shine a light up our ass or ingest disinfectants and didn't resign. And POOTWH said those things knowing how infectious and deadly covid was, what potential prevention/treatment methods were and for the sole purpose of embarrassing and intimidating a woman way more smarter than he is. And the outrage, 2 years on, due to the sewer of a resurrected Instagram/twitter post regarding "face diapers," is directed at Dr. Ouchie. What was that about critical thinking skills again? Good lord this nation is so fucked.
Same...and now we know that she offered to go on vacation so that she wouldn't be asked to contradict the BS that tRump was spewing.
That was the moment of truth and she fucking failed us horribly.
Fauci outright lied. Full stop.
Wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory (and other) illnesses. Every medical professional knows that—certainly one who's been in the racket as long as he has—and they’ve known it for centuries. He knew he was lying. Why else add that little nugget about it stopping a droplet?
We can argue about the reasoning and morals behind it—for instance, I understand the why but don't buy his explanation (see: every medical professional has known for centuries that wearing face masks of any kind that cover your nose and mouth help to mitigate spreading infectious respiratory illnesses)—but some folks are bending over backwards to say that he didn't know the facts because of the evolving nature of the disease and science, etc.
Absolute spot on post as it relates to this topic.
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Despite bitching about testing from the early days, Biden waits until what is likely the end of the 2nd major variants move through the country to figure out how to make tests readily available.
And allowing 400 million of the country's stockpile of N95's be available is just for show. That's literally about 1 mask per person...lasts about 5 days. And will be available after the latest surge. That is purely a political move. I bought a box of 3M N95's off amazon very easily for like $20.
Fauci contradicted tRump consistently.
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2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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yeah...great job Birx!
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Did you read the article for more context or just respond to the headline? The actual poll question relates to potential charges for those who refused mandatory vaccination if there was a vaccine mandate, which is a different issue than just "the unvaccinated" currently.
(sorry for the funky font size - that's how it copied)
Many Canadians are in favour of harsh punishments for the unvaccinated, with 37 per cent saying in a new poll it would be acceptable to deny them publicly-funded health care — and 27 per cent that it would be OK to go as far as a short jail sentence.
“A majority of Canadians have little sympathy for the unvaccinated,” said John Wright, executive vice-president of Maru Public Opinion, which conducted the poll on Jan. 14 and 15. Maru surveyed an online panel of 1,506 Canadians. A comparable probability sample of the same size has a margin of error of +/- 2.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
It found two-thirds of Canadians are in favour of mandatory vaccines for everyone over the age of five. Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said earlier this month that mandatory vaccinations are on the horizon, and something that provincial governments should be discussing.
The poll also asked about various punitive measures for those who would refuse a mandatory vaccination. Thirty-three per cent of the survey respondents said it would be acceptable to not allow them to renew their drivers’ licence.
Another 37 per cent said it would be ok to refuse to “allow them access to any publicly funded hospital/medical services.” More than a quarter, 27 per cent, said it would be acceptable to make them serve up to five days “as part of a jail sentence for endangering others/overwhelming (the) healthcare system.”
And further down the article:
Sixty-one per cent of the respondents said it would be ok to make the unvaccinated pay “a monetary healthcare surcharge on their taxes of up to $150 per month.” That’s the same percentage that said it would be ok to make such individuals “pay out of pocket for the full medical cost” if they are admitted to hospital or the ICU with COVID-19.
full article at link: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/more-than-one-in-four-canadians-support-jail-time-for-unvaccinated-poll
According to Birx, "all the doctors received death threats." (And remember she's the one who didn't tell an outright lie to the American people.)
Yes, she took a bullet on a Christian network (?) in MARCH 2020 that apparently Gern watched live. Praise the Lord!
But I'll remind you that in March 2020, everyone on the task force, including Fauci, was taking bullets for the Trump administration so that they could do their jobs.
Fauci certainly contradicted Trump as time went on. And Birx went deer in headlights or simply just went.
If you don't think that standing up to a man like Donald J. Trump for the greater good is more difficult for a woman than a man, then, well, that's pretty neat.
I'm not here to vilify Fauci or praise Birx. They are both experts in their field. They are both fallible. I wish that they were still both working together because two heads are better than one. Of course, then Birx would start getting death threats and GOP harassment again. Perhaps it's better for her to just be the scapegoat. Better for our country if she rejoined the fight, though.
Unbelievable....
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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