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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If being vaccinated keeps you out of the hospital, then that is good…especially us Canadians…keeps our health system from collapsing.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    I'm not saying everything the CDC says is right and everything that Rand Paul says is right, but in this instance I'd rather someone tell me that cloth masks aren't protecting me and to use N95 masks, versus the group that waits two years to encourage everyone to wear N95 masks instead of cloth. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    bootlegger10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    I'm not saying everything the CDC says is right and everything that Rand Paul says is right, but in this instance I'd rather someone tell me that cloth masks aren't protecting me and to use N95 masks, versus the group that waits two years to encourage everyone to wear N95 masks instead of cloth. 
    Two years ago, didn’t we all know that medical shields were the best, followed by N95, followed by surgical, followed by cloth, followed by neck gaiters, followed by nothing.  

    Did you really think that N95 and cloth were equal?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    So where’s the data that shows cloth masks have 0% efficacy?
  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    So where’s the data that shows cloth masks have 0% efficacy?
    They don’t. This is all nonsense from people that clearly have never worked with PPE previously.

    N95s are obviously better as they are engineered for a uniform barrier that specifically blocks a certain % of a certain size.  This has been the case forever and only an idiot would think they were more protective all along. 

    Certainly cloth masks do not protect as well. But it also stupid to just say cloth masks don’t work…what material? How many layers? How is the fit?  

    This isn’t hard…except for people with agendas vs science/truth. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,090
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    Ridiculous...not as good as N95 but to say they aren't better than no protection is just about as ignorant as you can get
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  • Bentleyspop
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    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
    Nice to see that some on here get it.

    I work in retail management and have to deal with customers on a daily a basis. I am rarely closer than 6 feet and rarely interact for more than a couple of minutes. I am double vaxxed and boosted (Thanks Dolly) and for the last 22 months I have worn mostly cloth masks and the occasional surgical. Just got my first N95s yesterday. Will be double masking for the foreseeable future. 

    "As effective" could mean 90% vs N95 or it could mean 9%. But it doesn't  mean NOT effective.
  • mickeyrat
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    I'd ask,  wont work to do what? prevent infecting someone while performing surgery? keep paint fumes or other toxic fumes from entering your lungs?

    how about allergens? do they help folks with asthma from experiencing  an attack? help prevent flu virus from spreading?

    containing your nasty ass breath?

    what are we talking about here?

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  • Gern Blansten
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    We were mostly wearing cloth or non-N95 masks in 2020 and look at how reported cases of the flu dropped.  They work.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    More context for the discussion of being hospitalized "for covid" or "with covid". 

    Researchers are seeing that the distinction is not as clear as many are portraying it to be. For instance: Many patients who test positive while in hospital for another issue wind up having poorer outcomes than those who aren't battling a coronavirus infection, Betts said. 

    Multiple studies from various countries suggest higher death rates for patients being treated for hip fractures who also tested positive for the coronavirus, compared to those who tested negative, for instance. Having a coronavirus infection also makes it riskier to get various types of surgery, and increases the odds that someone who's pregnant will have a preterm delivery, stillbirth, or other complications.


    Full article at link: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/some-patients-go-in-for-covid-19-others-are-infected-alongside-another-issue-in-hospitals-those-lines-blur-1.6318059
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  • dignin
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    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
    Great analogy.

    Why is this so hard to understand?
  • Poncier
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    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
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