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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If being vaccinated keeps you out of the hospital, then that is good…especially us Canadians…keeps our health system from collapsing.
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,716
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,940
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,940
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,716
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    I'm not saying everything the CDC says is right and everything that Rand Paul says is right, but in this instance I'd rather someone tell me that cloth masks aren't protecting me and to use N95 masks, versus the group that waits two years to encourage everyone to wear N95 masks instead of cloth. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,940
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    I'm not saying everything the CDC says is right and everything that Rand Paul says is right, but in this instance I'd rather someone tell me that cloth masks aren't protecting me and to use N95 masks, versus the group that waits two years to encourage everyone to wear N95 masks instead of cloth. 
    Two years ago, didn’t we all know that medical shields were the best, followed by N95, followed by surgical, followed by cloth, followed by neck gaiters, followed by nothing.  

    Did you really think that N95 and cloth were equal?
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,940
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    So where’s the data that shows cloth masks have 0% efficacy?
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,220
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    So where’s the data that shows cloth masks have 0% efficacy?
    They don’t. This is all nonsense from people that clearly have never worked with PPE previously.

    N95s are obviously better as they are engineered for a uniform barrier that specifically blocks a certain % of a certain size.  This has been the case forever and only an idiot would think they were more protective all along. 

    Certainly cloth masks do not protect as well. But it also stupid to just say cloth masks don’t work…what material? How many layers? How is the fit?  

    This isn’t hard…except for people with agendas vs science/truth. 
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,382
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    Ridiculous...not as good as N95 but to say they aren't better than no protection is just about as ignorant as you can get
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,607
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
    Nice to see that some on here get it.

    I work in retail management and have to deal with customers on a daily a basis. I am rarely closer than 6 feet and rarely interact for more than a couple of minutes. I am double vaxxed and boosted (Thanks Dolly) and for the last 22 months I have worn mostly cloth masks and the occasional surgical. Just got my first N95s yesterday. Will be double masking for the foreseeable future. 

    "As effective" could mean 90% vs N95 or it could mean 9%. But it doesn't  mean NOT effective.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,664
     
    I'd ask,  wont work to do what? prevent infecting someone while performing surgery? keep paint fumes or other toxic fumes from entering your lungs?

    how about allergens? do they help folks with asthma from experiencing  an attack? help prevent flu virus from spreading?

    containing your nasty ass breath?

    what are we talking about here?

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,382
    We were mostly wearing cloth or non-N95 masks in 2020 and look at how reported cases of the flu dropped.  They work.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    More context for the discussion of being hospitalized "for covid" or "with covid". 

    Researchers are seeing that the distinction is not as clear as many are portraying it to be. For instance: Many patients who test positive while in hospital for another issue wind up having poorer outcomes than those who aren't battling a coronavirus infection, Betts said. 

    Multiple studies from various countries suggest higher death rates for patients being treated for hip fractures who also tested positive for the coronavirus, compared to those who tested negative, for instance. Having a coronavirus infection also makes it riskier to get various types of surgery, and increases the odds that someone who's pregnant will have a preterm delivery, stillbirth, or other complications.


    Full article at link: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/some-patients-go-in-for-covid-19-others-are-infected-alongside-another-issue-in-hospitals-those-lines-blur-1.6318059
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,322
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    "Aren't as effective" and "Aren't effective" are two different things. 
    "Paul falsely claimed in the removed video, “Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work. They don’t prevent infection," adding that “cloth masks don’t work."

    A few months later:

    "The C.D.C. concedes that cloth masks do not protect against the virus as effectively as other masks."

    Remember when the CDC was telling us to wear both a cloth mask and a surgical mask at the same time? Pathetic.
    You didn’t contradict my point, you just reinforced it.  Thanks?
    "Most of the masks you get over the counter don't work." Rand Paul was right and YouTube was wrong.

    This is a false statement.  Cloth masks work when worn properly, but aren't as effective as N95...We've known this since the beginning.  If I am going to the beach and all I have is spf 15 I'm not going to forego sunscreen altogether because SPF 15 isn't as effective as SPF 80.  Jesus Christ some people are thick!
    Great analogy.

    Why is this so hard to understand?
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,434
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
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    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,322
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
    The smell of Trump's ass never goes away.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,434
    dignin said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
     


    containing your nasty ass breath?


    Rand Paul has yet to find a mask that's effective for him at doing this.
    The smell of Trump's ass never goes away.
    :lol:

    Rim Paul?

    This weekend we rock Portland
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,716
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
    Absolutely a cloth mask is better than no mask.     As I have said before, i don’t want the government to say that a mask is not necessary because they failed to plan for an epidemic and there aren’t enough masks.  Tell me how to best protect myself. Companies would have ramped up production on N95 versus cloth masks.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,940
    Rand Paul banned from YouTube for 7 days due to claiming cloth masks aren’t effective.  August 2021
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1276534

    CDC indicates that cloth masks are not as effective.  January 2022.

    Another example of why some don’t trust the government.  We knew N95 was better than cloth but why just now at about 2 years in the CDC is saying this?  Tell the people what they should do from the start.  Maybe more would produce N95 masks and make up for the higher demand sooner. 

    Yes, YT is a private company.  Just another example though of control of thought.  Facebook banned any talk about the virus coming from a lab until the Biden administration said it was a possibility (then it was okay to talk about again).  

    Some on the right see their opinions/thoughts disregarded or told it is misinformation when end of the day they aren’t too far from the truth or mainstream sometimes.  This creates distrust and  people may be prone to believe more crackpot theories.  


    Faucii stated that he first mentioned Masks were not needed to stop the panic buy and that personnel that needed it would get it.

    They talk about N95 being the better use of a mask now 1-beacuse it always has been and 2-you can get them rather easily now.
    Absolutely a cloth mask is better than no mask.     As I have said before, i don’t want the government to say that a mask is not necessary because they failed to plan for an epidemic and there aren’t enough masks.  Tell me how to best protect myself. Companies would have ramped up production on N95 versus cloth masks.
    Yeah I don't think that's true.  Cloth masks were made by clothing companies to capitalize on a quick opportunity.  KN95 are PPEs and one would expect those were made by medical supply companies.  People chose to use cloth.  In my house, there were all three types (surgical, KN95 and cloth).  Everyone seemed to grab the cloth because they never broke and they were 'prettier'.  But we all knew 95's were the best. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,176
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,716
    brianlux said:
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    The only problem with that is that the medical leaders said masks weren’t necessary when they knew they were.
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,043
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    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,716
    tish said:
    ^Better than mass hysteria saying the air is poisoned and we have no N95s available for the public for an airborne respiratory disease that causes heart attack, stroke, pneumonia, death etc...

    They eased us into it, in a similar way that Ed might let you get to know him as a person before revealing a superstar identity.


    Perhaps, but I think we should know the truth from the start.  
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,176
    brianlux said:
    The most logical solution to the mask issue is to pay more attention to what scientists and medical experts say, less attention to what politicians say, and almost no attention to what people on Facebook say.
    The only problem with that is that the medical leaders said masks weren’t necessary when they knew they were.

    There is much more to the field of medicine than its "leaders".   Think "Peter Principle".
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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