So how about those fan club singles *edit* THAT I FINALLY GOT!!
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Lost In Ohio said:Tim Simmons said:cincybearcat said:more vinyl being sold...........weird. No production issues with purple Ten?
I'd assume that Ten got produced via Sony/Epic Legacy.
The 10C singles never had a Sony/Epic logo on them, correct?
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Looks like we're getting "Wildflowers" with "Keep Me In Your Heart" for one of them and 2 Cornell/Soundgarden covers for the other. "Missing" which is a Superunknown outtake and something else. Probably Sunshower.Dallas 98Dallas 2000Kansas City 2000St. Louis 2000Memphis 2000OKC 2003Dallas 2003Kansas City 2003Little Rock 2003Cincinnati 2006Vegas 2006EV Los Angeles 2008 x 2VH1 Rock Honors the Who 2008
Berlin 2009Los Angeles 2009 x 4The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien 2009Los Angeles 2013 x 2Tulsa 2014EV Ohana 2016Ohana 2021 x 4
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Looks like we're getting "Wildflowers" with "Keep Me In Your Heart" for one of them and 2 Cornell/Soundgarden covers for the other. "Missing" which is a Superunknown outtake and something else. Probably Sunshower.0
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THEBIBLEISTEN said:Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.
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THEBIBLEISTEN said:Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.1993 - Toronto
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II0 -
At least they finally gave us an update. Looking forward to spinning these songs on vinyl.0
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this is going to be a hell of a christmasAtlanta, GA 8/7/00...Atlanta, GA 4/19/03...Columbia, SC 6/16/08...New Orleans, LA 5/1/10...East Troy, WI 9/3/11... East Troy, WI 9/4/11... Atlanta, GA 9/22/12...Greenville, SC 4/16/16...Nashville, TN 9/16/22...Atlanta, GA 4/29/25...Atlanta, GA 5/1/250
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Clapper said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.0
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yay!Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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on2legs said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:on2legs said:JB16057 said:The only time that the 10c responds is when pressure is applied to them. I've been mocked for reaching out to the Washington AG's office but guess what? It worked. They gave an official response in the October 2019 monthly email. We would never have received any word from the 10c unless I had reached out to the AG.The next and last time we received an official update was 7 months ago in the April monthly email. I can not prove that I had anything to do with that but I was applying pressure to them in ways that I didn't discuss on this board. It was either my actions or just dumb luck that we heard from the Ten Club right after I was doing what I was doing.I backed off for many months and gave them a chance to make it right. Now it is clearly time to start applying pressure again. If you don't agree, I don't blame you. Here we are applying pressure on the board again and if I have time, I'll continue doing what I started doing back in March to try and pressure them.It is not unreasonable to ask for an update for items you paid for 2 years ago regardless of what the naysayers want you to believe.
You would be completely in your right to go back and get the fries you were owed. The two big differences in your analogy though are that your missing $1 fries were much less valuable than what's expected from the 10C. Second, if McDonald's was 'forgetting' to provide fries to EVERY customer, that would be a major issue and I can guarantee that there would be lawsuits and/or some kind of escalated pressure on them to stop the false advertising and ripping off of customers.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
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It's clear there are 3 sides here. Those who don't care one way or another that they aren't getting what they paid for, because they don't think it's a big deal. The second group are very vocal that Pearl Jam and the 10C don't owe us anything, and look at the membership dues as almost a donation to the band, arguing that they've given us enough, so fans shouldn't complain. The third group look at the 10C as a business, and membership dues are paid for an advertised service and provided goods.I'm in the third group, but I see the points of the other two. In the universe of who I don't mind giving money to with nothing in return, it would be Pearl Jam. In the universe of things to gripe about, this is far down the list. However, facts are facts, and the fact is that 10C is a business that advertises specific goods and services are to be provided in return for payment towards a membership. Not providing what is advertised is a clear issue of false advertising and/or poor customer service. I don't expect to not pay and receive 10C benefits, and conversely I don't expect to pay and not receive said services. If you want to donate to Pearl Jam or the 10C, fine, but this isn't a charity service.24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young0 -
Tim Simmons said:JB16057 said:You can not tell me that 5 dudes collectively worth almost $400 million dollars can't produce a handful of vinyl singles. The longer this goes on, the more nefarious it seems and becomes.
Yes, the delay has been ridiculous as well, but we have the mp3s and pdfs, we are closer to getting these than not. I do think 10c can be bad at communicating stuff, but "nefarious" is pretty laughable.
Agreed, good post. I don't believe for a moment that any of this is nefarious, that would be antithetical to all this band has shown and stood for and the reason most of us are fans. I do think that the 10C and the band are run somewhat separately and whether there's a disconnect between the two or mismanagement, there is clearly an issue with the business model right now.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
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the issue is, that you are apart of a fan club. you consider yourself a big fan of pearl jam or you would not have joined said fan club, therefore, there is a special place in your heart for said band. the band you enjoy/love/like/etc is/was basically saying, we dont care about you as fans. that sucks. that is why people were agitated by all of this. no more, no less.Atlanta, GA 8/7/00...Atlanta, GA 4/19/03...Columbia, SC 6/16/08...New Orleans, LA 5/1/10...East Troy, WI 9/3/11... East Troy, WI 9/4/11... Atlanta, GA 9/22/12...Greenville, SC 4/16/16...Nashville, TN 9/16/22...Atlanta, GA 4/29/25...Atlanta, GA 5/1/250
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Thank you Ten Club... looking forward to these in the mail!1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0
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AllNiteThing said:It's clear there are 3 sides here. Those who don't care one way or another that they aren't getting what they paid for, because they don't think it's a big deal. The second group are very vocal that Pearl Jam and the 10C don't owe us anything, and look at the membership dues as almost a donation to the band, arguing that they've given us enough, so fans shouldn't complain. The third group look at the 10C as a business, and membership dues are paid for an advertised service and provided goods.I'm in the third group, but I see the points of the other two. In the universe of who I don't mind giving money to with nothing in return, it would be Pearl Jam. In the universe of things to gripe about, this is far down the list. However, facts are facts, and the fact is that 10C is a business that advertises specific goods and services are to be provided in return for payment towards a membership. Not providing what is advertised is a clear issue of false advertising and/or poor customer service. I don't expect to not pay and receive 10C benefits, and conversely I don't expect to pay and not receive said services. If you want to donate to Pearl Jam or the 10C, fine, but this isn't a charity service.
The real divides here are one group believes PJ will come through because they do make things right so people are fine waiting, and the other is worried they won't or that its a scam and need validation that it isn't. But those 2 lenses make the points that we all agree on are perceived differently by the opposing side. I don't think group 2 is a real group or if it is, its a few dozen people.
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THEBIBLEISTEN said:Clapper said:THEBIBLEISTEN said:Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.1993 - Toronto
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II0 -
And these are the last PJ Fan Club Singles that will ever be produced?
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Spoken said:And these are the last PJ Fan Club Singles that will ever be produced?
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We don't know if they are pressing them in-house. Assembling them to ship, sure.
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