CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited March 2020
    lastexitlondon said:
    85 uk cases now. By the time the tour is meant to be here it will be everywhere
    It maybe or it may not be. Look at China's numbers the last couple of weeks with the decline. Yes they took extreme measures but the tour is 4 months away. So much can happen. I get the anxiety with this stuff and the waiting game is a tough one but I am pretty confident this summer will be ok tour wise and health wise. Fingers crossed and hope I am right. 
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Wilco87 said:
    Gigaton facemasks. Huge marketing opportunity.
     Unfortunately, it does tie-in to Climate Change. One of the predictions has always been increased virus activity with warming global temps..

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  • NEweather
    NEweather Posts: 555
    ( I don't know, but I'm checking alot, to see if they are going to postpone these spring dates... Hope not. )
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited March 2020
    For those reading the headline from Dick Pound and the shock that would be canceling the summer Olympics here is the latest update from the president of the IOC. 

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/thomas-bach-ioc-president-tokyo-olympics-1.5485283


    "Neither the word cancellation nor the word postponement was even mentioned"

    Asked how he could be so confident the July 24-Aug. 9 Olympics will go ahead as scheduled, Bach replied: "Because we talk to the experts."

    "We are a sports organization and we follow the advice of the World Health Organization," Bach said, referring to the United Nations agency based around 60 kilometres away in Geneva.

  • mattsavard
    mattsavard Posts: 526
    edited March 2020
    15 Days until we fly out for Ottawa... 

    My cancellation abilities are: 
    Airfare is nonrefundable with Delta
    Ottawa Hotel: 1 of two nights can be cancelled
    VIA Rail Train to QC: Can be cancelled with small Fee
    Quebec City Hotel: 2 of 2 nights can be cancelled
    Nashville Hotel: 1 of 1 night can be cancelled
    St Louis Hotel: 1 of 2 nights can be cancelled

    If the shows are on, and hopefully they will be, we are going. If they are cancelled I'll be heartbroken but should be able to recoup all but about $1400 of our expenses. A chunk of change, but not the end of the world. 

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  • Cridder
    Cridder Posts: 165
    Cridder said:
    no tickets, no worries


  • Clapper
    Clapper Toronto Posts: 209
    mattsavard said:
    15 Days until we fly out for Ottawa... 

    My cancellation abilities are: 
    Airfare is nonrefundable with Delta
    Ottawa Hotel: 1 of two nights can be cancelled
    VIA Rail Train to QC: Can be cancelled with small Fee
    Quebec City Hotel: 2 of 2 nights can be cancelled
    Nashville Hotel: 1 of 1 night can be cancelled
    St Louis Hotel: 1 of 2 nights can be cancelled

    If the shows are on, and hopefully they will be, we are going. If they are cancelled I'll be heartbroken but should be able to recoup all but about $1400 of our expenses. A chunk of change, but not the end of the world. 

    https://www.today.com/money/coronavirus-travel-us-airline-cancellation-fee-waiver-policies-t175016

    A lot of airlines - including Delta have made temporary policy updates to allow for cancellation or changes during this time.  Full list of updates by airline and their specific policies in the article. 
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  • pbultimate
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    100%.  Non-refundable doesn’t really mean nonrefundable when it comes to this situation. 

    Hell, i was able to get everything back for Raleigh after explaining the case to the appropriate mgrs. Even read some of the letter PJ put out.
  • mattsavard
    mattsavard Posts: 526
    Some Miami officials pushing to postpone massive Ultra Festival.... ugh 

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article240878956.html?fbclid=IwAR23DF9fyg30CgISIiBtD7X8gYDWSX_vgegK0Se5czRnKiabFJq-niBFNIM&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The more you guys continue to panic and talk about it, the more ammo you're giving them to be over-reactionary and cancel the tour.  So, for the sake of all of us...  Shut the fuck up about it!
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  • washed in black
    washed in black Posts: 900
    If they were leaning towards canceling, they prob wouldn't have tweeted about the behind the stage seats available in Quebec. 
    2 weeks from today, I expect to be pre-gaming for the tour kickoff in Toronto. 
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  • RatherStarved
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    The more you guys continue to panic and talk about it, the more ammo you're giving them to be over-reactionary and cancel the tour.  So, for the sake of all of us...  Shut the fuck up about it!
    They’re going to decide what they decide based on the best available information from the appropriate organizations and experts.  They are not going to decide anything based on this thread.  In any case people are free to state their opinions here.  
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  • nicknyr15
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    Humans never cease to amaze me. More importantly, disappoint me.  The price gouging for sanitizers, Lysol wipes, masks(which are ineffective) is absolutely disgusting and fucking embarrassing. 
  • Ray J. T.
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    mattsavard said:
    Some Miami officials pushing to postpone massive Ultra Festival.... ugh 

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article240878956.html?fbclid=IwAR23DF9fyg30CgISIiBtD7X8gYDWSX_vgegK0Se5czRnKiabFJq-niBFNIM&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
    You have to take into consideration that Miami is expecting roughly 200,000 people from over 105 different countries for the festival. You cant compare this situation to a PJ tour in the U.S. 
  • Lostpawn
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    mattsavard said:
    Some Miami officials pushing to postpone massive Ultra Festival.... ugh 

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/downtown-miami/article240878956.html?fbclid=IwAR23DF9fyg30CgISIiBtD7X8gYDWSX_vgegK0Se5czRnKiabFJq-niBFNIM&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
    Yeah, they already cancelled Ultra in Abu Dhabi. Obviously a very different part of the world, but it sets a precedent of sorts. 

    As a Miami resident I’m mixed on this. I get the concerns with the vast international travel Ultra brings, but the economic upside is considerable. Far, far greater than any Pearl Jam show.  Based on the city’s request and the fact that they have the right to revoke the permit, I’m guessing they postpone or cancel. 
  • Original_Shifty
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    Clapper said:
    If the WHO declares it a global pandemic.
    I was thinking the same thing this morning. If the WHO declares a pandemic, this tour is done.
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  • Lostpawn
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    Wow. They delayed the launch of the new Bond movie from April to November, due to covid. 
  • PeterED
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    I dunno...I would think the 1st Leg dates would be fine with the possible exception of cities where there are confirmed cases beyond statistically insignificant.

    I’d be more concerned about the second Leg. The number of confirmed cases there is rising rapidly. Still weeks to go before I would guess a decision on those dates needs to be made.
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  • PJNB
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    Lostpawn said:
    Wow. They delayed the launch of the new Bond movie from April to November, due to covid. 
    Straight up financial move. They want those international numbers to be strong. 
  • myoung321
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    PJNB said:
    Lostpawn said:
    Wow. They delayed the launch of the new Bond movie from April to November, due to covid. 
    Straight up financial move. They want those international numbers to be strong. 
    The Bond movies are huge in China, so that makes sense.
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