The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    That's why 538 was more accurate than any of the those other sites that were giving Clinton a 90% chance of winning on election day morning. Nate Silver said 70% or so and people called him crazy. He was right. Clinton was a heavy favorite but that didn't mean she was a stone cold mortal lock. 

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/


    By the way---538 also is a good resource for gambling purposes!
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    Uh oh. 

    I just said their concerts will have rich white people attending. Anyone ever see a wide angled crowd pic of a rock crowd for a band that has been around 30 years? 99.9% white too low estimate?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266


    Are you sure? That probably would indicate trump gets re-elected

     (or Biden wins, selects yang vp, then retires)

    Good point.  Of course I absolutely DO NOT want Dumpster to get re-elected but if he does.... oh the hell with that.  He won't!
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  • By the way---538 also is a good resource for gambling purposes!
    I had such a miserable Super Bowl. Took it on the chin badly. I’ll be back in September...
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,970
    edited February 2020
    Sanders briefed that Russia is attempting to aid his campaign.  
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Uh oh. 

    I just said their concerts will have rich white people attending. Anyone ever see a wide angled crowd pic of a rock crowd for a band that has been around 30 years? 99.9% white too low estimate?
    Wear your Maroon 5 T and periscope it. Be sure to pump your fist to really blend in.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,210
    My rational thought process has concluded that Russia would like to support the candidate that likes Russia. 


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  • Jason P said:
    My rational thought process has concluded that Russia would like to support the candidate that likes Russia. 


    Which one is it? Do you know? Bahahahahahaha! 
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  • Are you sure? That probably would indicate trump gets re-elected

     (or Biden wins, selects yang vp, then retires)
    How would Trump even be an option in 2024?!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,320
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    Way to be insufferable.  Must be the white privilege you've benefited from your entire life.  
    I happen to believe, these types of responses made to belittle another poster (ecdanc) only points to you feeling you fit the bill of her explanation. But maybe I am wrong ofc.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,320
    edited February 2020
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,320
    edited February 2020
    T R U T H  S P I T T E R 





    (Joe Walsh is weird)

    Melber is not weird at all. Def the best dude over at MSNBC

    https://youtu.be/eXgm7rlcM5g
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814

  • What would it be like if Mike Bloomberg actually won?
    Since 1993.
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    What would it be like if Mike Bloomberg actually won?
    Image result for stop and frisk
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,661
    Jason P said:
    My rational thought process has concluded that Russia would like to support the candidate that likes Russia. 


    I had already assumed that Russia was trying to help Sanders in the primary.  I think that support would move to Trump in the general.  I don't think Sanders would be an ally to Russia like Trump.  But I also think that Russia concluded that either Sanders can't beat him and/or Sanders won't move aggressively to check them.  It's a win either way  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,661
    I happen to believe, these types of responses made to belittle another poster (ecdanc) only points to you feeling you fit the bill of her explanation. But maybe I am wrong ofc.
    You are wrong, ofc.  However I'll say nothing else as the others here evidently and wisely decided to ignore the whole thing.  I'll follow suit.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426




    That -0- is going to lose him ALOT of general election votes. 
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    You are wrong, ofc.  However I'll say nothing else as the others here evidently and wisely decided to ignore the whole thing.  I'll follow suit.
    Proverbs 17:28 
  • Go Joe!

    :)
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    How would Trump even be an option in 2024?!


    Because if a democrat wins now it’s very unlikely yang would challenge a sitting democratic president in a 2024 primary. 

    So the most likely outcome in that photo is trump wins 2020.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    ecdanc said:
    Image result for stop and frisk

    Two sides to every story.


    What’s the city like after he left?

    It’s the Wild West in Penn Station.

    The vagrant whose alleged threats got a homeless outreach nonprofit to flee the transit hub in fear last weekend was holding court — and spewing hate at cops — there Thursday.

    Eugene Watts was spotted sipping a brown-bag beer in the station one day after The Post reported that embattled nonprofit Bowery Residents Committee up and abandoned its satellite office there because he allegedly threatened to shoot workers.

    Watts, who claims to be a former boxer, remained defiant Thursday.

    “Mr. Eugene Watts, you have five minutes to leave,” one of two passing Amtrak cops on patrol at the busy transit hub was heard telling Watts on Thursday. “There is a warrant out for your arrest.”


    Watts fired back: “Kiss my black ass. I’d rather go to jail. I can get an apartment.”

    The cops simply walked on.

    The tasteless tableau was one scene in a chaotic day at the terminal.

    On Wednesday, The Post revealed that taxpayer-funded BRC — which was slammed by the state comptroller last year for only dedicating 26 percent of its time to actual outreach — had been “indefinitely” closed because Watts allegedly threatened on Saturday to “come back with a gun and shoot you.”

    Watts, who denied the gun threat, was among the more than two dozen homeless people back at the station Thursday — many of whom had to be dealt with by police because BRC’s offices were closed and its workers scarce.

    BRC is under contract with Amtrak to run the outreach office to help the dozens of homeless people who frequent Penn Station on a regular basis.

    ....

    A union representing thousands of New York City police sergeants said Sunday that its members will go to "war" with Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) after a police officer was shot in what the mayor has called an assassination attempt.

    The Sergeant's Benevolent Association (SBA) tweeted Sunday that the mayor was not welcome to visit wounded officers in the hospital, and added that the officers had no "respect" for the Democratic mayor.

    "Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!" the union's Twitter account posted.


    "Police are being targeted.The anti cop tone infecting our city & state is causing bloodshed. Before any public official sends their thoughts & prayers, they should ask themselves how the language & behavior they've been tolerating has contributed to violence against police," read another tweet from the union's account.



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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    mrussel1 said:
    I had already assumed that Russia was trying to help Sanders in the primary.  I think that support would move to Trump in the general.  I don't think Sanders would be an ally to Russia like Trump.  But I also think that Russia concluded that either Sanders can't beat him and/or Sanders won't move aggressively to check them.  It's a win either way  

    Russia tries to accomplish two things- support the candidate that likes Russia AND create division to weaken our democracy.

    they succeeded on both counts in 2016


    As far as supporting Sanders, many believe the gop and trump want sanders the nominee as socialism is perceived as very beatable in America. So Russia is helping them get what they want, AND creating more division within the Democratic Party.
  • ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814

    Two sides to every story.


    What’s the city like after he left?

    It’s the Wild West in Penn Station.

    The vagrant whose alleged threats got a homeless outreach nonprofit to flee the transit hub in fear last weekend was holding court — and spewing hate at cops — there Thursday.

    Eugene Watts was spotted sipping a brown-bag beer in the station one day after The Post reported that embattled nonprofit Bowery Residents Committee up and abandoned its satellite office there because he allegedly threatened to shoot workers.

    Watts, who claims to be a former boxer, remained defiant Thursday.

    “Mr. Eugene Watts, you have five minutes to leave,” one of two passing Amtrak cops on patrol at the busy transit hub was heard telling Watts on Thursday. “There is a warrant out for your arrest.”


    Watts fired back: “Kiss my black ass. I’d rather go to jail. I can get an apartment.”

    The cops simply walked on.

    The tasteless tableau was one scene in a chaotic day at the terminal.

    On Wednesday, The Post revealed that taxpayer-funded BRC — which was slammed by the state comptroller last year for only dedicating 26 percent of its time to actual outreach — had been “indefinitely” closed because Watts allegedly threatened on Saturday to “come back with a gun and shoot you.”

    Watts, who denied the gun threat, was among the more than two dozen homeless people back at the station Thursday — many of whom had to be dealt with by police because BRC’s offices were closed and its workers scarce.

    BRC is under contract with Amtrak to run the outreach office to help the dozens of homeless people who frequent Penn Station on a regular basis.

    ....

    A union representing thousands of New York City police sergeants said Sunday that its members will go to "war" with Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) after a police officer was shot in what the mayor has called an assassination attempt.

    The Sergeant's Benevolent Association (SBA) tweeted Sunday that the mayor was not welcome to visit wounded officers in the hospital, and added that the officers had no "respect" for the Democratic mayor.

    "Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!" the union's Twitter account posted.


    "Police are being targeted.The anti cop tone infecting our city & state is causing bloodshed. Before any public official sends their thoughts & prayers, they should ask themselves how the language & behavior they've been tolerating has contributed to violence against police," read another tweet from the union's account.



    .

    Someone I follow already put it better than I can: "Police unions aren’t unions because police aren’t workers."
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    T R U T H  S P I T T E R 




    (Joe Walsh is weird)


    Life’s been good to him so far.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,426
    ecdanc said:
    Someone I follow already put it better than I can: "Police unions aren’t unions because police aren’t workers."

    Interesting but wasn’t the point. All de blaze did was soften stop and frisk. And we are heading back into the seventies in NY. Insurrection ain’t fun. 

    The lucky msg ticket holders from outta town might be in for a teeny tiny post Bloomberg surprise on the 30th. Ed too. Will give even flow more passion.

  • Two sides to every story.


    What’s the city like after he left?

    It’s the Wild West in Penn Station.

    The vagrant whose alleged threats got a homeless outreach nonprofit to flee the transit hub in fear last weekend was holding court — and spewing hate at cops — there Thursday.

    Eugene Watts was spotted sipping a brown-bag beer in the station one day after The Post reported that embattled nonprofit Bowery Residents Committee up and abandoned its satellite office there because he allegedly threatened to shoot workers.

    Watts, who claims to be a former boxer, remained defiant Thursday.

    “Mr. Eugene Watts, you have five minutes to leave,” one of two passing Amtrak cops on patrol at the busy transit hub was heard telling Watts on Thursday. “There is a warrant out for your arrest.”


    Watts fired back: “Kiss my black ass. I’d rather go to jail. I can get an apartment.”

    The cops simply walked on.

    The tasteless tableau was one scene in a chaotic day at the terminal.

    On Wednesday, The Post revealed that taxpayer-funded BRC — which was slammed by the state comptroller last year for only dedicating 26 percent of its time to actual outreach — had been “indefinitely” closed because Watts allegedly threatened on Saturday to “come back with a gun and shoot you.”

    Watts, who denied the gun threat, was among the more than two dozen homeless people back at the station Thursday — many of whom had to be dealt with by police because BRC’s offices were closed and its workers scarce.

    BRC is under contract with Amtrak to run the outreach office to help the dozens of homeless people who frequent Penn Station on a regular basis.

    ....

    A union representing thousands of New York City police sergeants said Sunday that its members will go to "war" with Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) after a police officer was shot in what the mayor has called an assassination attempt.

    The Sergeant's Benevolent Association (SBA) tweeted Sunday that the mayor was not welcome to visit wounded officers in the hospital, and added that the officers had no "respect" for the Democratic mayor.

    "Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!" the union's Twitter account posted.


    "Police are being targeted.The anti cop tone infecting our city & state is causing bloodshed. Before any public official sends their thoughts & prayers, they should ask themselves how the language & behavior they've been tolerating has contributed to violence against police," read another tweet from the union's account.



    .

    Stupid is as stupid does. Pining for Ghouliani?
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,360

    Interesting but wasn’t the point. All de blaze did was soften stop and frisk. And we are heading back into the seventies in NY. Insurrection ain’t fun. 

    The lucky msg ticket holders from outta town might be in for a teeny tiny post Bloomberg surprise on the 30th. Ed too. Will give even flow more passion.
    For what it's worth you're to the right of National Review on this.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/new-york-city-stop-and-frisk-crime-decline-conservatives-wrong/
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