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I wonder, if Bernie drops out now, and the DNC has announced there's no audience at the upcoming primary debate - does Biden just get on the stage and ramble about corn pop and Obama for an hour? Jokes aside, I hope Sanders is about to concede.
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I wonder, if Bernie drops out now, and the DNC has announced there's no audience at the upcoming primary debate - does Biden just get on the stage and ramble about corn pop and Obama for an hour? Jokes aside, I hope Sanders is about to concede.
I’m a Bernie supporter and I sincerely hope he drops out. At this point the best that we can do is do what it takes to have some solidarity behind beating Trump
I’m a Bernie supporter and I sincerely hope he drops out. At this point the best that we can do is do what it takes to have some solidarity behind beating Trump
thank you.
are you in touch with other supporters? have any sense where they stand in relation to what you just said?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I’m a Bernie supporter and I sincerely hope he drops out. At this point the best that we can do is do what it takes to have some solidarity behind beating Trump
thank you.
are you in touch with other supporters? have any sense where they stand in relation to what you just said?
I have no idea what other people think. Ithere will be some upset people that will vote third party or not at all but that’s to be expected. At this point I’m going to use my vote to vote against trump and hope that the midterms and 2024 will have room to swing more to the left.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Bernie Sanders: "Today I say to the Democratic establishment: in order to win in the future, you need to win the voters who represent the future of our country, and you must speak to the issues of concern to them."
Primary voters: "Today I say to Bernie Sanders: in order to win in the future, you need to win the votes who represent the future of our country, and you must speak to the issues of concern to them."
People seeing cool-cat Adam Schiff and slayer Nancy Pelosi etc in action in these times, I don't think the "democratic establishment" boogeyman works on normal folks.
He should have been more "sound social reforms for the benefit of normal peoples lives, that other countries have to make their citizens lives better, more safe and more fair" and less "JOIN THE REVOLUTION, GRAB NEAREST SWORD AND LETS HEAD TO THE SWAMPS OF WASHINGTON FOR BLOOD"
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My hope is that Bernie and Biden have a civil debate to illustrate their proximity to the same end results, just different ways and timelines to get there. This is good and healthy for the party and the voters and can run contrary to Team Trump Treason not having any challengers, or really, any solutions to the issues of concern to the berniebrosises. Followed by a private meeting where Sleepy "Woke" Joe agrees to certain policy initiatives, maybe a cabinet position, in exchange for Bernie to actively and aggressively campaign for him. My fear is that the berniebrosises will refuse to come on board regardless and that Bernie will be lukewarm in his support. And that dooms us to four more years of Team Trump Treason. Question for the berniebrosises, who is or was Bernie's standard torch bearer after 4 to 8 years, or is that the length of the "revolution?" Which young up and coming "independent/democrat" was going to continue the revolution? Seems a major mistake to alienate everyone around you and not grow your coalition, like the guy who "lost it."
My hope is that Bernie and Biden have a civil debate to illustrate their proximity to the same end results, just different ways and timelines to get there. This is good and healthy for the party and the voters and can run contrary to Team Trump Treason not having any challengers, or really, any solutions to the issues of concern to the berniebrosises. Followed by a private meeting where Sleepy "Woke" Joe agrees to certain policy initiatives, maybe a cabinet position, in exchange for Bernie to actively and aggressively campaign for him. My fear is that the berniebrosises will refuse to come on board regardless and that Bernie will be lukewarm in his support. And that dooms us to four more years of Team Trump Treason. Question for the berniebrosises, who is or was Bernie's standard torch bearer after 4 to 8 years, or is that the length of the "revolution?" Which young up and coming "independent/democrat" was going to continue the revolution? Seems a major mistake to alienate everyone around you and not grow your coalition, like the guy who "lost it."
I just hope they don't both drop dead...which I feel is a real possibility.
My hope is that Bernie and Biden have a civil debate to illustrate their proximity to the same end results, just different ways and timelines to get there. This is good and healthy for the party and the voters and can run contrary to Team Trump Treason not having any challengers, or really, any solutions to the issues of concern to the berniebrosises. Followed by a private meeting where Sleepy "Woke" Joe agrees to certain policy initiatives, maybe a cabinet position, in exchange for Bernie to actively and aggressively campaign for him. My fear is that the berniebrosises will refuse to come on board regardless and that Bernie will be lukewarm in his support. And that dooms us to four more years of Team Trump Treason. Question for the berniebrosises, who is or was Bernie's standard torch bearer after 4 to 8 years, or is that the length of the "revolution?" Which young up and coming "independent/democrat" was going to continue the revolution? Seems a major mistake to alienate everyone around you and not grow your coalition, like the guy who "lost it."
I just hope they don't both drop dead...which I feel is a real possibility.
I do too. That makes Joe picking the right running mate all the more important
He’ll need it. That’d be bad for him to not have any debates between now and whenever he’d debate Trump. Probably in September.
Debates don't mean shit. Ask Elizabeth Warren what winning one means.
None of those debates with Liz mattered. Not because of her. But because it was a half-dozen people yelling at and over each other, most of which had no shot at the nomination. But a one-on-one debate could hold water. I don’t think either Biden or Trump will win the election based on debates, but they could lose votes based off a horrible debate.
He’ll need it. That’d be bad for him to not have any debates between now and whenever he’d debate Trump. Probably in September.
Debates don't mean shit. Ask Elizabeth Warren what winning one means.
None of those debates with Liz mattered. Not because of her. But because it was a half-dozen people yelling at and over each other, most of which had no shot at the nomination. But a one-on-one debate could hold water. I don’t think either Biden or Trump will win the election based on debates, but they could lose votes based off a horrible debate.
I suppose a falling down, stumbling debate performance might make a difference. But in general, it's likability. The results this week proves that yet again. Clintons was not better liked than Trump. Obama was well liked. Bush was, Bill Clinton was... etc.
If Biden stumbles over his words at a debate or looks confused, it will make it easier for people who want to believe there is no difference between he and Trump to do so. His strength is that he is a better person than Trump, but the debates may serve to reinforce that they are both old men, regardless of the fact that Trump is a blithering idiot. 63 million Republicans will vote for him.
He’ll need it. That’d be bad for him to not have any debates between now and whenever he’d debate Trump. Probably in September.
Debates don't mean shit. Ask Elizabeth Warren what winning one means.
None of those debates with Liz mattered. Not because of her. But because it was a half-dozen people yelling at and over each other, most of which had no shot at the nomination. But a one-on-one debate could hold water. I don’t think either Biden or Trump will win the election based on debates, but they could lose votes based off a horrible debate.
I suppose a falling down, stumbling debate performance might make a difference. But in general, it's likability. The results this week proves that yet again. Clintons was not better liked than Trump. Obama was well liked. Bush was, Bill Clinton was... etc.
Yes and yes. A falling down, stumbling debate performance is what I’m talking about possibly factoring in. And I agree that likability is a very important thing. That’s what hurt Liz and Bloomberg in the primary, and that’s what’s propelled Joe to where he’s at now.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I heard last night he flew to VT.
Could be to announce no more rallies til the virus cases come down. But how does he come back with no campaigning?
Seems like it's over, even on reddit.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Primary voters: "Today I say to Bernie Sanders: in order to win in the future, you need to win the votes who represent the future of our country, and you must speak to the issues of concern to them."
He should have been more "sound social reforms for the benefit of normal peoples lives, that other countries have to make their citizens lives better, more safe and more fair" and less "JOIN THE REVOLUTION, GRAB NEAREST SWORD AND LETS HEAD TO THE SWAMPS OF WASHINGTON FOR BLOOD"
Either way--one more debate prep for Joe.
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More than half the gains dating back to his inauguration are gone. He must be furious. Poor baby.
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read this whole thread. especially bernie supporters.
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