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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,242
    .mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MI called by CNN 30 minutes after the Lerxst News Network.
    Propaganda channel

    LNN is calling the general election now. Biden 278 electoral votes. Even with Putin helping Trump.
    Fair and balanced


    LNN is spitballing here. We are projecting MI turnout up 20% from Sanders win in 2016. That year in that state it was supposed to be ground zero of the Bernie movement.

    Biden is replicating the midterm vote. People are energized to vote trump out, especially in the suburbs.

    if the suburbs flip blue again, there is a solid chance trump is done. Unless he cancels the election due to the virus.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    .mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MI called by CNN 30 minutes after the Lerxst News Network.
    Propaganda channel

    LNN is calling the general election now. Biden 278 electoral votes. Even with Putin helping Trump.
    Fair and balanced


    LNN is spitballing here. We are projecting MI turnout up 20% from Sanders win in 2016. That year in that state it was supposed to be ground zero of the Bernie movement.

    Biden is replicating the midterm vote. People are energized to vote trump out, especially in the suburbs.

    if the suburbs flip blue again, there is a solid chance trump is done. Unless he cancels the election due to the virus.
    Yes he's wiping up in the suburbs,  the black vote and also with white working class.  He's showing real strength in the areas where Trump won as well.  It's a continuing story from last week.  
    Honestly it's astounding. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,009
    mrussel1 said:
    .mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MI called by CNN 30 minutes after the Lerxst News Network.
    Propaganda channel

    LNN is calling the general election now. Biden 278 electoral votes. Even with Putin helping Trump.
    Fair and balanced


    LNN is spitballing here. We are projecting MI turnout up 20% from Sanders win in 2016. That year in that state it was supposed to be ground zero of the Bernie movement.

    Biden is replicating the midterm vote. People are energized to vote trump out, especially in the suburbs.

    if the suburbs flip blue again, there is a solid chance trump is done. Unless he cancels the election due to the virus.
    Yes he's wiping up in the suburbs,  the black vote and also with white working class.  He's showing real strength in the areas where Trump won as well.  It's a continuing story from last week.  
    Honestly it's astounding. 
    But he’s “lost it.”
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    mrussel1 said:
    .mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MI called by CNN 30 minutes after the Lerxst News Network.
    Propaganda channel

    LNN is calling the general election now. Biden 278 electoral votes. Even with Putin helping Trump.
    Fair and balanced


    LNN is spitballing here. We are projecting MI turnout up 20% from Sanders win in 2016. That year in that state it was supposed to be ground zero of the Bernie movement.

    Biden is replicating the midterm vote. People are energized to vote trump out, especially in the suburbs.

    if the suburbs flip blue again, there is a solid chance trump is done. Unless he cancels the election due to the virus.
    Yes he's wiping up in the suburbs,  the black vote and also with white working class.  He's showing real strength in the areas where Trump won as well.  It's a continuing story from last week.  
    Honestly it's astounding. 
    But he’s “lost it.”
    No message... no coalition....
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    Is it a clean sweep for Biden tonight?
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,242
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    .mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MI called by CNN 30 minutes after the Lerxst News Network.
    Propaganda channel

    LNN is calling the general election now. Biden 278 electoral votes. Even with Putin helping Trump.
    Fair and balanced


    LNN is spitballing here. We are projecting MI turnout up 20% from Sanders win in 2016. That year in that state it was supposed to be ground zero of the Bernie movement.

    Biden is replicating the midterm vote. People are energized to vote trump out, especially in the suburbs.

    if the suburbs flip blue again, there is a solid chance trump is done. Unless he cancels the election due to the virus.
    Yes he's wiping up in the suburbs,  the black vote and also with white working class.  He's showing real strength in the areas where Trump won as well.  It's a continuing story from last week.  
    Honestly it's astounding. 
    But he’s “lost it.”
    No message... no coalition....


    "Turnout Explosion in Michigan"


    Take that trump.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    Bernie should throw in the towel now for the good of America. Start uniting the party.

    He has no path.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,305
    And his VP choice better be phenomenal.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018
    dignin said:
    And his VP choice better be phenomenal.
    Ladies and gentlemen.. my running mate, Barack Obama
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,009
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    And his VP choice better be phenomenal.
    Ladies and gentlemen.. my running mate, Barack Obama
    Michelle and then Sleepy “Woke” Joe can nap all day and let Michelle run everything and run on her own in 2024.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    And his VP choice better be phenomenal.
    Ladies and gentlemen.. my running mate, Barack Obama
    Michelle and then Sleepy “Woke” Joe can nap all day and let Michelle run everything and run on her own in 2024.
    I was just thinking about how electrifying it will be when the Obamas hit home campaign trail.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,009
    Sleepy Joe is WOKE, yo!
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:

    "Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"



    Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

    He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 
    Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.
    Why would it be dementia?

    To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.
    Senile sounds about right.
    Right on cue.

    https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA
    I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 
    Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?
    Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 
    You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


    Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.
    Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

    Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.
    So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

    I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

    Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate to run since Hillary
    Thank you. Establishment doesn’t see that in their fervor to destroy Bernie they are running another most qualified candidate to beat Trump. I mean just look at the polling data worked in 16.  The way I see it is Biden beats Bernie in the primaries but Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. i Hope I am wrong but it seems the DNC wants to make the same mistakes but justify themselves through every step this time around
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,009
    Ooooooo, we’re back to the big bad Establishment keeping Bernie down. But hey! How about that youth vote coming out in droves?!
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:

    "Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"



    Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

    He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 
    Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.
    Why would it be dementia?

    To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.
    Senile sounds about right.
    Right on cue.

    https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA
    I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 
    Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?
    Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 
    You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


    Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.
    Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

    Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.
    So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

    I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

    Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate to run since Hillary
    Thank you. Establishment doesn’t see that in their fervor to destroy Bernie they are running another most qualified candidate to beat Trump. I mean just look at the polling data worked in 16.  The way I see it is Biden beats Bernie in the primaries but Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. i Hope I am wrong but it seems the DNC wants to make the same mistakes but justify themselves through every step this time around
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,411
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    way early but does anyone else smell smoke?
    confirmed... 

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,610

    Andrew Yang endorses Joe Biden, and delivers message to Bernie Sanders supporters


    https://youtu.be/4TqsbMsIKvo
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    CM189191 said:
    So has Bernie complained about the establishment forcing Warren out of the race yet? Or is he waiting to complain, until after she doesn't endorse him?

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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,802
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    The horse race doesn't matter. Biden is going to be the nominee. Bernie's candidacy is over. Dems getting buyer's remorse as these primaries march on might not be the worst case scenario but it would be a bad one. . 
    It's just such a sad system that of all those people that declared themselves to be candidates, the one that's going to emerge has failed in two presidential runs, and is showing major signs of decline. Even sadder is that despite that, he probably does have the best chance to beat Trump. 

    It seems like the two best ways to become a major party nominee during my lifetime is to be a master politician like Bill Clinton, Obama, and Trump, or to simply hang around for a very long time like Dole, Kerry, McCain, and Hillary. And unfortunately, Biden falls into the second category. Here's hoping he gets a better outcome that than those four did. 
    Yeah, I don't know how to fix it but it does feel increasingly like our primary system is one more in a series that is beginning to fail. 
    it's seems easy to blame the system

    but voters only have a voice if they actually show up to vote

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    We need U, because Bernie’s not with US.
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    CM189191 said:
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    So has Bernie complained about the establishment forcing Warren out of the race yet? Or is he waiting to complain, until after she doesn't endorse him?


    Nathan needs a dose  of reality. The voters soundly rejected warren.


     
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    CM189191 said:
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    So has Bernie complained about the establishment forcing Warren out of the race yet? Or is he waiting to complain, until after she doesn't endorse him?


    Nathan needs a dose  of reality. The voters soundly rejected warren.


     
    Nice to see you still holding that Warren hate. 

    You should be thanking her.
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    Now, how does the Democratic Party go about bringing the dreamers to bay and to vote against The Orange Monster with meaning, by voting D, rather than try and burn the house down by not voting or voting for another party option like Green or Lib?

    I don't think it can happen.  Hope it does - going to need every voice to stand against the nightmare in order to end it.
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    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
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    "Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"



    Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

    He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 
    Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.
    Why would it be dementia?

    To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.
    Senile sounds about right.
    Right on cue.

    https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA
    I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 
    Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?
    Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 
    You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


    Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.
    Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

    Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.
    So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

    I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

    Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate to run since Hillary
    Thank you. Establishment doesn’t see that in their fervor to destroy Bernie they are running another most qualified candidate to beat Trump. I mean just look at the polling data worked in 16.  The way I see it is Biden beats Bernie in the primaries but Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. i Hope I am wrong but it seems the DNC wants to make the same mistakes but justify themselves through every step this time around
    There's no data that supports that conclusion.  Turnout surged in the states that Biden won.  He won in the suburbs, he won with the black community, middle age.  He crushed with women and ran even with white men. The demographics support the results.  It wasn't the "establishment", it was the Democratic voters. 
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    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    So has Bernie complained about the establishment forcing Warren out of the race yet? Or is he waiting to complain, until after she doesn't endorse him?


    Nathan needs a dose  of reality. The voters soundly rejected warren.


     

    I don't think Warren was rejected like Bernie was.  Warren was most people's second choice.  Ranked choice voting probably would have made her President. 

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