The 2008 New York Yankees

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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/21/sports/baseball/21pins.html?ref=sports

    Steinbrenner said Sunday by telephone. “There is no question about it, you don’t have a guy with a 100-mile-per-hour fastball and keep him as a setup guy. You just don’t do that.
    You have to be an idiot to do that.”
    .
    didn't the Steinbrenners hire Girardi? now he's an implied idiot

    didn't the Steinbrenners bash Torre on the way out?

    Who's watching the store?

    what does $1,167,684.431 get you over 7 years? ZERO championships :)
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,320
    NOCODE#1 wrote:
    didn't the Steinbrenners hire Girardi? now he's an idiot

    didnt the Steinbrenners bash Torre on the way out?

    Who's watching the store?

    what does $1,167,684.431 get you over 7 years? ZERO championships :)


    always good to be reminded of the 1980s with a steinbrenner sounding off like it's a bodily function..
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  • I have to agree with Hank SB. We need Joba as a starter. We really don't have an intimidating starter. The problem is that realllllly make the pen weak.
    Bruney,...maybe (hopefully) can take the spot, though he still can walk too many. Farnsworth,...haha. Hawkins has been horrible.
    PJ - 36
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  • maccimacci Posts: 1,057
    According to Cashman - Joba will be staying in the bullpen. Although I am not sure - if Ian Kennedy keeps pitching the way he has been, they need to do something.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Sorry-Boss-Cashman-says-Chamberlain-staying-in-?urn=mlb,78134
    My lips are shaking.......
  • if they move joba now, he'll reach his innings limit before the end of the season. it's best to wait.
  • maccimacci Posts: 1,057
    if they move joba now, he'll reach his innings limit before the end of the season. it's best to wait.

    Does he have a limit this year??
    My lips are shaking.......
  • macci wrote:
    Does he have a limit this year??

    yeah, it's around 140-150 but the team isn't releasing the exact number. he threw 116 innings last year.
  • if they make him a starter, then they better have him pitching the game i'm going to may 3.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,320
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,201
    I have to agree with Hank SB. We need Joba as a starter. We really don't have an intimidating starter. The problem is that realllllly make the pen weak.
    Bruney,...maybe (hopefully) can take the spot, though he still can walk too many. Farnsworth,...haha. Hawkins has been horrible.

    I heard about some of this on sports talk radio today about Hank Stienburger and Joba. I think Cashman is right, with a talent like Joba I'd rather have him as that middle relief star which leads you to Mariano9that combo is unstoppable). Most pitchers these days rarely pitch past the 7th. Many games are lost from the 6th to the 8th innings, here's where Joba is needed to stem the tide.

    Besides you can't just name Joba a starter and he starts. It's going to take several weeks to get his pitch count up to snuff. In the meantime the Yanks will be without the much needed middle relief and still no gaurantee he'll win games being that he's pitching only once every 5 days compared to Mid Relief and available every day.

    Good luck, Hank Stienburger is still a clown his facial look is one with a constant hemorrhoid problem.



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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,201
    Now it looks like Hank Stienburger is eating his own words. What a screw up.

    Peace
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Does Hank realize he's not the boss? he's not his dad? he's a cog in ownership?

    I heard on ESPN and i tend to agree, meddling owners became useless when sports turned from a million dollar industry to a billion dollar industry.
    example
    can anyone name the owner of the spurs?
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,201
    ....Some guy?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • NCBRINCBRI Posts: 1,902
    On the bright side: Wang/Pettitte are 7-1

    the negative of moving Joba to the rotation right away: you lose him from the big club for a while as he transitions and I think this puts more pressure on him. I'm sure they would have started him from the beginning, but his innings limit kept that from happening.

    the positive: Bruney looks like he could fill the role and I would be happy with Albaledejo and Veras in the pen. In fact there are several guys at Scranton who I think could step up and pitch out of the pen for the big club. The other big positive is that Joba has incredible upside as a starter and would be more valuable in that role. The other theory is that getting that transition over sooner rather than later could be beneficial.

    I would say IPK is on a short leash for now. If he doesn't start to pitch better soon, I think he will be sent down where he can be brought along a little bit slower and Rasner will get the call. I think Karstens will be back soon as well. Joba will get his chance eventually, but I think that the Yanks will stick with the plan they came into the season with.
    Brian
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,089
    Nice game by Moose
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  • yeah, nice job taking the first two with a bit of a short-staffed team. I love seeing Mussina pitch like that. I think if they work the schedule, and the opponent just right, they could get him to 15 wins. Just make sure he comes down with the flu when The Red Sox or Tigers are on the schedule. and get Giambi out of there. Curious move by Girardi, not pinch running for Giambi in the 9th. He's a slug on the basepaths, and a butcher at 1st, and a valuable insurance run. PR Gonzalez there, then send him to 3rd and shift Ensberg to 1B. Very surprised Girardi didn't do that, but it's a moot point anyway
  • NCBRI wrote:

    I would say IPK is on a short leash for now. If he doesn't start to pitch better soon, I think he will be sent down where he can be brought along a little bit slower and Rasner will get the call. I think Karstens will be back soon as well. Joba will get his chance eventually, but I think that the Yanks will stick with the plan they came into the season with.

    I like Karstens (the anti-Pavano, staying in the game after breaking his leg) a lot, but to this point, he seems to be a AAAA player. Too good for AAA, but not good enough for the majors.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,320
    I have no idea if this will translate in the majors but Darrell Rasner is off to a good start in the minors.

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    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • myhookmyhook Posts: 284
    Anyone listen to the Yanks on the radio? I am a HUGE Yankees fan but I can't take the radio broadcast anymore. I love Sterling, a little over the top but you got to love him. But between Suzyn Waldman and the never-ending sponsors I can't take it anymore.

    Waldman first, I will admit she knows her stuff. I will not argue that, but I just can’t stand her Boston accent and her unnecessary banter. Not to mentions she doesn’t shut up. But I can get past that, here is my real issue….

    I don’t know why but it drives me crazy when every 2 pitches there is a commercial. Between station breaks, and “the 15th out is brought to you by Geico….”. It seems like everything is sponsored now a days. I know this is petty but it drives me nuts. And also, why does everyone on the post game show get a gift certificate for a steak dinner? Jeter is making 20+ million this season, why is he getting a gift certificate for a steak dinner?
    Hey, you wouldn't hire a clown to fix a leak in the jon so why do you let these hooligans tear down the biz? YEEAAHHH. I don't care if he is Mr. Notorious BIG, can he croon?
  • bad move by Girardi there. You have to walk Crede to set up a double play, or a force at every bag at the least.
  • I think he should have left Hughes in after the rain too.
    I finally looked sharp. I know its a risky thing to do but floyd stayed in
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    EV - 5
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  • once bitten, twice shy. He left josh Johnson in the game in a similar situation with Florida, and Johnson eventually needed TJ surgery and hasn't pitched since 2006. There's no proof that that game had anything to do with it, but I'm sure he's very cautious about that now
  • maccimacci Posts: 1,057
    bad move by Girardi there. You have to walk Crede to set up a double play, or a force at every bag at the least.

    Yeah i was thinking the same thing........
    My lips are shaking.......
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,240
    What is up with Giradi banning candy from the clubhouse? Even on their away games they ask for opposing teams to take candy out of the clubhouses. they have been replaced with dried fruit and granola in an attempt to promote a healthier team.....

    Seems odd and interesting.
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  • maccimacci Posts: 1,057
    intodeep wrote:
    What is up with Giradi banning candy from the clubhouse? Even on their away games they ask for opposing teams to take candy out of the clubhouses. they have been replaced with dried fruit and granola in an attempt to promote a healthier team.....

    Seems odd and interesting.

    Not even Junior Mints!???

    I just read this article - maybe he thinks some of the Yanks have some extra pounds to shed.......
    My lips are shaking.......
  • Bruney is likely out for the year with a torn ligament in his ankle. I think Farnsworth screwed up his elbow last night. I havn't heard anything, but I've had a Tommy John feeling since watching him drop on the mound last night. That field was in bad shape, and it swalowed up at least one Yankee casualty, maybe 2. But hey, on the plus side, they won't have to play a doubleheader later in the year
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,089
    Bruney is likely out for the year with a torn ligament in his ankle. I think Farnsworth screwed up his elbow last night. I havn't heard anything, but I've had a Tommy John feeling since watching him drop on the mound last night. That field was in bad shape, and it swalowed up at least one Yankee casualty, maybe 2. But hey, on the plus side, they won't have to play a doubleheader later in the year

    Joba almost. That sucks for Bruney.
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    macci wrote:
    maybe he thinks some of the Yanks have some extra pounds to shed.......

    And he's right, look at a few of them ... Mind, its a tad unlikely that banning candy from the clubhouse will somehow make a huge difference to the team's overall performance.
  • myhook wrote:
    Anyone listen to the Yanks on the radio? I am a HUGE Yankees fan but I can't take the radio broadcast anymore. I love Sterling, a little over the top but you got to love him. But between Suzyn Waldman and the never-ending sponsors I can't take it anymore.

    Waldman first, I will admit she knows her stuff. I will not argue that, but I just can’t stand her Boston accent and her unnecessary banter. Not to mentions she doesn’t shut up. But I can get past that, here is my real issue….

    I don’t know why but it drives me crazy when every 2 pitches there is a commercial. Between station breaks, and “the 15th out is brought to you by Geico….”. It seems like everything is sponsored now a days. I know this is petty but it drives me nuts. And also, why does everyone on the post game show get a gift certificate for a steak dinner? Jeter is making 20+ million this season, why is he getting a gift certificate for a steak dinner?

    it's the only way i can hear the games during the week, i work at night. and what really sucks for me is the reception. there are no windows, so the AM reception is cut down, but around 8pm, the station cuts back on it's broadcast strength, so it's even more impossible to hear. i can hear them talking but don't know exactly what they're saying. but, if something happens during the game (a hit, a strikeout, end of inning summaries), sterling lifts his voice, so i can at least hear when something is going on and always get the score after the inning. it's a bit frustrating, but i've been listening like that for so long now, i'm really used to it.
    "Have you ever.........pooped a balloon?"
    ~D.K.S.
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