The 2008 New York Yankees
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I think he should get the $350 million 
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so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
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I'm serious.....
get him off my team please.
I thought the A in A-Rod stood for arena.....
but seriously, I don't want my team to fall to shambles...we need good hitters and we certainly need great pitchers...
also it seems any deal landing cabrera is going to have to involve at least one of the young pitchers probalby hughes or kennedy. I'd like to see if the yankees could keep them intact.
I love the idea of Joba, Hughes, & Kennedy forming anchoring a staff if they all end up being as good as advertised.
I could be sold on the idea of Joe Crede for 3b. I'd like to see us get rid of Damon. His weak arm is quite a hinderance and we have a log jam as it is at DH. Crede is solid defensively and good put up decent numbers.
That being said i would not mind seeing what Wilson Beitmet could do with a full years worth of AB's.
I read an article that said the yankees and mo are close and could close a deal for 40m for 3 years here pretty soon.
also read that the Mets are going to throw a lot of money at posada to try to lure him their way. hope he does not stray across town.
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Free-agent catcher Jorge Posada agreed Monday to a four-year, $52 million contract that will keep him with the New York Yankees.
A person familiar with the talks confirmed the deal to The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because the team didn't announce it.
The Yankees offered Posada the same deal they gave both Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui two years ago. The deal will be official after a physical and final contract language, the New York Daily News reported.
Posada, a five-time All-Star who is 36, has played for the Yankees his entire career. He has a .277 lifetime batting average. One of his best seasons came in 2007, when he hit .338 with 20 home runs and 90 RBIs.
New York also was trying to re-sign Mariano Rivera before Tuesday, when free agents could start talking money with all clubs.
"Mariano already has been given an improved offer, and Jorge's will be today," senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said earlier Monday. "We're kind of hoping to get an answer at least on one of the two tonight." Rivera, an eight-time All-Star, was in the Dominican Republic on Monday. Rivera, who turns 38 on Nov. 29, said Monday if he couldn't reach a deal with New York, he would consider following manager Joe Torre to the Los Angeles Dodgers. The closer is expected to receive a three-year contract.
"The Yankees are my first option," he said in Santo Domingo. "But if that is not possible, there is Joe with the Dodgers."
Steinbrenner said the Yankees still were trying to gauge what the Florida Marlins might want in a trade for All-Star third baseman Miguel Cabrera, who is being made available.
"We got a couple ideas, what they might be asking for, and it's a lot," Steinbrenner said. "I don't know what's going to happen there, but there's still plenty of time on that."
It's also far too early to determine whether the Minnesota Twins will attempt to trade two-time Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana, who can become a free agent after next season. Steinbrenner said the Yankees certainly would speak with the Twins if he becomes available.
"I think somebody would be foolish to say they have no interest in Santana," he said, "but it depends. It depends on what they're looking for."
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I'll take your concerns a step further. He will not repeat what he did in 2007, and he will be an albatross by the end of the contract. With that said, they need him next year if they hope to make a serious run, and I suppose they can afford to throw away money in a few years for short term production.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if I was a Yankees fan.
I've got a feeling that we'll be seeing Jorge playing a lot more as a DH - maybe not next year but the years that follow. I have to admit that I was shocked by the deal but I think part of it was done to increase the odds of re-signing Mo and getting Andy to pitch next year. If Jorge and Mo left then who knows how the clubhouse would react.
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it was a deal that the yankees had to make and one that they could afford to make. the young pitchers will benefit tremendously from having jorge behind the plate.
i totally agree. in my opinion they shouldn't have gone the 4th year, but honestly, they HAD to re-sign him and what is $13.1mil to the yanks?
for my red sox, varitek is up after next year and i would hope that they re-sign him but use some restraint in handing out an extra year or two on the deal.
$45mil/3 year deal offered to rivera. wonder if he'll take it. he'll be 38 on opening day. ouch. i like how hank just seems to have a take on everything and will talk to anyone who listens:
"He'd be by $4 million a year the highest-paid relief pitcher," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Tuesday. "To say that's a strong offer would be an understatement."
and
"The ball's in their court," Steinbrenner said. "If they still want to look for more somewhere else, that's up to them."
what is going to happen if the yanks start 2008 like they started 2007? i can see hank getting all fired up like the george of old.
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do you think its a done deal.....maybe perhaps he'd change his mind and re-sign with them.....
it all depends if Brian and Hank want to negotiate.
they were trying to get it done at three years, but posada demanded four and the yankees wanted to close the deal before he had a chance to talk to the mets. it's hard to say what would have happened if that meeting with the mets had taken place...
it's a little odd that rivera hasn't accepted the deal yet. nobody else is giving him more than $45 million. hopefully we'll hear something tomorrow.
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Also from Yahoo MLB Rumors:
A-Rod could return to Yanks for $230 million
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 7:30 am EST
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New York Daily News columnist Mike Lupica, quoting sources close to slugger Alex Rodriguez, wrote Wednesday that A-Rod may return to the New York Yankees.
Lupica wrote: There are people close to the player, closer than Boras right now, who believe he is ready to do it and do it soon. That he knows he's not going to break all the world's records the way he did when he went to Texas. That what the Yankees were fully prepared to offer, a deal that could have gone to a total value of $230 million over the next eight years, was the best one he was going to get.
Lupica added: It would mean Rodriguez has figured out that even Boras can over-promise sometimes and under-deliver, that there is no $350 million offer out there and was never going to be. More importantly, he realizes how much Boras damaged him and damaged him a lot by having him walk away from his Yankee contract without even giving the Yankees a chance to come to the table.
the mets would have gone 5 years if it meant stealing him from the yanks.
and i have no idea either why rivera hasn't run to his phone to call the yanks to accept.
is this "third party" or "friend" the same person that was telling the media that a-rod wanted to play for the red sox a week or two ago because he's buddies with manny and ortiz? there will always be an "apparently" type of rumor, but unless i see a hard quote from a-rod that says "i want to sign a contract with the yankees for 2008 and beyond" then you have to take it all with a grain of salt.
i mean, there is NO WAY that a-rod negotiates with the yanks brass without boras. never, never, never, never going to happen. boras is his agent to squeeze the last cent out and then try for more.
it appears you are wrong
the yanks wont negotiate with boras and have apparently stipulated that
the yanks will have to deal and/or negotiate with boras in one way, shape or form. boras will not simply take no for an answer and set aside or else he'll lose credibility.
A-rod can fire him and that would be the end of the story
Perhaps A-rod has finally learned that he will never be popular with the fans in any city or win a world series when he is getting paid that kind of money
kudos to the yanks for sticking to their guns
what a great story this would be if Boras gets fired and A-rod resigns with the yanks for a lot less money
1. a-rod will not fire boras.
2. a-rod wants to win a world series, he's just too dumb or blind to realize that it takes a T-E-A-M to win one and not just one highly overpaid superstar.
3. how, in any loose definition of "sticking to their guns" did the yankees stick to their guns? they said they would not re-sign a-rod if he opted out, yet they want to talk deal with him.
4. a-rod firing boras would be hilarious, but how is signing for an average of $27.5mil/year 'less money' when the yanks were paying him around $15-16mil/year thanks to the money the rangers were paying? by my calculations, $27.5mil is more than $22mil. so where the pay cut?
Really why do you say that? Boras has created a PR disaster. I can only imagine what the average new yorker has to say to Arod's face. If they are getting no bites then opting out was VERY BAD decision-one promulgated by Boras-that would be grounds for termination. The yanks did a great job of tuning the opt out around and it looks like there is some serious backlash to Boras' greediness. Maybe the owners collectively agreed to no longer deal with Boras' extortion techniques. There is a lot more to this than either you or I know.
sticking to their guns>>>>>refusing to negotiate with Boras
less money>>>> i simply said it would be a great story IF he signed for less money than he already had guaranteed- not that the rumors were for less
i totally agree that there is more to this than you or i will ever know unless a tell-all book comes out. and i totally agree that a-rod and boras opting out before the world series was even over was step one of a PR disaster. i hate boras, but you have to admit he is very smart and there is a reason for everything he does, so there has to be some slight truth to the $350mil number floating around. boras knows that he can't try and drive the price up that much if he doesn't have the yanks and their deep pockets involved.
ok, there's going to be a lot of math here.
before a-rod opted out...
the rumor was that the yanks were offering 5 years at $125-150mil.
a-rod had 3 years at $81/mil left on his contract.
for those 3 years, the rangers were giving the yanks $7mil/year or $21/mil total.
the yankees would be paying a-rod $20mil/year.
had the yankees and a-rod agreed to a 5 year, $125mil extension, they would have paid him $185mil for 8 years.
had the yankees and a-rod agreed to a 5 year, $150mil extension, they would have paid him $210 for 8 years.
so how is 10 years at a rumored $275mil less money? even at the high end rumor price ($210mil) that would put years 9 and 10 at an average salary of $32.5mil.
i simply said it would be a great story IF he signed for less money than he already had guaranteed- not that the rumors were for less