The 2008 New York Yankees

MyHandsBound

I think he should get the $350 million

The Champ

Wow, you must be more fucked up than I am, which is kinda hard to believe..

MyHandsBound

The Champ wrote:

Wow, you must be more fucked up than I am, which is kinda hard to believe..

naw I'm sober........:)

I'm serious.....

rival.

i think it's funny that the devils just spent $350 million on their new arena in newark, and here is AROD asking for the same amount of cash to play a fucking game.

get him off my team please.

MyHandsBound

singularity wrote:

i think it's funny that the devils just spent $350 million on their new arena in newark, and here is AROD asking for the same amount of cash to play a fucking game.

get him off my team please.

I thought the A in A-Rod stood for arena.....


but seriously, I don't want my team to fall to shambles...we need good hitters and we certainly need great pitchers...

intodeep

I'm not fond of Miguel Cabrera. Will he be able to play third base for a while? Seems to be some concerns with his physical conditioning.

also it seems any deal landing cabrera is going to have to involve at least one of the young pitchers probalby hughes or kennedy. I'd like to see if the yankees could keep them intact.

I love the idea of Joba, Hughes, & Kennedy forming anchoring a staff if they all end up being as good as advertised.

I could be sold on the idea of Joe Crede for 3b. I'd like to see us get rid of Damon. His weak arm is quite a hinderance and we have a log jam as it is at DH. Crede is solid defensively and good put up decent numbers.

That being said i would not mind seeing what Wilson Beitmet could do with a full years worth of AB's.

I read an article that said the yankees and mo are close and could close a deal for 40m for 3 years here pretty soon.

also read that the Mets are going to throw a lot of money at posada to try to lure him their way. hope he does not stray across town.

josevolution

he basically fucked himself out of the 350mill he is asking, no other team will come close to that amount he will play for less just not on the yankees ......

MyHandsBound

hip hip jorge....



Free-agent catcher Jorge Posada agreed Monday to a four-year, $52 million contract that will keep him with the New York Yankees.

A person familiar with the talks confirmed the deal to The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because the team didn't announce it.
The Yankees offered Posada the same deal they gave both Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui two years ago. The deal will be official after a physical and final contract language, the New York Daily News reported.

Posada, a five-time All-Star who is 36, has played for the Yankees his entire career. He has a .277 lifetime batting average. One of his best seasons came in 2007, when he hit .338 with 20 home runs and 90 RBIs.

New York also was trying to re-sign Mariano Rivera before Tuesday, when free agents could start talking money with all clubs.

"Mariano already has been given an improved offer, and Jorge's will be today," senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said earlier Monday. "We're kind of hoping to get an answer at least on one of the two tonight." Rivera, an eight-time All-Star, was in the Dominican Republic on Monday. Rivera, who turns 38 on Nov. 29, said Monday if he couldn't reach a deal with New York, he would consider following manager Joe Torre to the Los Angeles Dodgers. The closer is expected to receive a three-year contract.

"The Yankees are my first option," he said in Santo Domingo. "But if that is not possible, there is Joe with the Dodgers."

Steinbrenner said the Yankees still were trying to gauge what the Florida Marlins might want in a trade for All-Star third baseman Miguel Cabrera, who is being made available.

"We got a couple ideas, what they might be asking for, and it's a lot," Steinbrenner said. "I don't know what's going to happen there, but there's still plenty of time on that."

It's also far too early to determine whether the Minnesota Twins will attempt to trade two-time Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana, who can become a free agent after next season. Steinbrenner said the Yankees certainly would speak with the Twins if he becomes available.

"I think somebody would be foolish to say they have no interest in Santana," he said, "but it depends. It depends on what they're looking for."

intodeep

Interesting stuff on Jorge. I love jorge and i know he is a young 36 but giving a catcher a 4 year 52m deal can never be good in the long run. I have my doubts he will ever produce as well as he did this year again. That said i would hate to see him go elsewhere so i'm glad they showed him the money. If nothing else he deserves it for what he has done in the past for the yankees.

JSBE

$52.4 mil for 4 years to a 36 year old catcher coming off his best offensive year? not a good deal in my opinion. i obviously understand from the yankee perspective it was either give him the 4 years or lose him, but apparently the yanks do not learn from the mistake they made in signing johnny damon to a very similiar deal.

AstroFan

intodeep wrote:

Interesting stuff on Jorge. I love jorge and i know he is a young 36 but giving a catcher a 4 year 52m deal can never be good in the long run. I have my doubts he will ever produce as well as he did this year again. That said i would hate to see him go elsewhere so i'm glad they showed him the money. If nothing else he deserves it for what he has done in the past for the yankees.

I'll take your concerns a step further. He will not repeat what he did in 2007, and he will be an albatross by the end of the contract. With that said, they need him next year if they hope to make a serious run, and I suppose they can afford to throw away money in a few years for short term production.

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I was a Yankees fan.

natureboy46

AstroFan wrote:

I'll take your concerns a step further. He will not repeat what he did in 2007, and he will be an albatross by the end of the contract. With that said, they need him next year if they hope to make a serious run, and I suppose they can afford to throw away money in a few years for short term production.

I wouldn't have a problem with it if I was a Yankees fan.

I've got a feeling that we'll be seeing Jorge playing a lot more as a DH - maybe not next year but the years that follow. I have to admit that I was shocked by the deal but I think part of it was done to increase the odds of re-signing Mo and getting Andy to pitch next year. If Jorge and Mo left then who knows how the clubhouse would react.

oh, by clubhouse I mean the captain.

BetterManningNYG

alright, so the yankees will have a really expensive backup catcher (or 1B/DH) for about two years. that's fine. it still beats having wil nieves as the backup. and once he stops producing, he'll still bring a winning attitude into the clubhouse every day. so he's got pavano, giambi, kevin brown, and randy johnson beat.

it was a deal that the yankees had to make and one that they could afford to make. the young pitchers will benefit tremendously from having jorge behind the plate.

JSBE

BetterManningNYG wrote:

it was a deal that the yankees had to make and one that they could afford to make. the young pitchers will benefit tremendously from having jorge behind the plate.

i totally agree. in my opinion they shouldn't have gone the 4th year, but honestly, they HAD to re-sign him and what is $13.1mil to the yanks?

for my red sox, varitek is up after next year and i would hope that they re-sign him but use some restraint in handing out an extra year or two on the deal.

$45mil/3 year deal offered to rivera. wonder if he'll take it. he'll be 38 on opening day. ouch. i like how hank just seems to have a take on everything and will talk to anyone who listens:

"He'd be by $4 million a year the highest-paid relief pitcher," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Tuesday. "To say that's a strong offer would be an understatement."

and

"The ball's in their court," Steinbrenner said. "If they still want to look for more somewhere else, that's up to them."

what is going to happen if the yanks start 2008 like they started 2007? i can see hank getting all fired up like the george of old.

pjtradeking

I think they yankees will be mediocre at best next year. Either way, it will be without A-Rod

MyHandsBound

pjtradeking wrote:

I think they yankees will be mediocre at best next year. Either way, it will be without A-Rod

do you think its a done deal.....maybe perhaps he'd change his mind and re-sign with them.....

igotid88

MyHandsBound wrote:

do you think its a done deal.....maybe perhaps he'd change his mind and re-sign with them.....

it all depends if Brian and Hank want to negotiate.

BetterManningNYG

JSBE wrote:

i totally agree. in my opinion they shouldn't have gone the 4th year, but honestly, they HAD to re-sign him and what is $13.1mil to the yanks?

for my red sox, varitek is up after next year and i would hope that they re-sign him but use some restraint in handing out an extra year or two on the deal.

$45mil/3 year deal offered to rivera. wonder if he'll take it. he'll be 38 on opening day. ouch. i like how hank just seems to have a take on everything and will talk to anyone who listens:

"He'd be by $4 million a year the highest-paid relief pitcher," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Tuesday. "To say that's a strong offer would be an understatement."

and

"The ball's in their court," Steinbrenner said. "If they still want to look for more somewhere else, that's up to them."

what is going to happen if the yanks start 2008 like they started 2007? i can see hank getting all fired up like the george of old.

they were trying to get it done at three years, but posada demanded four and the yankees wanted to close the deal before he had a chance to talk to the mets. it's hard to say what would have happened if that meeting with the mets had taken place...

it's a little odd that rivera hasn't accepted the deal yet. nobody else is giving him more than $45 million. hopefully we'll hear something tomorrow.

xavier mcdaniel

apparently alex rodriguez wants to come back and is miffed at scott boras so says bill madden of the daily news on WFAN right now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/14/2007-11-14_yankees_look_to_bring_arod_back__on_thei.html

yosi1

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

apparently alex rodriguez wants to come back and is miffed at scott boras so says bill madden of the daily news on WFAN right now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/14/2007-11-14_yankees_look_to_bring_arod_back__on_thei.html

Also from Yahoo MLB Rumors:


A-Rod could return to Yanks for $230 million

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 7:30 am EST
Alex Rodriguez

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New York Daily News columnist Mike Lupica, quoting sources close to slugger Alex Rodriguez, wrote Wednesday that A-Rod may return to the New York Yankees.

Lupica wrote: There are people close to the player, closer than Boras right now, who believe he is ready to do it and do it soon. That he knows he's not going to break all the world's records the way he did when he went to Texas. That what the Yankees were fully prepared to offer, a deal that could have gone to a total value of $230 million over the next eight years, was the best one he was going to get.

Lupica added: It would mean Rodriguez has figured out that even Boras can over-promise sometimes and under-deliver, that there is no $350 million offer out there and was never going to be. More importantly, he realizes how much Boras damaged him and damaged him a lot by having him walk away from his Yankee contract without even giving the Yankees a chance to come to the table.

JSBE

BetterManningNYG wrote:

they were trying to get it done at three years, but posada demanded four and the yankees wanted to close the deal before he had a chance to talk to the mets. it's hard to say what would have happened if that meeting with the mets had taken place...

it's a little odd that rivera hasn't accepted the deal yet. nobody else is giving him more than $45 million. hopefully we'll hear something tomorrow.

the mets would have gone 5 years if it meant stealing him from the yanks.

and i have no idea either why rivera hasn't run to his phone to call the yanks to accept.