gun question.

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unsung wrote:

So what are you going to do if, God forbid, someone breaks into your house with the intent of killing you and raping and killing your wife and daughter?

I'd be curious to see some statistics on how likely this is to happen versus how likely it is that someone will break into your house to steal your gun.

unsung wrote:

Hope you can fight them off if there are more than one? What if there is only one and he has a gun?

I know at that very moment you would be wishing you still had a gun. Because you would know that you are going to die simply because you can't defend yourself and your family.

What if there it only one gun - yours - and he got to it before you did? I know at that very moment you would be wishing you didn't have a gun. Because you would know that you (or your family) are going to die simply because you made the decision to own a gun.

What if each of you had a gun and he shot you or your family only because he got spooked when he saw your gun?

I'd be curious to find out how often each of these scenarios happen versus how often your movie scene does.

Anon

Vince wrote:

Reminds me of this scene from Ghostbusters.

Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

oh snap

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5913636&postcount=2

flywallyfly

During the LA riots the only stores not looted and burned were the stores owned by Korean-Americans who simply showed that they had firearms and would use them if necessary. They didnt have to shoot anyone because even an idiot mob would rather rob the store next door with no guns shooting at them than risk getting shot. I'd rather be like the Korean store owners but that's just my opinion.

Collin

scb wrote:

I'd be curious to see some statistics on how likely this is to happen versus how likely it is that someone will break into your house to steal your gun.


What if there it only one gun - yours - and he got to it before you did? I know at that very moment you would be wishing you didn't have a gun. Because you would know that you (or your family) are going to die simply because you made the decision to own a gun.

What if each of you had a gun and he shot you or your family only because he got spooked when he saw your gun?

I'd be curious to find out how often each of these scenarios happen versus how often your movie scene does.

Exactly.

catefrances

in_hiding79 wrote:

Ummm, you shouldn't be coming into my house taking my nice ass TV that I worked HARD to buy! Your ass will be shot!

you better shoot my arse dead then girl cause if you dont i will beat skinny arse to a pulp.

dunkman

flywallyfly wrote:

During the LA riots the only stores not looted and burned were the stores owned by Korean-Americans who simply showed that they had firearms and would use them if necessary. They didnt have to shoot anyone because even an idiot mob would rather rob the store next door with no guns shooting at them than risk getting shot. I'd rather be like the Korean store owners but that's just my opinion.

what LA riots did you read about? its ok i know you wont read it but here goes anyway

http://www.asiasource.org/news/at_mp_02.cfm?newsid=79441

Ten years ago, Los Angeles, home to the largest Korean population outside of Korea, was overtaken by some of the worst scenes of civil unrest in recent history. Amidst the chaos, the Korean community became a prime target of violence as the riots revealed deep-seated racial tensions in one of the most multi-ethnic cities in America. This special report seeks to examine how the Korean-American community has been impacted by the LA riots and what efforts have been made to improve race relations in the area.

Hardest hit were the Korean small-business owners who owned shops in South Central LA and neighboring Koreatown. The residents of South Central, a mostly black neighborhood, long plagued by decades of unemployment, poverty, police brutality and lack of community development, struck out at their more entrepreneurial and successful Korean neighbors. The number of Korean-owned businesses in the area had consistently been growing, leading to a perceived sense of marginalization in the black community. Cultural and linguistic differences, as well as a highly publicized case of a Korean grocer shooting a young black girl, all fueled the growing tension which set the stage for devastation.

Some 2,000 Korean-owned businesses were completely destroyed in the riots and an estimated $400 million dollars of damage was done. Other signs reveal that the riots had a long-term impact on the Korean community.

writersu

acoustic guy wrote:

Perfectly said.

but also, "perfectly sad"..............


I just can't help but envision this though. In the middle of the night, I hear a noise too late and then have to fumble to unlock my gun, etc.?

I just think you would have to sleep with one under your bed and then the whole point is too "Escape From NY". Personally, I'd feel a lot safer having my own personal "Snake Plisken" next to me............




sorry, I am turning this into a romantic thread..............

flywallyfly

dunkman wrote:

what LA riots did you read about? its ok i know you wont read it but here goes anyway

http://www.asiasource.org/news/at_mp_02.cfm?newsid=79441

I stand corrected! Why wouldnt I read it?

Gonzo1977

I challenge any red-eyed speed freak to try and come into my home and try to rape my wife, my kids, my dogs.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

I challenge any street punk savage to try and take my wallet and try to steal my car.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

Look a me funny
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

Piss me off
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

He's got a gun too
I'll shoot

I'm shot
I'm dead

69charger

Gonzo1977 wrote:

I challenge any red-eyed speed freak to try and come into my home and try to rape my wife, my kids, my dogs.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

I challenge any street punk savage to try and take my wallet and try to steal my car.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

Look a me funny
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

Piss me off
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

He's got a gun too
I'll shoot

I'm shot
I'm dead

With proper training
and lot's of practice

I'd still be alive

Shouldn't have shot
the gun holding it sideways
punching as I pull the trigger

Proper stance
Center of mass

I'd still be alive

dunkman

I challenge any red-eyed speed freak to try and come into my home and try to rape my wife, my kids, my dogs.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

I challenge any street punk savage to try and take my wallet and try to steal my car.

I got a gun
I'll shoot
I got a gun
I'm safe

Look a me funny
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

Piss me off
I got a gun, I'll shoot

I'm Safe

He's got a gun too
I'll shoot

I'm shot
I'm dead

With proper training
and lot's of practice

I'd still be alive

Shouldn't have shot
the gun holding it sideways
punching as I pull the trigger

Proper stance
Center of mass

I'd still be alive

Lyrics and music Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold © 1999

Anon

69charger wrote:

With proper training
and lot's of practice

I'd still be alive

Shouldn't have shot
the gun holding it sideways
punching as I pull the trigger

Proper stance
Center of mass

I'd still be alive

Sorry to burst your bubble, but proper training and lots of practice is not going to stop you from getting your brains blown out when someone points his gun at you from afar or from behind you, or as you lay sleeping, or as you are driving along the street or when you don't haver your gun in your hand to start with....

Just saying...

in_hiding79

Commy wrote:

Well its fun to shoot guns, just not people I suppose. My Uncle let me shoot his AR15, basically an M16, and holy shit. All I can say. Holy shit.

THAT IS AWESOME!! :eek:

in_hiding79

catefrances wrote:

you better shoot my arse dead then girl cause if you dont i will beat skinny arse to a pulp.

hehehehehehhe

jeffbr

Pj_Gurl wrote:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but proper training and lots of practice is not going to stop you from getting your brains blown out when someone points his gun at you from afar or from behind you, or as you lay sleeping, or as you are driving along the street or when you don't haver your gun in your hand to start with....

Just saying...

It evens the playing field. If you feel more comfortable unarmed against an armed intruder, it is your right to throw up the white flag and be at his mercy. It is my right to defend myself and my family, and that will be my plan. Good luck with your plan.

Anon

jeffbr wrote:

It evens the playing field. If you feel more comfortable unarmed against an armed intruder, it is your right to throw up the white flag and be at his mercy. It is my right to defend myself and my family, and that will be my plan. Good luck with your plan.

It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.

Commy

Pj_Gurl wrote:

It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.

that's the bottom line of the republican party. FEAR.

jeffbr

Pj_Gurl wrote:

It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.

Great strategy. So because you can't account for all contingencies, it is best not to plan for any of them. If it works for you, that's great.

I don't live in fear. I don't carry a weapon. But if a situation presents itself and I have access to my firearm I'll definitely be using it.

jeffbr

Commy wrote:

that's the bottom line of the republican party. FEAR.

Both major parties use fear to get people to buy into their policies. You're nuts if you think it is a partisan issue.

Commy

jeffbr wrote:

Both major parties use fear to get people to buy into their policies. You're nuts if you think it is a partisan issue.

republicans think their neighbor wants to rape their family. Republicans think the country next door wants to invade. Republicans think illegal immigrants are stealing their jobs, that terrorists want to take their freedom. that gay marriage will send them to hell. that abortion is against god's will.

Its a fear based mentality, in every issue.


and that is the republican party.