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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    I challenge any red-eyed speed freak to try and come into my home and try to rape my wife, my kids, my dogs.

    I got a gun
    I'll shoot
    I got a gun
    I'm safe

    I challenge any street punk savage to try and take my wallet and try to steal my car.

    I got a gun
    I'll shoot
    I got a gun
    I'm safe

    Look a me funny
    I got a gun, I'll shoot

    I'm Safe

    Piss me off
    I got a gun, I'll shoot

    I'm Safe

    He's got a gun too
    I'll shoot

    I'm shot
    I'm dead

    With proper training
    and lot's of practice

    I'd still be alive

    Shouldn't have shot
    the gun holding it sideways
    punching as I pull the trigger

    Proper stance
    Center of mass

    I'd still be alive

    :)

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    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    69charger wrote:
    With proper training
    and lot's of practice

    I'd still be alive

    Shouldn't have shot
    the gun holding it sideways
    punching as I pull the trigger

    Proper stance
    Center of mass

    I'd still be alive

    :)
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but proper training and lots of practice is not going to stop you from getting your brains blown out when someone points his gun at you from afar or from behind you, or as you lay sleeping, or as you are driving along the street or when you don't haver your gun in your hand to start with....

    Just saying...
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Commy wrote:
    Well its fun to shoot guns, just not people I suppose. My Uncle let me shoot his AR15, basically an M16, and holy shit. All I can say. Holy shit.


    THAT IS AWESOME!! :eek:
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    you better shoot my arse dead then girl cause if you dont i will beat skinny arse to a pulp. :D


    hehehehehehhe ;)
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but proper training and lots of practice is not going to stop you from getting your brains blown out when someone points his gun at you from afar or from behind you, or as you lay sleeping, or as you are driving along the street or when you don't haver your gun in your hand to start with....

    Just saying...

    It evens the playing field. If you feel more comfortable unarmed against an armed intruder, it is your right to throw up the white flag and be at his mercy. It is my right to defend myself and my family, and that will be my plan. Good luck with your plan.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    jeffbr wrote:
    It evens the playing field. If you feel more comfortable unarmed against an armed intruder, it is your right to throw up the white flag and be at his mercy. It is my right to defend myself and my family, and that will be my plan. Good luck with your plan.
    It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.
    that's the bottom line of the republican party. FEAR.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    It doesn't even the playing field unless you walk around with your gun loaded at all times and 95 pairs of eyes attached to your body watching every move that everyone takes. Sorry, but i don't want to live like that.

    Great strategy. So because you can't account for all contingencies, it is best not to plan for any of them. If it works for you, that's great.

    I don't live in fear. I don't carry a weapon. But if a situation presents itself and I have access to my firearm I'll definitely be using it.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Commy wrote:
    that's the bottom line of the republican party. FEAR.

    Both major parties use fear to get people to buy into their policies. You're nuts if you think it is a partisan issue.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    jeffbr wrote:
    Both major parties use fear to get people to buy into their policies. You're nuts if you think it is a partisan issue.
    republicans think their neighbor wants to rape their family. Republicans think the country next door wants to invade. Republicans think illegal immigrants are stealing their jobs, that terrorists want to take their freedom. that gay marriage will send them to hell. that abortion is against god's will.

    Its a fear based mentality, in every issue.


    and that is the republican party.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And the Democrat party takes my money via taxation and gives funds to those illegal aliens that are breaking our laws. Plus if it were up to them the only people with guns would be the police. The crooks would still have them.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    unsung wrote:
    And the Democrat party takes my money via taxation and gives funds to those illegal aliens that are breaking our laws. Plus if it were up to them the only people with guns would be the police. The crooks would still have them.


    I see the dilemna. And also seem to notice that stated ideals from either party are very different from policies they implement. Seems big business serves both corporate parties and vice-versa. While the public 'debates' these discrepencies in their policies, it serves no purpose, as they do what they always do, and that is serve big business.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    jeffbr wrote:
    Great strategy. So because you can't account for all contingencies, it is best not to plan for any of them. If it works for you, that's great.

    I don't live in fear. I don't carry a weapon. But if a situation presents itself and I have access to my firearm I'll definitely be using it.
    Look, that's your right, you can do whatever you wish. All i'm saying is that i don't want to live that like. I couldn't shoot anyone. Period.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Commy wrote:
    agreed. I don't own any guns anymore. I had a shotgun and a handgun, but what's the point? I don't hunt anymore, and I could never shoot someone.

    I'm with you.

    I probably could never kill anyone, but I could easily shoot someone to protect myself and property. I'd shoot their knee or something though.
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  • For those who would rather die than protect what belongs to them.....I don't understand that. I'd rather live. Would I kill someone who is trying to put an end to that? You bet your ass I would, without hesitation. My life(or loved ones lives) means more to me than theirs. Sorry, that's just how I feel. Would I kill someone for any other reason than that, NO.

    Look, if you break into my home when I'm not there fine, you got me, I'll buy new stuff. But if you break into my house when I am home, I don't know what your intentions are and I'm not going to ask. You die.

    Would I steal food for my family? If all other options were gone, YES. I have other skills and live in an area that would allow me to provide food for my family(hunting & fishing). But people don't break into houses to steal food.

    My home is the only part of this world that I truly own. You can have the rest, but leave my part alone or suffer the consequences.
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but proper training and lots of practice is not going to stop you from getting your brains blown out when someone points his gun at you from afar or from behind you, or as you lay sleeping, or as you are driving along the street or when you don't haver your gun in your hand to start with....

    Just saying...

    Wouldn't protect me from a meteor strike either, what's your point?
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    69charger wrote:
    Wouldn't protect me from a meteor strike either, what's your point?
    Well...can you prepare for a meteor strike?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    therover wrote:
    For those who would rather die than protect what belongs to them.....I don't understand that. I'd rather live. Would I kill someone who is trying to put an end to that? You bet your ass I would, without hesitation. My life(or loved ones lives) means more to me than theirs. Sorry, that's just how I feel. Would I kill someone for any other reason than that, NO.

    Look, if you break into my home when I'm not there fine, you got me, I'll buy new stuff. But if you break into my house when I am home, I don't know what your intentions are and I'm not going to ask. You die.

    Would I steal food for my family? If all other options were gone, YES. I have other skills and live in an area that would allow me to provide food for my family(hunting & fishing). But people don't break into houses to steal food.

    My home is the only part of this world that I truly own. You can have the rest, but leave my part alone or suffer the consequences.

    I have no problem with people owning guns for protection, although I don't understand people who'd kill for a TV.

    It sickens me.

    That being said, what bothers me in posts like yours in the confidence. You have a gun, so that means the intruder dies.

    I'd hate to burst your bubble, but this is not a movie. It's reality. Yes, there is indeed a possibility that you will be able to murder the intruder first. However, it seems far more plausible that the intruder might sneak into your house at night, when you're sleeping. The intruder has an advantage. Furthermore, your training is a plus but don't forget that the other guy can easily be as good as you or even better (he's a criminal, he might be used to killing people).

    So, you can all sound tough and say "Come into my house uninvited and you'll die" that's all fine and dandy... just as long as you know it's just tough talk and not actually reality.

    Having a gun and proper training does not automatically mean you're safe, and it doesn't mean you'll be able to use your gun or your training when someone comes into your house.

    And, I'm sorry but the US is either the most violent fucked up land ever or you guys are all afraid...

    I know quite a few people who've had burglars into their homes. They were asleep, the burglars took their stuff. The next day they called the police and their insurance paid everything back. No need to kill a fellow human being. This was the case with all of them.

    Also, the majority of burglars here don't carry guns, because guns are not a part of our culture like in the US.

    Maybe the mixture of gun culture and materialism is the problem here. Because, like I said before, it completely sickens me that people would kill for a tv. Moreover, I think people who kill because of TV should be punished.

    I know this opinion won't be very popular... so shoot me :D
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    therover wrote:
    For those who would rather die than protect what belongs to them.....I don't understand that. I'd rather live. Would I kill someone who is trying to put an end to that? You bet your ass I would, without hesitation. My life(or loved ones lives) means more to me than theirs. Sorry, that's just how I feel. Would I kill someone for any other reason than that, NO.

    Look, if you break into my home when I'm not there fine, you got me, I'll buy new stuff. But if you break into my house when I am home, I don't know what your intentions are and I'm not going to ask. You die.

    Would I steal food for my family? If all other options were gone, YES. I have other skills and live in an area that would allow me to provide food for my family(hunting & fishing). But people don't break into houses to steal food.

    My home is the only part of this world that I truly own. You can have the rest, but leave my part alone or suffer the consequences.

    tis not that wed rather die. tis just that we value human life above possessions. a life is not worth a DVD or money or anything else thats disposable. human life is not disposable.
    if you broke into my home i would give you what you came for without hesitation. your life is worth more, my life is worth more and the lives of my children are worth more than anything that came with a price tag. tis that simple.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    tis not that wed rather die. tis just that we value human life above possessions. a life is not worth a DVD or money or anything else thats disposable. human life is not disposable.
    if you broke into my home i would give you what you came for without hesitation. your life is worth more, my life is worth more and the lives of my children are worth more than anything that came with a price tag. tis that simple.


    You paint a very Norman Rockwell-esque picture of robberies and thieves. I'm totally robbing your house and hoping I also get tea and toast while I'm there.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Gun Protection.
    From the gun, or from the person with the gun?

    To Feel Safe
    Do we really need guns to feel safe?

    To Hunt
    Do we really need guns to hunt?


    No different than Booze

    Some get drunk
    Some get stupid
    Some can handle it
    Some can't.

    It's all relative to you
  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Gun Protection.
    From the gun, or from the person with the gun?

    To Feel Safe
    Do we really need guns to feel safe?

    To Hunt
    Do we really need guns to hunt?


    No different than Booze

    Some get drunk
    Some get stupid
    Some can handle it
    Some can't.

    It's all relative to you

    I agree with you, but just like prohibition, it won't curb the problem.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    eyedclaar wrote:
    You paint a very Norman Rockwell-esque picture of robberies and thieves. I'm totally robbing your house and hoping I also get tea and toast while I'm there.

    I guess we just live in two different worlds (or three, I don't know about cate's wicked world). Here, thieves run if you turn on the light or make some noise. In the US they apparently rape the women and kill everyone afterwards.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    eyedclaar wrote:
    You paint a very Norman Rockwell-esque picture of robberies and thieves. I'm totally robbing your house and hoping I also get tea and toast while I'm there.

    oh im very well aware that there are different degrees of robber. but tha does not alter my stance.
    perhaps my mindset is different cause i live in a different society, i dont know. but it seems to me that a lot of people spout a lot of chest thumping bullshit. and thats fine in theory. but to say youll shoot any motherfucker that enters your home is being absolute about something you know nothing about unless youve experienced it before. its a hell of a thing killing a human being. i imagine cause ive not done it. and you have to be damn sure about what youre doing.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Collin wrote:
    I guess we just live in two different worlds (or three, I don't know about cate's wicked world). Here, thieves run if you turn on the light or make some noise. In the US they apparently rape the women and kill everyone afterwards.

    my wicked world?? LMAO!! :D
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    oh im very well aware that there are different degrees of robber. but tha does not alter my stance.
    perhaps my mindset is different cause i live in a different society, i dont know. but it seems to me that a lot of people spout a lot of chest thumping bullshit. and thats fine in theory. but to say youll shoot any motherfucker that enters your home is being absolute about something you know nothing about unless youve experienced it before. its a hell of a thing killing a human being. i imagine cause ive not done it. and you have to be damn sure about what youre doing.


    I'm just playing a little. I'm not one of the "I'd shoot any person who enters my house" kind of gun nut. If they were just there to steal something, I would control the situation and have them lay face down on the floor and wait for the cops to come get them. Now, if they were violent and I thought for one second my life or my wife's life was in real danger, that person is getting hurt really bad.

    Actually, I've had cops tell me that if I shoot someone inside my house, make sure I kill them so they can't testify against me.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I'm just playing a little. I'm not one of the "I'd shoot any person who enters my house" kind of gun nut. If they were just there to steal something, I would control the situation and have them lay face down on the floor and wait for the cops to come get them. Now, if they were violent and I thought for one second my life or my wife's life was in real danger, that person is getting hurt really bad.

    Actually, I've had cops tell me that if I shoot someone inside my house, make sure I kill them so they can't testify against me.

    seems like fair advice to me. :D
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    tis not that wed rather die. tis just that we value human life above possessions. a life is not worth a DVD or money or anything else thats disposable. human life is not disposable.
    if you broke into my home i would give you what you came for without hesitation. your life is worth more, my life is worth more and the lives of my children are worth more than anything that came with a price tag. tis that simple.


    Please post your address so I can come and take all of your stuff. Since I have no worries about anyone stopping me or shooting me it will be a free for all.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    tis not that wed rather die. tis just that we value human life above possessions. a life is not worth a DVD or money or anything else thats disposable. human life is not disposable.
    if you broke into my home i would give you what you came for without hesitation. your life is worth more, my life is worth more and the lives of my children are worth more than anything that came with a price tag. tis that simple.


    But I would think that you would call the cops. Cops have guns. And when the cops showed up, they would most likely point those guns at the burglars and shoot them if necessary.

    How is that any different from you pointing a gun at them and shooting them if necessary?
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