gun question.

the wolf

this came up between a few friends and myself this past weekend.


how many people are scared enough about whats going on in the world, and the U.S. right now with the market, the election and all to buy a gun?

it came up because the guys at the table next to us , one said he has always been against guns and all that , but was buying a few guns for protection because he thought the country was going to go to shit soon.

just got me thinking.

edit: after getting blasted for 9 pages. i have two friends in this unit in the army who just got back from iraq.
this comes from the Army Times site. not some conspiracy nuts site.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

CHANGEinWAVES

the wolf wrote:

this came up between a few friends and myself this past weekend.


how many people are scared enough about whats going on in the world, and the U.S. right now with the market, the election and all to buy a gun?

it came up because the guys at the table next to us , one said he has always been against guns and all that , but was buying a few guns for protection because he thought the country was going to go to shit soon.

just got me thinking.

wow

sponger

I posted the exact same intent here.

I've actually been considering it for about a year and half. This past couple of weeks it's really been on my mind.

My pops is special ops and has a serious fucking arsenal. I was thinking of calling him and asking him to lend me out some hardware.

I've never been much of a scaremongerer, but I have a really, really bad feeling about this. Actually, I've had this feeling for quite some time even before this meltdown started happening.

the wolf

sponger wrote:

I posted the exact same intent here.



I've never been much of a scaremongerer, but I have a really, really bad feeling about this. Actually, I've had this feeling for quite some time even before this meltdown started happening.

i'm pretty much in the same boat. i told my gf about a year ago i had a feeling things were going to get bad and get there fast.

she has always been very against us having a gun in the house, but i brought it up last week, and she didnt say she was cool with it, but she didnt put up a fight either.

i hate to think im giving in to the fearmongering, but i would also hate to be caught with my pants down too.

sponger

the wolf wrote:

i'm pretty much in the same boat. i told my gf about a year ago i had a feeling things were going to get bad and get there fast.

she has always been very against us having a gun in the house, but i brought it up last week, and she didnt say she was cool with it, but she didnt put up a fight either.

i hate to think im giving in to the fearmongering, but i would also hate to be caught with my pants down too.

It's going to be armageddon or martial law. That's my opinion.

the wolf

sponger wrote:

It's going to be armageddon or martial law. That's my opinion.

i've been reading about martial law all freaking day. i really think we could get there soon.

scary shit.

QuestionAuthority

No.. I will not be buying a gun.. the thought NEVER has entered my mind.

what exactly do you feel a gun is going to protect you from?

Do you honestly think it is going to come to that? And for that matter.. you are going to shoot someone if they.. what.. steal your box of Fruit Loops?

Sorry.. I would rather die than live in a world like that. Just me and my opinion.

sponger

QuestionAuthority wrote:

.. I would rather die than live in a world like that. Just me and my opinion.

We're all gonna die either way. Might as well go out blasting some foo's.

QuestionAuthority

sponger wrote:

We're all gonna die either way. Might as well go out blasting some foo's.

That is a real repulsive comment..

You are right.. we all are going to die.. it is a fact that no one gets out of here alive..

The thought of going out in a "blaze of glory" "blasting some foo's" is barbaric.

Good luck on that Karma..

the wolf

QuestionAuthority wrote:

No.. I will not be buying a gun.. the thought NEVER has entered my mind.

what exactly do you feel a gun is going to protect you from?

Do you honestly think it is going to come to that? And for that matter.. you are going to shoot someone if they.. what.. steal your box of Fruit Loops?

Sorry.. I would rather die than live in a world like that. Just me and my opinion.

im just saying there is a chance we could get there. things are changing overnight sometimes, and changing so fast we dont even realize.

and yes, if ML broke out, and myself and family were here, and someone tried to take what little food was available, yes, i would defend my family from starving.

MrBrian

I'm all for people having guns, as long as they know how to use them and are not crazy.

I also think a gun with a type of fingerprint recognition is a good idea. Perhaps in the future?

I also don't think that things will get so bad that you will need to carry a gun. But if it makes a person feel better, go ahead.

QuestionAuthority

the wolf wrote:

im just saying there is a chance we could get there. things are changing overnight sometimes, and changing so fast we dont even realize.

and yes, if ML broke out, and myself and family were here, and someone tried to take what little food was available, yes, i would defend my family from starving.

I am sorry that you feel you would need to defend you and your family for FOOD by killing another.

Sorry, like I said before.. if that was the world we lived in ~ go ahead kill me.. would rather not be alive than have to decide between a bologna sandwich and the life of another human.

Smellyman2

Booooo!!!

sponger

QuestionAuthority wrote:

I am sorry that you feel you would need to defend you and your family for FOOD by killing another.

Sorry, like I said before.. if that was the world we lived in ~ go ahead kill me.. would rather not be alive than have to decide between a bologna sandwich and the life of another human.

From your posts, you seem to be female. I apologize if I am wrong, but it just seems that way. You talk about your kids and you have a generally hyper-empathetical view.

Men are born with a sense of obligation to protect his family. That's something we can't shake. It comes from centuries of having to live that way. Sorry.

Jeanie

Perhaps before you think about getting a gun (and I'm not saying you shouldn't) you might like to make a plan about how best to survive should something like ML be declared?

I can understand your motivation. There have been a couple of times here in Australia when the thought has crossed my mind. When the gun buy back began here was one of those times. There was a lot of talk about us being invaded and being unable to defend ourselves. Of course there was a lot of hype and paranoia too. Also during the gas crisis here in Victoria in the late 90s when the stores were stripped of food and water and Army Disposal stores were doing a roaring trade. Things were very scary and uncertain and there were a lot of people considering guns and stockpiling supplies.

Maybe stockpiling supplies and having a safety plan is a good first step?
Think about the gun later? If you've not got one before now, and you've managed without it, I don't really see that one will be of much use to you in the future. Least that's been my experience when pondering the question.

The other thing that REALLY helps when things like this are happening is to go have a chat with someone or several people that survived The Great Depression. They're still here and they got through. Learning how they managed it is an education in survival in itself.

the wolf

QuestionAuthority wrote:

I am sorry that you feel you would need to defend you and your family for FOOD by killing another.

Sorry, like I said before.. if that was the world we lived in ~ go ahead kill me.. would rather not be alive than have to decide between a bologna sandwich and the life of another human.

im not even saying so much i would shoot someone for taking the food, im saying if they were to do us harm to get the food, yes i would.

have you ever seen pics, vids, or read stories from places that have gone into a police state after something goes wrong? we would be on our own for a few weeks if not months. there would be no food other than what you have in your house. stores would be looted, and there would be no shipments coming in. there would be NO law b4 any for of martial law could take effect. it would be chaos !! would it maybe get back to normal, yes i think so. but it would take time. i dont know about you, but i would want to make it through it to get back to that "normal" state.

im sorry you would not do WHATEVER it took to make sure your family and loved ones survived. i would.

sponger

Key thing to remember here is that hesitation is weakness, and weakness invites aggression. When it comes down to it, control your breathing and pick your targets.

catefrances

sponger wrote:

From your posts, you seem to be female. I apologize if I am wrong, but it just seems that way. You talk about your kids and you have a generally hyper-empathetical view.

Men are born with a sense of obligation to protect his family. That's something we can't shake. It comes from centuries of having to live that way. Sorry.

LMFAO!!!

sense of obligation. :rolleyes: man o man. try to get past me to my children and see how far you get.


have you people heard of self fulfilling prophesies? you all act like this and talk like this and it will end up like this. this isnt the god damn wild west.


honestly i cant be the only person on this board that finds this financial fall and subsequent reaction amusing can i?

dunkman

catefrances wrote:

honestly i cant be the only person on this board that finds this financial fall and subsequent reaction amusing can i?

nope.. i fail to see the correlation between 300 old fuckers losing billions of dollars worth of shares and the need to buy a gun

mind you if every one of these people buy a gun it may kickstart the economy again, more funerals to pay for, less strain on the welfare system.. hey these shotting folks might be on to something.... buy guns and shot a lot of each other... good times ahead?

personally, i'll just stay here in my castle and laugh at them, but thats just me.

Smellyman2

sponger wrote:

Key thing to remember here is that hesitation is weakness, and weakness invites aggression. When it comes down to it, control your breathing and pick your targets.

HAHAHA.

Go Bourne!

nothinghead

I think I understand the sentiment being expressed. I've considered purchasing a firearm in the past for personal protection, but I've never been able to convince myself that it is fully necessary. It's a topic I have spent some time rolling around in my head, and one I don't think I have fully come to my own conclusion on.

I don't really see martial law being declared as a result of economic down turn. Especially not country wide. And even still, if there's mass looting...might as well steal some firearms first. No sense in paying for them before hand right?