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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    acoustic guy wrote:
    My wife now knows how to use one first of all. And second that is a stupid reason not to own a gun. Don't own one because you might not be their to use it? Dumb.
    And if it did ever happen again, and I was home, my family would be protected.
    Screw me once, its your fault.
    Screw me twice, its mine.

    It's not a reason not to own a gun. It just shows how having a gun doesn't protect your family. I hear this as a reason for owning a gun all the time, your family's experience is a perfect example of how a gun often doesn't change anything at all.

    Even if you are home, a gun does not guarantee your safety in any way. I´m thinking an alarm system would probably keep your family a lot safer.
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Collin wrote:

    Even if you are home, a gun does not guarantee your safety in any way. I´m thinking an alarm system would probably keep your family a lot safer.

    I think it all depends on where you live also. I grew up in Johannesburg, at the peak of the crime burst.

    I lived in a home with Giant walls around it, a security system and gates, bars on the windows. We still had armed men break in and do whatever they did.

    no guarantees in anything....I don't like guns, even if I moved back to Joburg I probably would still not buy a gun. That's just me, but I know that it has helped many many people defend themselves and prevent rapes and murders.

    But do the dangers outweigh the benefits?....That I don't know,
  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Interesting subject and one in which a lot of pj pc folks have a very one-sided view of. I'm a total liberal but I was born into a family that owned a lot of guns. I also spend a lot of time in the back, back woods where some unsavory characters roam. My mom would have been murdered or raped one time if she hadn't stuck a pistol in these creeps' faces and forced them to get back into their truck and leave her alone.

    So, I own guns and have been trained on their proper use from an early age. I am comfortable around them. I do not live in fear. I don't worry about being attacked or having my wife attacked, however, I am prepared if I ever need to be. I keep weapons in reach but out of sight, especially when I'm in the mountains.

    I don't think the current times are any better reason to own a gun. In fact, I don't think most people are emotionally prepared for the responsibility of gun ownership and they certainly aren't very well trained on how to use them.

    I guess I just don't appreciate the stereotype associated with gun owners.
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    eyedclaar wrote:

    I don't think the current times are any better reason to own a gun. In fact, I don't think most people are emotionally prepared for the responsibility of gun ownership and they certainly aren't very well trained on how to use them.

    I guess I just don't appreciate the stereotype associated with gun owners.
    Interesting post.
    I think that people who own guns usually respect them and wait....
    I mean the people who I know respect them, not the thugs on the street. I grew up around them aswell and learned respect for them. Safety first. Their is now way my daughter could first find it, and second get a hold on it.
    For the record I am well trained. ;) BANG! Ouch!lol
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    acoustic guy wrote:
    Interesting post.
    I think that people who own guns usually respect them and wait....
    I mean the people who I know respect them, not the thugs on the street. I grew up around them aswell and learned respect for them. Safety first. Their is now way my daughter could first find it, and second get a hold on it.
    For the record I am well trained. ;) BANG! Ouch!lol

    I've been in the presence of about a million idiots who would tell you they are responsible and well-trained, but not by my definition. Like I've said before, at least half of all legal gun owners in this country ought to be pistol-whipped with their own guns.
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  • youngster
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    My wife and I both own guns----about 12 total. We are both trained and educated in gun safety and enjoy taking them to the range. We have a 1 year old son in the house so naturally ALL my guns are locked up, 10 in a safe in the cellar and 2 in a safe in our bedroom closet. I can't tell you what I would do if I woke up to someone in my house. I always ask myself, would I be coherent or awake enough to remember the combo to my safe and be able to get to my gun? Owning a gun doesn't make you anymore safe than not owning a gun, it just depends on the situation you happen to be in and if you have it at that particular time.
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  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    MY husband and I have two guns, one in the nightstand next to our bed and one in a very secret spot somewhere else in the house. WTF is wrong with wanting to protect WHAT IS YOURS?!?!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    eyedclaar wrote:
    I've been in the presence of about a million idiots who would tell you they are responsible and well-trained, but not by my definition. Like I've said before, at least half of all legal gun owners in this country ought to be pistol-whipped with their own guns.


    Not Me, I'm very well trained and have had a gun since I turned thirteen years old.
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    MY husband and I have two guns, one in the nightstand next to our bed and one in a very secret spot somewhere else in the house. WTF is wrong with wanting to protect WHAT IS YOURS?!?!
    depends on where you live. and if your willing to shoot someone for a tv.
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Commy wrote:
    depends on where you live. and if your willing to shoot someone for a tv.


    Ummm, you shouldn't be coming into my house taking my nice ass TV that I worked HARD to buy! Your ass will be shot! :D
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    Ummm, you shouldn't be coming into my house taking my nice ass TV that I worked HARD to buy! Your ass will be shot! :D
    I need a new tv damnit.
  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    It would be pointless for me to own a gun...I would never be able to pull the trigger and take a life.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    It would be pointless for me to own a gun...I would never be able to pull the trigger and take a life.
    Well its fun to shoot guns, just not people I suppose. My Uncle let me shoot his AR15, basically an M16, and holy shit. All I can say. Holy shit.
  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    Commy wrote:
    Well its fun to shoot guns, just not people I suppose. My Uncle let me shoot his AR15, basically an M16, and holy shit. All I can say. Holy shit.
    I can understand that, but there still would be no reason for me to own one and have it in my home.
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  • unsung
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    in_hiding79 wrote:
    MY husband and I have two guns, one in the nightstand next to our bed and one in a very secret spot somewhere else in the house. WTF is wrong with wanting to protect WHAT IS YOURS?!?!

    Don't you know somebody else might NEED it. They might need that money they would get selling to another of their loser friends. Maybe they are hungry. Maybe they need to fuel their crack habit. You should help them... hahahahahahahahahahaha sorry that is as far as I could go trying to keep a straight face and not laugh.

    YES my property is worth more than some scumbag drug addicts life, in fact if someone breaks into my house they deserve what is coming. If they get away with it now what's to stop them from doing it to my neighbor and then what happens if they kill my neighbor when I could have stopped it? I'd feel like it was all my fault.

    No I won't steal. PERIOD.

    Bottom line is if anyone breaks into my house they better have their affairs in order. I will not think twice about eliminating a threat to my personal safety.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    I can understand that, but there still would be no reason for me to own one and have it in my home.
    agreed. I don't own any guns anymore. I had a shotgun and a handgun, but what's the point? I don't hunt anymore, and I could never shoot someone.

    I'm with you.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So what are you going to do if, God forbid, someone breaks into your house with the intent of killing you and raping and killing your wife and daughter?

    Hope you can fight them off if there are more than one? What if there is only one and he has a gun?

    I know at that very moment you would be wishing you still had a gun. Because you would know that you are going to die simply because you can't defend yourself and your family.
  • Vince
    Vince Posts: 174
    Reminds me of this scene from Ghostbusters.

    Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
    Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?
    Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
    Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
    Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
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  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    Vince wrote:
    dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
    OH SHIT!!! I better get a gun! ;)
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  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    Vince wrote:
    Reminds me of this scene from Ghostbusters.

    Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
    Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?
    Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
    Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
    Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

    haha, great call on that one. If the Stay-Puft marshmallow man tried to fuck my shit up, I'd put one right in his eye.

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