do you think it's oki to teach children to play with guns?
i ask this because yesterday, a man and his son were in the store where i work. the boy wanted to run his dad's lottery ticket through the machine. i thought to myself, wow...these children are already being taught to accept that gambling itself is a way to nostalgia...
i bet you and other alpha figures in your life, hold similar images, only with hunting for food, and life sustinence (sp???)...
those who are against gun control, probably have some $ invested somewhere; they are not pinko's they are people who don't look beyond initial needs, perhaps even from suburbia where the idea of hunting and protecting yourself from harm's way is only but a legend.
keep to your system..you have always been kind....so i trust in your choices for yourself.
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1. All guns are always loaded! Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Follow these rules and you will always hit your intended target.
That's bullshit and you know it. If you don't, then YOU have no business ever handling a firearm.
That's bullshit and you know it. If you don't, then YOU have no business ever handling a firearm.
You follow those rules and you will 99.99999999999999% of the time hit your intended target. WTF is so hard to understand about that? You act as if guns just shoot willy nilly all over the place.
do you think it's oki to teach children to play with guns?
"Play" with guns? Not a big fan of letting childern shoot each other even with nerf guns. They are allowed to shoot at targets, but not at other people. Clearly water guns are fun and safe and my children definitely know the difference. Our kids know what 'real' guns are and have an extremely healthy attitude towards them. They are not curious about them and they ask to go to the range if they feel like going shooting. I think it's dangerous NOT to teach kids about firearms especially if you have a firearm at home.
i ask this because yesterday, a man and his son were in the store where i work. the boy wanted to run his dad's lottery ticket through the machine. i thought to myself, wow...these children are already being taught to accept that gambling itself is a way to nostalgia...
i bet you and other alpha figures in your life, hold similar images, only with hunting for food, and life sustinence (sp???)...
My Dad took me hunting earlier in life and I had mixed feelings about it. I had some horrible experiences watching animals die and I wasn't sure if hunting was a good thing. Later in life I rediscovered hunting and saw it as essential to healthy living and maintaing a healthy environment. I saw it as part of the natural order of things. I see most of our society as out of touch and unable to fend for themselves and I refuse to be counted as one of those people.
those who are against gun control, probably have some $ invested somewhere; they are not pinko's they are people who don't look beyond initial needs, perhaps even from suburbia where the idea of hunting and protecting yourself from harm's way is only but a legend.
Out of touch with actually living is how I see them. Sometimes I feel as if I should have been born 200 years ago. Things made sense and there was more of a natural order to things.
keep to your system..you have always been kind....so i trust in your choices for yourself.
You follow those rules and you will 99.99999999999999% of the time hit your intended target. WTF is so hard to understand about that? You act as if guns just shoot willy nilly all over the place.
First of all, guns DO shoot willy nilly all over the place - because that's how they are used in reality. I believe this conversation is about reality, not just your hypothetical ideal world.
You said you don't want to speak in hypotheticals and then made an extreme, absolute statement as if it was reality. I'm just saying it's not.
And you know this, which is why you keep qualifiying your original statement. It has gone from "You have complete control over who or what you hit" to "You have complete control over who or what you hit, if you follow these rules" to "Most of the time you have complete control over who or what you hit if you follow these rules".
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
First of all, guns DO shoot willy nilly all over the place - because that's how they are used in reality. I believe this conversation is about reality, not just your hypothetical ideal world.
You said you don't want to speak in hypotheticals and then made an extreme, absolute statement as if it was reality. I'm just saying it's not.
Look jackass, there are 200 million firearms in the US. If what you are proposing to be true was actually the way things are, then we should all be dead several times over!!!
And you know this, which is why you keep qualifiying your original statement. It has gone from "You have complete control over who or what you hit" to "You have complete control over who or what you hit, if you follow these rules" to "Most of the time you have complete control over who or what you hit if you follow these rules".
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
Nothing is impossible it's just that some things are extremely improbable. Just like your view of a person's inability to effectively control a firearm (which can be statistically proven false).
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
In my lifetime I have probably shot close to 40,000 rounds of ammunition through all sorts of different guns in all different types of situations. Never have I had a 'close call' or damaged anything that I didn't intend to damage (I did forget to put my earplugs in when shooting a rifle in 7mm STW and I will NEVER do that again! ).
I think you greatly overestimate the power of guns and I think you are scared of them to a large degree.
If others were as irresponsible as you claim, then you'd expect firearm homicides to be more than 0.0085% of the 200,000,000 firearms in the US, right?
You finally figured out the true purpose of this board! You are correct. It is my own personal playground.
Maybe they should be...
Buying a gun online is no different than buying one in a gun store. What's your point?
My point is that the worrying ease with which a firearm can be bought by any clown off the street is one of the reasons why people get shot. It's a fairly logical link. Not everyone who buys one knows what they're doing. Not everyone who buys one has any business owning one. Anyone can have a gun. I know for a fact that 3/4 of the people I know wouldn't have a clue what to do with a gun but if they were American they could walk into a shop and buy an assault rifle. The fact that this doesn't worry you, with your apparent expertise, is shocking to me.
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My point is that the worrying ease with which a firearm can be bought by any clown off the street is one of the reasons why people get shot. It's a fairly logical link. Not everyone who buys one knows what they're doing. Not everyone who buys one has any business owning one. Anyone can have a gun. I know for a fact that 3/4 of the people I know wouldn't have a clue what to do with a gun but if they were American they could walk into a shop and buy an assault rifle. The fact that this doesn't worry you, with your apparent expertise, is shocking to me.
There are several misconceptions apparent in this post, but no, it doesn't worry me. Crime rates in inner cities bother me and that needs to be addressed. That is the root of the problem.
U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies.
there are 200 million firearms in the US. If what you are proposing to be true was actually the way things are, then we should all be dead several times over!!!
I'm sorry - are you confused about what I am proposing?
Let me restate my point:
I am proposing that your statement, "You have COMPLETE CONTROL over who or what you hit" is false.
First of all, this is bullshit if nothing else than because your statement is so exreme & absolute.
Secondly, you've assumed that all the people with guns follow your rules. Everyone knows that's bullshit.
In the city where I live, many people still shoot guns into the air to celebrate New Year's and the 4th of July. You can't tell me that ANY of those people had complete control over who or what they hit.
And that's not to mention drive-by shootings, accidental discharge of firearms, people who just plain have bad aim, etc., etc...
Nothing is impossible it's just that some things are extremely improbable. Just like your view of a person's inability to effectively control a firearm (which can be statistically proven false).
I never said people can't effectively control firearms. I said they don't always control their firearms. Of course sometimes they do.
In my lifetime I have probably shot close to 40,000 rounds of ammunition through all sorts of different guns in all different types of situations. Never have I had a 'close call' or damaged anything that I didn't intend to damage (I did forget to put my earplugs in when shooting a rifle in 7mm STW and I will NEVER do that again! ).
I think you greatly overestimate the power of guns and I think you are scared of them to a large degree.
If others were as irresponsible as you claim, then you'd expect firearm homicides to be more than 0.0085% of the 200,000,000 firearms in the US, right?
Oh, please... :rolleyes:
I'm not afraid of guns. I used to own a gun. I grew up in the same kind of redneck, gun-totin' family that you seem to have. Just this weekend my dad's birthday party turned into a show-and-tell of everyone's concealed carry liscenses.
I'm not afraid of guns, but I am quite well aware of what damage they can do. And I take it seriously, and I value life. I have seen, smelled, and touched, up close and personal, many people who have been shot to death.
You say you take it seriously but you don't act like you do. As I believe someone has already pointed out, you don't come across as being mature enough to own a gun. And evading legitimate questions, making extreme statements, calling people names, and accusing everyone who even slightly disagrees with you of being afraid of guns surely doesn't help your case.
U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies.
My bad
and has the highest gun death per capita rate among the richest nations in the world. really is something to be proud of.
What a travesty... This is the start of the article....
In 2000, 174 children (0-18) in the United States died from unintentional firearm-related injuries. Unintentional injuries are usually caused when children play with guns or are hunting.....
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I've built two. First was a 24" Stainless in .223 and the other was a Beowulf 50.
Nice. I just did my first a RRA .223. It was so much fun and turned out so well that I bought four receivers for future use. Since the receiver is the only part the feds care about I can build the rest later, and Mr. Obama can't do anything about it.
I am now also in the market for a pre-ban Colt and I need a newer HK 93 to replace one I sold.
You forgot that unsung went and bought three more, and loads of ammo including centerfire rifle ammo.
Plus I ordered four receivers last week for new AR builds. I also bought five new hi-cap mags.
you could just buy viagra... it'd be a shitload cheaper... although i see you prefer to shoot a different kind of load.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I just saw on CNN that assault weapon sales have tripled this month? I'm not sure why.
Gun sales in general are up... It probably has a lot to do with groups like the NRA and the right wing radio crowd foaming at the mouth about the false fear of Obama taking away guns.
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Obama's words and actions fuel that fire, the NRA only spreads the message.
The NRA supports gun shows like the one in Massachusetts this weekend where an 8 year old boy was allowed to fire an Uzi. The recoil from this fully automatic weapon caused the gun to fire into his head, killing him. Then the NRA has the nerve to defend this senseless death, citing their great "Safety Record". This is insane. It is like teaching your 8 year old to shoot heroin. The NRA sucks.
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do you think it's oki to teach children to play with guns?
i ask this because yesterday, a man and his son were in the store where i work. the boy wanted to run his dad's lottery ticket through the machine. i thought to myself, wow...these children are already being taught to accept that gambling itself is a way to nostalgia...
i bet you and other alpha figures in your life, hold similar images, only with hunting for food, and life sustinence (sp???)...
those who are against gun control, probably have some $ invested somewhere; they are not pinko's they are people who don't look beyond initial needs, perhaps even from suburbia where the idea of hunting and protecting yourself from harm's way is only but a legend.
keep to your system..you have always been kind....so i trust in your choices for yourself.
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
That's bullshit and you know it. If you don't, then YOU have no business ever handling a firearm.
You follow those rules and you will 99.99999999999999% of the time hit your intended target. WTF is so hard to understand about that? You act as if guns just shoot willy nilly all over the place.
"Play" with guns? Not a big fan of letting childern shoot each other even with nerf guns. They are allowed to shoot at targets, but not at other people. Clearly water guns are fun and safe and my children definitely know the difference. Our kids know what 'real' guns are and have an extremely healthy attitude towards them. They are not curious about them and they ask to go to the range if they feel like going shooting. I think it's dangerous NOT to teach kids about firearms especially if you have a firearm at home.
My Dad took me hunting earlier in life and I had mixed feelings about it. I had some horrible experiences watching animals die and I wasn't sure if hunting was a good thing. Later in life I rediscovered hunting and saw it as essential to healthy living and maintaing a healthy environment. I saw it as part of the natural order of things. I see most of our society as out of touch and unable to fend for themselves and I refuse to be counted as one of those people.
Out of touch with actually living is how I see them. Sometimes I feel as if I should have been born 200 years ago. Things made sense and there was more of a natural order to things.
Ditto, you are sweet and always sincere.
First of all, guns DO shoot willy nilly all over the place - because that's how they are used in reality. I believe this conversation is about reality, not just your hypothetical ideal world.
You said you don't want to speak in hypotheticals and then made an extreme, absolute statement as if it was reality. I'm just saying it's not.
And you know this, which is why you keep qualifiying your original statement. It has gone from "You have complete control over who or what you hit" to "You have complete control over who or what you hit, if you follow these rules" to "Most of the time you have complete control over who or what you hit if you follow these rules".
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
Look jackass, there are 200 million firearms in the US. If what you are proposing to be true was actually the way things are, then we should all be dead several times over!!!
Nothing is impossible it's just that some things are extremely improbable. Just like your view of a person's inability to effectively control a firearm (which can be statistically proven false).
mm...accidental...
In my lifetime I have probably shot close to 40,000 rounds of ammunition through all sorts of different guns in all different types of situations. Never have I had a 'close call' or damaged anything that I didn't intend to damage (I did forget to put my earplugs in when shooting a rifle in 7mm STW and I will NEVER do that again!
I think you greatly overestimate the power of guns and I think you are scared of them to a large degree.
If others were as irresponsible as you claim, then you'd expect firearm homicides to be more than 0.0085% of the 200,000,000 firearms in the US, right?
0.0116185% of the 200,000,000 firearms in the US.
Hardly an epidemic.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States.
There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
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I call it good tactics!
There are several misconceptions apparent in this post, but no, it doesn't worry me. Crime rates in inner cities bother me and that needs to be addressed. That is the root of the problem.
U.S. citizens own 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms, according to the Small Arms Survey 2007 by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies.
My bad
Did you seriously just call me a jackass? Good grief. :rolleyes: If you get that worked up that easily, you probably shouldn't own a gun.
I'm sorry - are you confused about what I am proposing?
Let me restate my point:
I am proposing that your statement, "You have COMPLETE CONTROL over who or what you hit" is false.
First of all, this is bullshit if nothing else than because your statement is so exreme & absolute.
Secondly, you've assumed that all the people with guns follow your rules. Everyone knows that's bullshit.
In the city where I live, many people still shoot guns into the air to celebrate New Year's and the 4th of July. You can't tell me that ANY of those people had complete control over who or what they hit.
And that's not to mention drive-by shootings, accidental discharge of firearms, people who just plain have bad aim, etc., etc...
I never said people can't effectively control firearms. I said they don't always control their firearms. Of course sometimes they do.
Oh, please... :rolleyes:
I'm not afraid of guns. I used to own a gun. I grew up in the same kind of redneck, gun-totin' family that you seem to have. Just this weekend my dad's birthday party turned into a show-and-tell of everyone's concealed carry liscenses.
I'm not afraid of guns, but I am quite well aware of what damage they can do. And I take it seriously, and I value life. I have seen, smelled, and touched, up close and personal, many people who have been shot to death.
You say you take it seriously but you don't act like you do. As I believe someone has already pointed out, you don't come across as being mature enough to own a gun. And evading legitimate questions, making extreme statements, calling people names, and accusing everyone who even slightly disagrees with you of being afraid of guns surely doesn't help your case.
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What a travesty... This is the start of the article....
In 2000, 174 children (0-18) in the United States died from unintentional firearm-related injuries. Unintentional injuries are usually caused when children play with guns or are hunting.....
Wow... and those are all from just todays news... Holy crap!
You forgot that unsung went and bought three more, and loads of ammo including centerfire rifle ammo.
Plus I ordered four receivers last week for new AR builds. I also bought five new hi-cap mags.
WOW. You really are trying to over compensate for SOMETHING, huh?
You drive a real big truck too, baby?
I'm only planning ahead. Nope, I drive a Jeep. But it is lifted.
You sir, ROCK!
I've built two. First was a 24" Stainless in .223 and the other was a Beowulf 50.
Guns don't kill people; people pointing guns at people and then shooting those guns kills people.
Chris Rock on gun control
Nice. I just did my first a RRA .223. It was so much fun and turned out so well that I bought four receivers for future use. Since the receiver is the only part the feds care about I can build the rest later, and Mr. Obama can't do anything about it.
I am now also in the market for a pre-ban Colt and I need a newer HK 93 to replace one I sold.
you could just buy viagra... it'd be a shitload cheaper... although i see you prefer to shoot a different kind of load.
Gun sales in general are up... It probably has a lot to do with groups like the NRA and the right wing radio crowd foaming at the mouth about the false fear of Obama taking away guns.
was like a picture
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