gun question.

eyedclaar

know1 wrote:

Probably not always, but I'd rather err on the side of not killing someone.

Fair enough. I'd rather not shoot anyone, but if a person tries to harm my family or someone I care about, that person is getting taken out one way or another. I have no ethical qualms with hurting or killing someone if they put me in a situation where I have to save someone I love.

know1

eyedclaar wrote:

Fair enough. I'd rather not shoot anyone, but if a person tries to harm my family or someone I care about, that person is getting taken out one way or another. I have no ethical qualms with hurting or killing someone if they put me in a situation where I have to save someone I love.

I'd have to be 100% sure the person was actually murdering someone before I'd use lethal force...and even then as a last resort.

After all, the penalty for assault isn't death (and I do not believe in the death penalty anyway).

QuestionAuthority

sponger wrote:

From your posts, you seem to be female. I apologize if I am wrong, but it just seems that way. You talk about your kids and you have a generally hyper-empathetical view.

Men are born with a sense of obligation to protect his family. That's something we can't shake. It comes from centuries of having to live that way. Sorry.

Yes I am a female and proud to be.

I really do not know how to take the whole "hyper-empathetical view" comment.. but I will take it as a compliment, as I think having empathy is one of the best qualities a person can have.

Please do not give me the whole arguement that because you are a man you have some kind of instilled notion that you must protect your family with a gun. My children's father protects his family.. yet we have never had guns in our home.. nor is this something he has ever thought of having to have either to protyect our children.. the home I grew up in never had guns.. and I never felt unsafe once with my father and his gun-less home.

I guess I am not a fearful person... I dont think life should be wasted worrying about such things.. as we have already established that no one gets out of her alive.. LIVE LIFE.. dont fear it!

QuestionAuthority

Found some perfect lyrics for this thread from this little group named Pearl Jam...



Got a gun, fact I got two
That's ok man, cuz I love god
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed

Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun

Don't think, dumb is strength
Never shot at a living thing
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Feels so manly, when armed

Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a pellet gun
Glorified version of a...

Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded
Always keep it loaded

Kindred to be an American...

Life comes...I can feel your heart...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Life comes...I can feel your heart through your neck...
Like some...I can steal your heart from your neck...

Glorified...glorified...

nuffingman

nothinghead wrote:

No, I think it's more of a the minute the government takes extensive measures to control a population prone to over reaction and occasional poor judgment the answer might be to buy a gun.

surely, someone who would lament Americans wanting to own guns would also lament the pitiful job the American government does in times of crisis, yes?

I agree with the "pitiful job your government does in times of crisis" ours is no better but i can't see that buying guns helps a serious situation, only worsens it. If 2 people come to blows about something it may end up with you having a fat lip but if you both have guns!!!!

OffHeGoes29

69charger wrote:

Both are horrible suggestions. What good is a gun for self defense if it is locked away. The worst thing you can do is to "hide" a gun away from kids. Educate them on how to safely use firearms and instill an absolute respect for what they are capable of. We take our kids to the gun range and let them shoot. They have lost all curiosity regarding firearms and understand that we'll take them to the range when they ask. My goal is to even teach them basic gunsmithing skills so they become even more educated.

You go ahead though and see what comes of "forbidden fruit".

Good Times!

True. I grew up with gun education as well, but I still wouldn't trust kids around them regardless. I know plenty of adults that own weapons that shouldn't because of thier irresponsible personalities, let alone a kid.

I had my 12 gage loaded, locked up in a gun case with a combo lock to get at it when if I ever needed it.

Smellyman2

proof America is becoming more retarded everyday....


this thread.

the wolf

Smellyman wrote:

proof America is becoming more retarded everyday....


this thread.

Poof ! get bent ! its obvious that its something that should be discussed. real people are talking about this shit everyday. newsweek was going to do a cover story not long ago called " how to survive martial law in america" but of course, decided not to run the story.

and calling something retarted is very immature and to be honest, quite insensitive.

Cosmo

Guns are for pussies.
...
You don't need to point a gun at me... if you are in need... all you have to do is ask. if you already have... and feel you need more... that's you... being an asshole. If you have to kill me to take what is mine... that's between you and your God.

acoustic guy

the wolf wrote:

this came up between a few friends and myself this past weekend.


how many people are scared enough about whats going on in the world, and the U.S. right now with the market, the election and all to buy a gun?

it came up because the guys at the table next to us , one said he has always been against guns and all that , but was buying a few guns for protection because he thought the country was going to go to shit soon.

just got me thinking.

I did not read others posts but I am 100% sure that many in here are against guns. I own three.
I rather have them and not need them, then need them and not have them. When I lived in Atlantic City before I was married I had some serious shit go down in my back yard with the cops and some thugs so right after that I bought my first one. Then, after being married a man broke into my home and was hiding in it when my wife came home. I was at the gym. Thank god she left shortly after and he only stole a few things and ran out. After that I bought another. The other is one I bought b/c I like it.
Its not gonna happen again to me or my family.

acoustic guy

Cosmo wrote:

Guns are for pussies.

Please, you are lost. Read my other post.

acoustic guy

the wolf wrote:

Poof ! get bent ! its obvious that its something that should be discussed. real people are talking about this shit everyday. newsweek was going to do a cover story not long ago called " how to survive martial law in america" but of course, decided not to run the story.

and calling something retarted is very immature and to be honest, quite insensitive.

Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.

writersu

I am afraid of guns although I get the point why someone would want to have one. Hell, the people you would want to protect yourself from would have one, so why not?

I only shot one once, when my friend's then boyfriend was a security guard and he and I went to a shooting range.

I grew up watching Charlie's Angels and the 90 lb women shooting guns like they were little tiny things, "Ping, Ping!" as they ran and shot some more. Well, when I did shoot finally, it was bizarre that it had such a big kick back that my arm went up pretty dramatically.

I guess I am more afraid that my kids will get it or that I will shoot myself accidently.

what makes you feel more afraid now? that you would want a gun?

acoustic guy

writersu wrote:

I am afraid of guns although I get the point why someone would want to have one. Hell, the people you would want to protect yourself from would have one, so why not?

Perfectly said.

the wolf

acoustic guy wrote:

Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.

no shit, we are being plain ol' ignorant to think that it couldnt happen here.

Cosmo

the wolf wrote:

no shit, we are being plain ol' ignorant to think that it couldnt happen here.

...
I'm going to join the Army.

Cosmo

acoustic guy wrote:

Please, you are lost. Read my other post.

....
Who the hell was talking to you?
Wasn't me.

Smellyman2

the wolf wrote:

no shit, we are being plain ol' ignorant to think that it couldnt happen here.

yeeeehaaaawwww

Wolf and Acoustic Guy kick ass!!!

catefrances

acoustic guy wrote:

Don't worry Wolf, we will see who will be ass raped and homeless if the shit ever hits the fan. It has happened in many many many other countries....i think we are do.

please name these countries. and then tell me how they compare to the united states of hysteria

unsung

Might as well buy up what you can because if Obama gets his way you will have to stop the attackers from raping your wife by asking them to stop and negotiate first.

I'm already loaded up, simply because I like guns. I would not hesitate in defending my property from some thug who thinks it is his right to steal from me. 'Foo' got another thing coming. I worked for what I have, I'm certainly not going to let some society reject take something from me. Besides if they are out robbing homes I don't think too many people will complain that they are gone.

I have the right to defend my family and my property.