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  • DE4173
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    DE4173 said:

    Still got a ways to go before hitting bottom! 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,805

    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    So you think Trump's immigration laws will/should have an effect in Canada as well? This is a weird train of thought. Trump is a fucking moron, and it's appalling he's considering a loophole to take away birthright citizenship of Indigenous in the US. But I'm not sure what that has to do with people born in Canada. 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,805
    edited January 28
    "If you're a criminal, you'll be deported. If you plan to enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught and sent back just went up. The actions I'm taking are not only lawful, they're the kinds of actions taken by every single Republican president and every single Democratic president for the past half century." - President Barack Obama
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    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    DE4173 said:
    "If you're a criminal, you'll be deported. If you plan to enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught and sent back just went up. The actions I'm taking are not only lawful, they're the kinds of actions taken by every single Republican president and every single Democratic president for the past half century." - President Barack Obama
    🤔

    do note the criminal qualifier.  saying nothing about lawful asylum seekers.
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,805
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    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    This is a very nuanced topic, but I really dislike this line of thought.  I mean, this can just keep going on and on and on.....

    I agree with Obama.  Starting today, enter illegally?  Get caught and sent out.  Commit a crime and here illegally or even waiting for asylum decision?  Get caught and sent out.

    Do that and then see where we stand.   See about programs with path to citizenship...but require path to citizenship or be sent out.

    Can't go against the constitution unless you change it....and in reality, times have changed and it would be appropriate to review and change the constitution in some ways.  But follow the standard until you change the standard.


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    This is a very nuanced topic, but I really dislike this line of thought.  I mean, this can just keep going on and on and on.....

    I agree with Obama.  Starting today, enter illegally?  Get caught and sent out.  Commit a crime and here illegally or even waiting for asylum decision?  Get caught and sent out.

    Do that and then see where we stand.   See about programs with path to citizenship...but require path to citizenship or be sent out.

    Can't go against the constitution unless you change it....and in reality, times have changed and it would be appropriate to review and change the constitution in some ways.  But follow the standard until you change the standard.



    and if congress actualkly would do their fucking job and be the co-equal branch they are supposed to be , we wouldn't be here now.
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    mickeyrat said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    This is a very nuanced topic, but I really dislike this line of thought.  I mean, this can just keep going on and on and on.....

    I agree with Obama.  Starting today, enter illegally?  Get caught and sent out.  Commit a crime and here illegally or even waiting for asylum decision?  Get caught and sent out.

    Do that and then see where we stand.   See about programs with path to citizenship...but require path to citizenship or be sent out.

    Can't go against the constitution unless you change it....and in reality, times have changed and it would be appropriate to review and change the constitution in some ways.  But follow the standard until you change the standard.



    and if congress actualkly would do their fucking job and be the co-equal branch they are supposed to be , we wouldn't be here now.
    Very true.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,805
    mickeyrat said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    This is a very nuanced topic, but I really dislike this line of thought.  I mean, this can just keep going on and on and on.....

    I agree with Obama.  Starting today, enter illegally?  Get caught and sent out.  Commit a crime and here illegally or even waiting for asylum decision?  Get caught and sent out.

    Do that and then see where we stand.   See about programs with path to citizenship...but require path to citizenship or be sent out.

    Can't go against the constitution unless you change it....and in reality, times have changed and it would be appropriate to review and change the constitution in some ways.  But follow the standard until you change the standard.



    and if congress actualkly would do their fucking job and be the co-equal branch they are supposed to be , we wouldn't be here now.
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    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • hunterh75
    hunterh75 Posts: 122
    mickeyrat said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    This is a very nuanced topic, but I really dislike this line of thought.  I mean, this can just keep going on and on and on.....

    I agree with Obama.  Starting today, enter illegally?  Get caught and sent out.  Commit a crime and here illegally or even waiting for asylum decision?  Get caught and sent out.

    Do that and then see where we stand.   See about programs with path to citizenship...but require path to citizenship or be sent out.

    Can't go against the constitution unless you change it....and in reality, times have changed and it would be appropriate to review and change the constitution in some ways.  But follow the standard until you change the standard.



    and if congress actualkly would do their fucking job and be the co-equal branch they are supposed to be , we wouldn't be here now.
    I don't think they have ever actualkly done anything, lol.....hopefully some more illegal criminal immigrants will get deported today. Law abiding immigrants coming in legally are more than welcome. Good day fellers
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited January 28
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spunkie said:
    If only he would take it a step further and send back all the white European colonizers too...
    I would imagine they’re long dead. 
    Oh shoot you're right.

    I meant to say white send back all the white European occupiers, too!  Ya, you
    I was born here. 
    Trump getting rid of that rule isn't he? Just saying it's pretty ironic he wants to get rid of all newer immigrants...not the euro boat ppl descendants tho... Like if he took it a step further thatd mean all y'all white people
    So basically everyone leave except native Americans?
    And which tribes? Because they all stole land from each other too. 
    Is there a country on the planet that is currently governed by the original inhabitants? Why is America so different that it makes us bad that the majority of people here aren't the ones who were here 1000 years ago?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,549
    Because we don't learn our lesson and keep absolutely shitting on groups of people as if we have been here forever and always, all the while barely acknowledging that we do it rather than saying, he man, everyone's cool and we learned our lessons from mistakes of the past so lets share this land and be the land of opportunity for all. 


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,549
    to be clear, I agree its silly to just boot all non indigenous people. I'm just saying I get why America is held to different standard.
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,334
    FiveBelow said:
    pro gun is such a psychotic view. I mean, that's like calling pro-women's rights "pro abortion". 
    I have periodically over the years tried to explain to forced birthers why no one is "pro-abortion." They never get it.

    Now apply this same logic to stances on border security. Is it blatant xenophobia like one side of our precious duopoly paints it out to be, or for the vast majority, could it merely just be security concerns? 

    It is pure xenophobia under the guise of "border security". Whipped up by the great conspiracy theory and dogwhistle machine that is the rightwingosphere and republican politicians grifting every dumbass who believs all of the bs.

    Every last person worried about "border security" only cares about the southern border. They don't care or mention the nothern border or god forbid all the white people coming in illegally at international airports.

    Nope its just all the brown people with funny names swimming across the Rio Grande.

    From my personal point of view is there a border problem? Sure. Always has been. With nothern and southern borders as big as ours this is inherent.
    But I know that just as many, if not more, "security threats' get in at International Airports. You don't  ever see red state governors sending their taxpayer funded national guard to the nothern border or to Kennedy Airport or O'Hare or Dulles.

    Just the southern border.

    I’m shocked someone didn’t question your example of actually speaking for, not only the majority, but every last person.

    You and I both know which border has been viewed as the greater security risk, history of its activity and our governments actions to curb it speak for themselves. We’ll just have to disagree that xenophobia is the driving force behind the average American’s security concerns, unless you can somehow prove this to be unequivocally true. Simply repeating a political party’s rhetoric doesn’t suffice. 


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