Immigration

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

It wasn’t a compliment. 

And there it is. Shade and attack and trolling and zero interest in politely exchanging ideas.

I took the high road to their comment by treating it seriously and you go low. 

Again and again and again and again.

Think of the arrogance it takes to assume I didn’t understand the Maher comment directed towards me.

I take words at face value. Just trying to help a guy out. 

you know you are not telling the truth. You know you are trying to do the exact opposite of what your words say to score political points in a safe space for you at the expense of someone else. Not exactly courageous and there is little chance you behave like this IRL.

But if I were to say you were lying, I’d be breaking rules, or meeting you on your level.

HughFreakingDillon

Blaming Palestinians for their own “self-genocide” (your words) ✅ 
Excusing russia invading ukraine, and preposterously, blaming American democrats for it ✅ 
Pro deportation of green card holders that don’t share your views ✅ 
Blaming those who voted Kamala for the election of Trump ✅ 
Othering those who disagree with you (foreigners, those overseas) ✅ 
Attacking others endlessly and baselessly with “anti-semite” and “racist” when they disagree with your stance ✅ 

Sorry, your Victim card has been revoked. Your Good Faith card has been revoked. Your Be Taken Seriously card has been revoked. 

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

It wasn’t a compliment. 

And there it is. Shade and attack and trolling and zero interest in politely exchanging ideas.

I took the high road to their comment by treating it seriously and you go low. 

Again and again and again and again.

Think of the arrogance it takes to assume I didn’t understand the Maher comment directed towards me.

I take words at face value. Just trying to help a guy out. 

you know you are not telling the truth. You know you are trying to do the exact opposite of what your words say to score political points in a safe space for you at the expense of someone else. Not exactly courageous and there is little chance you behave like this IRL.

But if I were to say you were lying, I’d be breaking rules, or meeting you on your level.

100% I thought you thought it was a compliment. I don’t assume anything. 

HughFreakingDillon

Scoring political points in a safe space? Wtf does that even mean? Maybe that’s your bag, but I’m just here for the free donuts. 

Kat

You can only talk about each other here.
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/306643/talk-about-each-other-here#latest

Just give your opinion on the subject and discuss and debate politely, please. That's the back and forth of a discussion forum. Stick to the topic. Easy. 

Gern Blansten

Lerxst1992 said:

tbergs said:

Forum Bill Maher right now.

Bingo and thank you

five years ago I stopped watching his show because I thought it was wrong to blame the Democratic Party for the extremism and wokeness on the left. 

Since then Biden and liberals proved me wrong. I started watching his show again after trump won four months ago and basically learned why we lost, without the nonsense arguments and attacks from the left. 

here is Bill on the View, politely debating with some very liberal women, none of whom dispute what he has to say. A much more adult discussion than what is capable on amt when moderate views are shared. Quote him and prove him wrong with facts. See if this place is capable to politely debate.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1X-j09o1M

Bill is still liberal as hell. I'm really interested to hear him talk about his visit with trump next Friday. He said he wasn't going to talk about it until his show aired.

Bill is also one of the funniest stand up comedians I have ever seen.

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at this point, I don’t even know what you’re advocating for other than just wanting to fight with a couple of posters here.

almost every comment I post gets trolled from someone overseas and someone else that thinks war is a joke (or that it’s my fault for wanting the countries to negotiate a treaty) and the “fight” is my fault. The personal attacks here are endless. Mentioning the rules gets mocked. But it’s me. Remember all the moderate Dems that used to comment here who rarely do anymore?

This forum has responded to trump by moving extremely to the far left, which is no way to reach purple and lean red states for senatorial and electoral votes. That’s the extend of my political passion. Almost all articles and ideas posted here are representative of far left views and often omit significant facts. Say anything contrary gets you a personal attack.

the “fake news “ posted on amt is astounding. Most posts here, if not all ,  regarding  (the original immigrant story) Khalils detainment claimed he broke no laws and he has the exact same rights keeping his visa as citizens. there is significant fallacy there and omission of facts in that view. Bringing that up here causes arguments and personal attacks.

I mean, this place doesn't move any needle. Yes, I do wish every post would be fair and include all relevant information for better discussion, but also, we don't get that in the broader world. I will say you approach the discussions here with better faith than other posters who are no longer with us pushing back on more progressive polocies.

Puh-leeze. Every time I countered his pro-genocide stance he would all-caps me “STOP SPREADING YOUR HATE ON AMT!! WHERE ARE THE MODS??”. 

Every time I explained what DEI realky is, he called me a fucking racist. 

Every single response in disagreement is somehow a personal attack. 

We’re all anti-semites. 

Better faith my ass. 

Prior to about a month ago I posted on the Gaza problem almost exclusively about wanting a treaty negotiation.

that was met with endless attacks that I personally support genocide and and apartheid. That is textbook personal attack. Which you also did in two separate comments above, when I was explicitly attempting to politely debate. 

on DEI, you mocked me for my friends reality. You provided whataboutisms for why this occurred. Made up possible reasons because you can’t comprehend your views could cause harm

On Israel … getting shouted down here  with personal attacks not to scale is considered anti semitism. Go and try to figure out what happened at the tufts protests, the school where the Turkish student was detained. Not sure what is more antisemitic- The lack of media attempting to highlight the facts of what happened at that protest or the Jews that got spit on and were forced to leave the student vote under threats of violence.

maher is the perfect comparison. I have as much skin in that topic as he does, an Irish dude from New Jersey. I am only commenting on the horrors that some on the left have become over the past few years.

Kat

Closed for now. This topic is IMMIGRATION. Take personal arguments off the forum, please.