He didn't want to hear Kerry's response. Kerry tried twice to answer but the bitch kept yelling and whining.
He totally brought it on himself. It was completely staged. Some of you are so blind in your hatred of 'The Man' that you can't see when you're being taken for a ride.
No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.
that is not the issue. the issue is the cops abusing their authority, which in this case they clearly did. just another example of us turning into a police state and everyone is ok with it.
what was the kid gonna do to them, swing the book at them? give me a break.
you may approve of cops acting like this, but i think its totally over the line. they did not even read him his rights before tasing him.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.
Based on your theory the next 3rd grader that doesnt act his age deserves to be tasered.
the kid's behavior was overblown and paranoid. he should have focused more on one or two questions/issues, and let Kerry respond. even Alex Jones' site said he was "histrionic", which is hilarious given the source.
however, NO NEED whatsoever to taser the dude. yes, he resisted arrest, but he was not a threat to anyone. in one video, the female cop says he was "inciting a riot". gimme a fucking break. the police's behavior was much worse than his.
that is not the issue. the issue is the cops abusing their authority, which in this case they clearly did. just another example of us turning into a police state and everyone is ok with it.
what was the kid gonna do to them, swing the book at them? give me a break.
you may approve of cops acting like this, but i think its totally over the line. they did not even read him his rights before tasing him.
I think you're bordering on the same hysteria that the dipshit in the video demonstrated.
I have a general distrust for government, authority, cops, etc... I am anti-tax, anti-social services, anti-police-state. But I am also anti-stupidity. That fucking guy could have stopped the escalation any time he chose.
Again, show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered, and I'll be up in arms. I'll join you in moral outrage.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I like at 1 min 50 when the one cop pulls a gun on him. He was ready to lay him down permanently.
Should be an interesting police report....subject said "skull and bones"...was combative and then resisted arrest...was subsequently piled onto by multiple officers, promptly handcuffed then tasered. Victory. Freedom.
We also think he had slept at a holiday inn last night, and had wheaties the following morning for breakfast.
lol...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
He wasn't just talking, he was disrupting a public event. At some point that becomes disturbing the peace. The kid was not interested in Kerry's response (although I would have been). He started talking, and wouldn't shut up. Even after Kerry said he'd answer the questions he'd start yelling and creating a disturbance.
If any of you think he acted with decorum and respect, let me know. I'd like to stay away from you at public meetings.
someone can get tasered for being disrespectful? wow!
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
i took a college course with one of the most reknowed and important socialist thinkers of our time- John Bellamy Foster.
His son was friends with a high school kid who was killed by police.
My professor said this: If my house was broken into, i would let the burgular kill me before I called the police"
I agree.
Police are monsters.
Its the only profession where you can kill people, and not be punished.
"Killing and brutalizing citizens daily" should be their motto
A bunch of strong big men! They murder a black man over a WALLET people!
Did the people who beat rodney king really need to beat him?
Police are pigs.
I am glad i gave florida police a call. They deserve to be called what they really are. They arent heroes. they are killers.
Wow they are so cool, they tasered an unarmed man! Wow daddy I want to be a police officer!
but that's overgeneralizing dude... this is a little too much man. it ain't like some huge conspiracy. now don't get me wrong... i don't support cops who do this. but there are good decent cops out there who are trying to "protect and serve" the community.
heck... wanna say something nice about a cop? ok. i was driving 84 mph on a construction zone and a 65 speed limit with no proof of insurance in katie texas. a cop stopped me and passed me off with a warning... all he asked me is why i was speeding. i said i had a meeting with a girl... a date, mind you. he asked for proof of insurance.... i didn't have it but i told him it was under my sisters. the dude calmly just passed me off with a warning. and said, "just drive safe, ok?"
you gotta understand that cops are people too.... trying to do their jobs the best they can. yeah, sometimes they mess up... just like any other human individual would. some cops are crooks.... some are not. you can't overgeneralize the situation.
see.... when you look at it at a perspective without holding any sides you begin to realize that people tend to go from one extreme to the other. cops aren't ALWAYS going to be justified by their actions.... but at the same time cops aren't ALWAYS going to be "pigs" or "killers".
no... i don't agree that the cops should've tased the dude.... but albeit... i don't think they had any other clue of how to deal with the situation.
i still get pissed at cops for many reasons. here in austin... in the last 4 years or so they have killed about 9 unarmed black and hispanic males... no older than 25 and all were done by white cops. yeah, it's a big deal here too.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
I think you're bordering on the same hysteria that the dipshit in the video demonstrated.
I have a general distrust for government, authority, cops, etc... I am anti-tax, anti-social services, anti-police-state. But I am also anti-stupidity. That fucking guy could have stopped the escalation any time he chose.
Again, show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered, and I'll be up in arms. I'll join you in moral outrage.
there's been thousands of situations/cases where someone's not creating a situation and gets tasered.... or much worse, get shot and killed. you're what you would call a pretty stupendous ignoramaus if you haven't figured that one out.
point in case, come to austin... i'll give you about 9 or so of these cases.
hell, you wanna hear one different one? not exactly the same... but here's what happened. a few months ago we had a lot of rain here in austin... so some areas got pretty flooded. there was this hispanic lady who tried to pass a closed road with her child because of flooding. a sheriff caught her trying to pass so he took her in for putting her child in danger. guess how many years the judge wanted to give her? 10 years. fuckerifficabillysuperridiculous! good thing people protested and told the judge to get his head out of his ass... cause that's pretty messed up. so the judge reduced the sentence to something like 2 years probation and 10 years community service or something like that.
i'll try to find you the link... it was kinda a long time ago... but i'll see if i can find it.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
are you all joking? I've been to a lot of conferences and if all the people that went over the maximum time would have been taken away by the police (and I'm neither talking about being tasered), conferences would be empty.
If someone gous out of time they take him away the mic, eventually, but being arrested is pure fascism and repression.
are you all joking? I've been to a lot of conferences and if all the people that went over the maximum time would have been taken away by the police (and I'm neither talking about being tasered), conferences would be empty.
If someone gous out of time they take him away the mic, eventually, but being arrested is pure fascism and repression.
No kidding... armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.
Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious.
It keeps getting worse as we go along...
It's epidemic.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It could have been a simple procedure of letting him listen to Kerry's response.
He was being obnoxious and acting like a highschooler (before they took him away too). Did you hear the entire audience clap as he was being taken away? He was probably acting immature the whole time and people and the cops were fed up. It said he had a history of taping his practical jokes, did nobody read that part that's defending this tool? Just listen to the way he asked his questions, he didn't give a shit about the answer, just wanted attention. Look at his website. He was acting this way for attention and now he's getting it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
He was being obnoxious and acting like a highschooler (before they took him away too). Did you hear the entire audience clap as he was being taken away? He was probably acting immature the whole time and people and the cops were fed up. It said he had a history of taping his practical jokes, did nobody read that part that's defending this tool? Just listen to the way he asked his questions, he didn't give a shit about the answer, just wanted attention. Look at his website. He was acting this way for attention and now he's getting it.
is it enough to arrest him? Prisons would be super full, if people acting immature could be arrested for that
there's been thousands of situations/cases where someone's not creating a situation and gets tasered.... or much worse, get shot and killed. you're what you would call a pretty stupendous ignoramaus if you haven't figured that one out.
Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
point in case, come to austin... i'll give you about 9 or so of these cases.
hell, you wanna hear one different one? not exactly the same... but here's what happened. a few months ago we had a lot of rain here in austin... so some areas got pretty flooded. there was this hispanic lady who tried to pass a closed road with her child because of flooding. a sheriff caught her trying to pass so he took her in for putting her child in danger. guess how many years the judge wanted to give her? 10 years. fuckerifficabillysuperridiculous! good thing people protested and told the judge to get his head out of his ass... cause that's pretty messed up. so the judge reduced the sentence to something like 2 years probation and 10 years community service or something like that.
i'll try to find you the link... it was kinda a long time ago... but i'll see if i can find it.
Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).
Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....
for about a month........hehehehe
You sound like a really cool guy...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).
Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
I think that tasers have lulled the police into thinking it is completely safe and they are using it in situations that dont demand that kind of forceful reaction.
when the police stop upholding the constitution,when they have a blatant disregard for our rights then they become the "enemy".so you can either fight back or submit and become a slave of the police state.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....
for about a month........hehehehe
someone should taser your nut sack.ooops,i meant vagina.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
my issue is the criteria people are using to justify the tasering of this guy...
it seems some, and I have to included you here, think that being a dick, or a tard, or bugging out or acting "way over the top" is enough to taser someone...
yes, he was screaming and yelling. yes, he did not follow directions, however, for me, that does not justify the police putting hands on him, and then tasering him, while on the ground, subdued, with cops all over him...
and some have said people "clapped" as he was lead away...I guess mob rule is in place... well they quickly became quiet when the tasering happened...
listen, I understand what you're saying, and I see your point, I just respectfully disagree that he "had it coming"....heck, when the Code Pink ladies are spouting off, they drag them out and move on...perhaps precedent is set...taser anyone who won't stop talking....kinda scary, huh...
Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).
Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
"Obnoxious" behavior or "promoting" oneself is not against the law. I don't agree with you that this is what the guy was doing, however, even it it was, the cops are way out of line. For you to say that these are the kinds of things that deserve arrest and tasing tells me you are as fascist as the pigs that administered the tasing.
my issue is the criteria people are using to justify the tasering of this guy...
it seems some, and I have to included you here, think that being a dick, or a tard, or bugging out or acting "way over the top" is enough to taser someone...
yes, he was screaming and yelling. yes, he did not follow directions, however, for me, that does not justify the police putting hands on him, and then tasering him, while on the ground, subdued, with cops all over him...
and some have said people "clapped" as he was lead away...I guess mob rule is in place... well they quickly became quiet when the tasering happened...
listen, I understand what you're saying, and I see your point, I just respectfully disagree that he "had it coming"....heck, when the Code Pink ladies are spouting off, they drag them out and move on...perhaps precedent is set...taser anyone who won't stop talking....kinda scary, huh...
That's cool. I also respect and completely understand your position. I have gone back and forth about this one. The reason I find myself on the other side of the issue at this point is that he wasn't merely tased for being obnoxious. He was asked to leave for being obnoxious. Once he started moving toward the front of the venue, the cops really started clamping down on him. Then he started thrashing around and resisting. He escalated it from a simple outburst like you mentioned with the Code Pink ladies to something involving a physical altercation. At that point all bets are off.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
"Obnoxious" behavior or "promoting" oneself is not against the law. I don't agree with you that this is what the guy was doing, however, even it it was, the cops are way out of line. For you to say that these are the kinds of things that deserve arrest and tasing tells me you are as fascist as the pigs that administered the tasing.
Ahh, Gue "Kop Killa" Barium also exhibits reading comprehension problems.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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So he should have been tasered? Give me a break!
No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.
that is not the issue. the issue is the cops abusing their authority, which in this case they clearly did. just another example of us turning into a police state and everyone is ok with it.
what was the kid gonna do to them, swing the book at them? give me a break.
you may approve of cops acting like this, but i think its totally over the line. they did not even read him his rights before tasing him.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Based on your theory the next 3rd grader that doesnt act his age deserves to be tasered.
the kid's behavior was overblown and paranoid. he should have focused more on one or two questions/issues, and let Kerry respond. even Alex Jones' site said he was "histrionic", which is hilarious given the source.
however, NO NEED whatsoever to taser the dude. yes, he resisted arrest, but he was not a threat to anyone. in one video, the female cop says he was "inciting a riot". gimme a fucking break. the police's behavior was much worse than his.
i think that's a good point too. Kerry was way too tepid.
I think you're bordering on the same hysteria that the dipshit in the video demonstrated.
I have a general distrust for government, authority, cops, etc... I am anti-tax, anti-social services, anti-police-state. But I am also anti-stupidity. That fucking guy could have stopped the escalation any time he chose.
Again, show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered, and I'll be up in arms. I'll join you in moral outrage.
Should be an interesting police report....subject said "skull and bones"...was combative and then resisted arrest...was subsequently piled onto by multiple officers, promptly handcuffed then tasered. Victory. Freedom.
We also think he had slept at a holiday inn last night, and had wheaties the following morning for breakfast.
lol...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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heck... wanna say something nice about a cop? ok. i was driving 84 mph on a construction zone and a 65 speed limit with no proof of insurance in katie texas. a cop stopped me and passed me off with a warning... all he asked me is why i was speeding. i said i had a meeting with a girl... a date, mind you. he asked for proof of insurance.... i didn't have it but i told him it was under my sisters. the dude calmly just passed me off with a warning. and said, "just drive safe, ok?"
you gotta understand that cops are people too.... trying to do their jobs the best they can. yeah, sometimes they mess up... just like any other human individual would. some cops are crooks.... some are not. you can't overgeneralize the situation.
see.... when you look at it at a perspective without holding any sides you begin to realize that people tend to go from one extreme to the other. cops aren't ALWAYS going to be justified by their actions.... but at the same time cops aren't ALWAYS going to be "pigs" or "killers".
no... i don't agree that the cops should've tased the dude.... but albeit... i don't think they had any other clue of how to deal with the situation.
i still get pissed at cops for many reasons. here in austin... in the last 4 years or so they have killed about 9 unarmed black and hispanic males... no older than 25 and all were done by white cops. yeah, it's a big deal here too.
point in case, come to austin... i'll give you about 9 or so of these cases.
hell, you wanna hear one different one? not exactly the same... but here's what happened. a few months ago we had a lot of rain here in austin... so some areas got pretty flooded. there was this hispanic lady who tried to pass a closed road with her child because of flooding. a sheriff caught her trying to pass so he took her in for putting her child in danger. guess how many years the judge wanted to give her? 10 years. fuckerifficabillysuperridiculous! good thing people protested and told the judge to get his head out of his ass... cause that's pretty messed up. so the judge reduced the sentence to something like 2 years probation and 10 years community service or something like that.
i'll try to find you the link... it was kinda a long time ago... but i'll see if i can find it.
If someone gous out of time they take him away the mic, eventually, but being arrested is pure fascism and repression.
www.amnesty.org.uk
No kidding... armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.
Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious.
It keeps getting worse as we go along...
It's epidemic.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717
They arrested him for inciting a riot.
fucking screw heads...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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www.amnesty.org.uk
if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....
for about a month........hehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).
Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
You sound like a really cool guy...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Tasers have killed over 70 people since 2000. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/tasers/deaths.shtml
I think that tasers have lulled the police into thinking it is completely safe and they are using it in situations that dont demand that kind of forceful reaction.
enjoy the fascism!!!
FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/tasers_wheelchair_bound_woman_dies_after_10_taser_blasts.htm
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
someone should taser your nut sack.ooops,i meant vagina.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
my issue is the criteria people are using to justify the tasering of this guy...
it seems some, and I have to included you here, think that being a dick, or a tard, or bugging out or acting "way over the top" is enough to taser someone...
yes, he was screaming and yelling. yes, he did not follow directions, however, for me, that does not justify the police putting hands on him, and then tasering him, while on the ground, subdued, with cops all over him...
and some have said people "clapped" as he was lead away...I guess mob rule is in place... well they quickly became quiet when the tasering happened...
listen, I understand what you're saying, and I see your point, I just respectfully disagree that he "had it coming"....heck, when the Code Pink ladies are spouting off, they drag them out and move on...perhaps precedent is set...taser anyone who won't stop talking....kinda scary, huh...
"Obnoxious" behavior or "promoting" oneself is not against the law. I don't agree with you that this is what the guy was doing, however, even it it was, the cops are way out of line. For you to say that these are the kinds of things that deserve arrest and tasing tells me you are as fascist as the pigs that administered the tasing.
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That's cool. I also respect and completely understand your position. I have gone back and forth about this one. The reason I find myself on the other side of the issue at this point is that he wasn't merely tased for being obnoxious. He was asked to leave for being obnoxious. Once he started moving toward the front of the venue, the cops really started clamping down on him. Then he started thrashing around and resisting. He escalated it from a simple outburst like you mentioned with the Code Pink ladies to something involving a physical altercation. At that point all bets are off.
Ahh, Gue "Kop Killa" Barium also exhibits reading comprehension problems.