I just searched Google for Taser Kills Person (real scientific) and got no matches indicating that it has actually occurered. I see lots of discussion by Doctor wanna be folks like us discussing if they CAN kill be people... but nothing indicating they have killed anyone.
http://www.local6.com/news/14147512/detail.html (be sure to read this one. They killed a 56 year old woman after tasing her ten times within two mins. By the way, she was in a wheelchair.)
A guy knew the rules of where he was.
A guy broke the rules.
A guy was asked to leave.
A guy wouldnt leave.
A guy was resisting arrest.
A guy got tased.
I see no problem with it... but im sure you'll disagree
I'll spare the Barney Fife comparison on you, I think I know you better than that. Still, maybe a little too much Opie and Aunt B in your observation for my liking.
http://www.local6.com/news/14147512/detail.html (be sure to read this one. They killed a 56 year old woman after tasing her ten times within two mins. By the way, she was in a wheelchair.)
there's two i found in about 45 secs-1 min
Fair enough, as i indicated, my search wasn't too exhaustive..
However, its not a common occurance... and the 2nd one isnt a problem with Taser- its that it was being abused by the user- just like if they had hit her in the skull 10 times with a night stick. You can kill a person with just about anything if you use right.
I was just pointing out in most cases, a taser is going to be a pretty decent alternative to beating the crap out of someone.
Fair enough, as i indicated, my search wasn't too exhaustive..
However, its not a common occurance... and the 2nd one isnt a problem with Taser- its that it was being abused by the user- just like if they had hit her in the skull 10 times with a night stick. You can kill a person with just about anything if you use right.
I was just pointing out in most cases, a taser is going to be a pretty decent alternative to beating the crap out of someone.
I'll spare the Barney Fife comparison on you, I think I know you better than that. Still, maybe a little too much Opie and Aunt B in your observation for my liking.
Sucks about the Tigers, eh?
Basically, this is one of those issues that there is going to be no right answer for... but ultimately, in this case, i dont think the "protester" left them any alternative. At some point, authority becomes meaningless if people think they can continue to ignore orders.
Can we agree that this man needed to be removed from the room?
Basically, this is one of those issues that there is going to be no right answer for... but ultimately, in this case, i dont think the "protester" left them any alternative. At some point, authority becomes meaningless if people think they can continue to ignore orders.
Can we agree that this man needed to be removed from the room?
Nope.
I wonder how Sheriff Andy would have handled it.
See, I think the guy was one who had a legitimate gripe, and he should be allowed to air it verbally. He's a journalism student, and he wasn't breaking any new journalistic ground by asking more than the allotted one question rule.
I hate fascists. People are gonna wanna call me out on this, but if you read your Constitution, and you read your Supreme Court rulings on self-defense, this student had every right in the world to oppose being arrested. He had lethal right to resist arrest.
See, I think the guy was one who had a legitimate gripe, and he should be allowed to air it verbally. He's a journalism student, and he wasn't breaking any new journalistic ground by asking more than the allotted one question rule.
I hate fascists. People are gonna wanna call me out on this, but if you read your Constitution, and you read your Supreme Court rulings on self-defense, this student had every right in the world to oppose being arrested. He had lethal right to resist arrest.
So lets say the first student would have decided he was a Journalist... and needed to take all the allotted time? It wasnt a press conference... and how he acted was not as a journalist... if he was trying to be a journalist, he would have waited for an answer.
So lets say the first student would have decided he was a Journalist... and needed to take all the allotted time? It wasnt a press conference... and how he acted was not as a journalist... if he was trying to be a journalist, he would have waited for an answer.
Well, first and foremost, he is a 21-year-old student. A journalism major. In a crowd of journalism major students.
I guess you didn't read the story. He wasn't taking anyone else's time. He was the last in line and Kerry had actually reached the allotted question time but waved him forward to the mike anyway.
Well, first and foremost, he is a 21-year-old student. A journalism major. In a crowd of journalism major students.
I guess you didn't read the story. He wasn't taking anyone else's time. He was the last in line and Kerry had actually reached the allotted question time but waved him forward to the mike anyway.
Please, he obviously had an agenda. He asked his one question... and then another.. and then started rambling. They turned his mike off. He kept going. They asked him to leave. He wouldnt.
If he was behaving as a journalist, he would have shown some level of decorum. Being a journalism major doesnt make you a journalist.
Please, he obviously had an agenda. He asked his one question... and then another.. and then started rambling. They turned his mike off. He kept going. They asked him to leave. He wouldnt.
If he was behaving as a journalist, he would have shown some level of decorum. Being a journalism major doesnt make you a journalist.
Well, right, being a journalism major doesn't make you a journalist, but being a journalist in training shouldn't be a lesson in what angle you take in your questioning of an "important" political figure, either, to result in getting manhandled by goons. That isn't a lesson, that's fascism.
Well, right, being a journalism major doesn't make you a journalist, but being a journalist in training shouldn't be a lesson in what angle you take in your questioning of an "important" political figure, either, to result in getting manhandled by goons. That isn't a lesson, that's fascism.
He wasnt manhandled for asking a question.
he was manhandled for being a disruption
he was manhandled for not following an instruction.
Thats not fascism, it isnt a lesson either- it was a reasonable solution to a situation that could have rapidly gone out of control.
He wasnt manhandled for asking a question.
he was manhandled for being a disruption
he was manhandled for not following an instruction.
Thats not fascism, it isnt a lesson either- it was a reasonable solution to a situation that could have rapidly gone out of control.
Bullshit, Barney Fife. If you choose to continue to live with this sale of Paranoia that is being spread to destroy this Republic, you go right ahead. I don't need any Michiganders anyway.
Bullshit, Barney Fife. If you choose to continue to live with this sale of Paranoia that is being spread to destroy this Republic, you go right ahead. I don't need any Michiganders anyway.
Way to be a part of reasonable debate.
what the hell does paranoia have to do with it AT ALL. an asshole entitled jerkoff with an agenda got exactly what he wanted for being a douche.
No politics, no paranoia. He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it.
Bullshit, Barney Fife. If you choose to continue to live with this sale of Paranoia that is being spread to destroy this Republic, you go right ahead. I don't need any Michiganders anyway.
I just read through this thread, and its become apparent what a jerkoff you can be.
Dozens of people said the same things i did, but im the only one you decided to call a facist and "barney fife"- after specifically requesting my opinion, knowing full well what it was going to be.
what the hell does paranoia have to do with it AT ALL. an asshole entitled jerkoff with an agenda got exactly what he wanted for being a douche.
No politics, no paranoia. He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it.
Alright, here's the thing. If you can deny that America is being wholeheartedly sold out on the idea that 9/11 was "the day the world changed..." then you are the winner of this debate.
The way I see it is that you are such a sucker for that reasoning, and the all-encompassing shambles it makes of the right of individuals to simply speak out that you prove my point in your diminished reasoning by posting a comment like: "He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it."
Alright, here's the thing. If you can deny that America is being wholeheartedly sold out on the idea that 9/11 was "the day the world changed..." then you are the winner of this debate.
The way I see it is that you are such a sucker for that reasoning, and the all-encompassing shambles it makes of the right of individuals to simply speak out that you prove my point in your diminished reasoning by posting a comment like: "He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it."
The world did change.. a lot of people did buy into ridiculous paranoia and have allowed things to occur that wouldnt have otherwise. I still think its crazy that family members cant go into the airport terminal to see their loved ones off. It didnt make sense to me on 9/18/01, and still doesnt.
I think society is way too paranoid- the idiots that think we need to go to all these extremes to "protect" us from terrorists, and the people who are just as paranoid in the opposite direction- "the government was behind it all..."
But that has NOTHING to do with a guy getting tazed. As a journalist, he had every right to "speak out" in a professional manner- perhaps a strongly worded column. Instead he chose a public forum to be disruptive and uncooperative.. and ultimately there is, and always has been consequences for doing that.
the guy was acting like a douche, and got tazed for it.
The world did change.. a lot of people did buy into ridiculous paranoia and have allowed things to occur that wouldnt have otherwise. I still think its crazy that family members cant go into the airport terminal to see their loved ones off. It didnt make sense to me on 9/18/01, and still doesnt.
I think society is way too paranoid- the idiots that think we need to go to all these extremes to "protect" us from terrorists, and the people who are just as paranoid in the opposite direction- "the government was behind it all..."
But that has NOTHING to do with a guy getting tazed. As a journalist, he had every right to "speak out" in a professional manner- perhaps a strongly worded column. Instead he chose a public forum to be disruptive and uncooperative.. and ultimately there is, and always has been consequences for doing that.
the guy was acting like a douche, and got tazed for it.
The world did not change, skitch. You're buying into it at the most elemental level and follow it with rationalizations that speaking out against with what you disagree is punishable by police brutality and jail time.
The world did not change, skitch. You're buying into it at the most elemental level and follow it with rationalizations that speaking out against with what you disagree is punishable by police brutality and jail time.
The world changed... thats not really up for debate, is it?
A war was started as a result
People are more paranoid about terrorist attacks.
People are more paranoid their government is capable of terrible things
Peoples liberties have been curbed.
the world changed a lot as a result of 9/11.
I dont believe he was being tazed for WHAT he was saying... rather how he was saying it.
The world changed... thats not really up for debate, is it?
A war was started as a result
People are more paranoid about terrorist attacks.
People are more paranoid their government is capable of terrible things
Peoples liberties have been curbed.
the world changed a lot as a result of 9/11.
I dont believe he was being tazed for WHAT he was saying... rather how he was saying it.
Again, he wasnt even tazed for how he was asking his questions. He was grabbed for his jumping away from police in the direction of a US Senator. Then as the police were walking him away, he tried to run from police.
Is int EVER ok to run up to a US Senator after making a scene like that? They have to protect people.
Again, he was tazed...
NOT for asking questions
NOT for acting like an idiot.
NOT for taking too much time.
HE was NOT even tazed for causing a scene. Only after he ran towards Kerry, and then RESISTED being escorted, then RESISTING arrest, was he tazed.
This guy gives a bad name to anyone who tried to make a difference, and gives a bad name to any legitimate student journalist. He makes college kids look like impulsive, media whores.
Again, he wasnt even tazed for how he was asking his questions. He was grabbed for his jumping away from police in the direction of a US Senator. Then as the police were walking him away, he tried to run from police.
Is int EVER ok to run up to a US Senator after making a scene like that? They have to protect people.
Again, he was tazed...
NOT for asking questions
NOT for acting like an idiot.
NOT for taking too much time.
HE was NOT even tazed for causing a scene. Only after he ran towards Kerry, and then RESISTED being escorted, then RESISTING arrest, was he tazed.
This guy gives a bad name to anyone who tried to make a difference, and gives a bad name to any legitimate student journalist. He makes college kids look like impulsive, media whores.
The world changed... thats not really up for debate, is it?
A war was started as a result
People are more paranoid about terrorist attacks.
People are more paranoid their government is capable of terrible things
Peoples liberties have been curbed.
the world changed a lot as a result of 9/11.
I dont believe he was being tazed for WHAT he was saying... rather how he was saying it.
I shit. You shit. It stinks.
It doesn't matter that you love the Tigers and I love the Twins.
I mean, the "world" doesn't care. Never has, never will.
Yet, it is the world that you are speaking that cares about the basebeall teams that don't make it to the post season. It is the world that you speak of that cares that people are just in favor of one thing or another. Hmm, 9/11 scary, whatever we gotta save ourselves with, by god that's the way to go, OR, the opposition that says, damn, that sucked, how can we avoid something like that again? Can we?
I know that. I was agreeing with you. Except you said that he was tazed for HOW he asked his questions, and I dont think thats the case.....he was tazed for acting in an unpredicitble and dangerous manner.
I shit. You shit. It stinks.
It doesn't matter that you love the Tigers and I love the Twins.
I mean, the "world" doesn't care. Never has, never will.
Yet, it is the world that you are speaking that cares about the basebeall teams that don't make it to the post season. It is the world that you speak of that cares that people are just in favor of one thing or another. Hmm, 9/11 scary, whatever we gotta save ourselves with, by god that's the way to go, OR, the opposition that says, damn, that sucked, how can we avoid something like that again? Can we?
I know that. I was agreeing with you. Except you said that he was tazed for HOW he asked his questions, and I dont think thats the case.....he was tazed for acting in an unpredicitble and dangerous manner.
And you'll be playing Barney Fife in the upcoming remake of Mayberry. Congrats.
I shit. You shit. It stinks.
It doesn't matter that you love the Tigers and I love the Twins.
I mean, the "world" doesn't care. Never has, never will.
Yet, it is the world that you are speaking that cares about the basebeall teams that don't make it to the post season. It is the world that you speak of that cares that people are just in favor of one thing or another. Hmm, 9/11 scary, whatever we gotta save ourselves with, by god that's the way to go, OR, the opposition that says, damn, that sucked, how can we avoid something like that again? Can we?
Go do your Hocus fucking pocus in AET.
Wow, nevermind. I guess you arent better than that.
Comments
you should try this one.
man killed after being tasered
number of death caused by police tasers
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17399364&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=6
http://www.local6.com/news/14147512/detail.html (be sure to read this one. They killed a 56 year old woman after tasing her ten times within two mins. By the way, she was in a wheelchair.)
there's two i found in about 45 secs-1 min
I'll spare the Barney Fife comparison on you, I think I know you better than that. Still, maybe a little too much Opie and Aunt B in your observation for my liking.
Sucks about the Tigers, eh?
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Fair enough, as i indicated, my search wasn't too exhaustive..
However, its not a common occurance... and the 2nd one isnt a problem with Taser- its that it was being abused by the user- just like if they had hit her in the skull 10 times with a night stick. You can kill a person with just about anything if you use right.
I was just pointing out in most cases, a taser is going to be a pretty decent alternative to beating the crap out of someone.
i agree with you.
Basically, this is one of those issues that there is going to be no right answer for... but ultimately, in this case, i dont think the "protester" left them any alternative. At some point, authority becomes meaningless if people think they can continue to ignore orders.
Can we agree that this man needed to be removed from the room?
Nope.
I wonder how Sheriff Andy would have handled it.
See, I think the guy was one who had a legitimate gripe, and he should be allowed to air it verbally. He's a journalism student, and he wasn't breaking any new journalistic ground by asking more than the allotted one question rule.
I hate fascists. People are gonna wanna call me out on this, but if you read your Constitution, and you read your Supreme Court rulings on self-defense, this student had every right in the world to oppose being arrested. He had lethal right to resist arrest.
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So lets say the first student would have decided he was a Journalist... and needed to take all the allotted time? It wasnt a press conference... and how he acted was not as a journalist... if he was trying to be a journalist, he would have waited for an answer.
Well, first and foremost, he is a 21-year-old student. A journalism major. In a crowd of journalism major students.
I guess you didn't read the story. He wasn't taking anyone else's time. He was the last in line and Kerry had actually reached the allotted question time but waved him forward to the mike anyway.
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Please, he obviously had an agenda. He asked his one question... and then another.. and then started rambling. They turned his mike off. He kept going. They asked him to leave. He wouldnt.
If he was behaving as a journalist, he would have shown some level of decorum. Being a journalism major doesnt make you a journalist.
Well, right, being a journalism major doesn't make you a journalist, but being a journalist in training shouldn't be a lesson in what angle you take in your questioning of an "important" political figure, either, to result in getting manhandled by goons. That isn't a lesson, that's fascism.
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He wasnt manhandled for asking a question.
he was manhandled for being a disruption
he was manhandled for not following an instruction.
Thats not fascism, it isnt a lesson either- it was a reasonable solution to a situation that could have rapidly gone out of control.
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Way to be a part of reasonable debate.
what the hell does paranoia have to do with it AT ALL. an asshole entitled jerkoff with an agenda got exactly what he wanted for being a douche.
No politics, no paranoia. He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it.
I just read through this thread, and its become apparent what a jerkoff you can be.
Dozens of people said the same things i did, but im the only one you decided to call a facist and "barney fife"- after specifically requesting my opinion, knowing full well what it was going to be.
wtf.
Alright, here's the thing. If you can deny that America is being wholeheartedly sold out on the idea that 9/11 was "the day the world changed..." then you are the winner of this debate.
The way I see it is that you are such a sucker for that reasoning, and the all-encompassing shambles it makes of the right of individuals to simply speak out that you prove my point in your diminished reasoning by posting a comment like: "He was a dickhead, and got tazed for it."
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The world did change.. a lot of people did buy into ridiculous paranoia and have allowed things to occur that wouldnt have otherwise. I still think its crazy that family members cant go into the airport terminal to see their loved ones off. It didnt make sense to me on 9/18/01, and still doesnt.
I think society is way too paranoid- the idiots that think we need to go to all these extremes to "protect" us from terrorists, and the people who are just as paranoid in the opposite direction- "the government was behind it all..."
But that has NOTHING to do with a guy getting tazed. As a journalist, he had every right to "speak out" in a professional manner- perhaps a strongly worded column. Instead he chose a public forum to be disruptive and uncooperative.. and ultimately there is, and always has been consequences for doing that.
the guy was acting like a douche, and got tazed for it.
The world did not change, skitch. You're buying into it at the most elemental level and follow it with rationalizations that speaking out against with what you disagree is punishable by police brutality and jail time.
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The world changed... thats not really up for debate, is it?
A war was started as a result
People are more paranoid about terrorist attacks.
People are more paranoid their government is capable of terrible things
Peoples liberties have been curbed.
the world changed a lot as a result of 9/11.
I dont believe he was being tazed for WHAT he was saying... rather how he was saying it.
And it brings out the insults as well. Youre better than that.
Nuclear fission
Again, he wasnt even tazed for how he was asking his questions. He was grabbed for his jumping away from police in the direction of a US Senator. Then as the police were walking him away, he tried to run from police.
Is int EVER ok to run up to a US Senator after making a scene like that? They have to protect people.
Again, he was tazed...
NOT for asking questions
NOT for acting like an idiot.
NOT for taking too much time.
HE was NOT even tazed for causing a scene. Only after he ran towards Kerry, and then RESISTED being escorted, then RESISTING arrest, was he tazed.
This guy gives a bad name to anyone who tried to make a difference, and gives a bad name to any legitimate student journalist. He makes college kids look like impulsive, media whores.
Nuclear fission
dude, im on your side. I think he deserved it.
I shit. You shit. It stinks.
It doesn't matter that you love the Tigers and I love the Twins.
I mean, the "world" doesn't care. Never has, never will.
Yet, it is the world that you are speaking that cares about the basebeall teams that don't make it to the post season. It is the world that you speak of that cares that people are just in favor of one thing or another. Hmm, 9/11 scary, whatever we gotta save ourselves with, by god that's the way to go, OR, the opposition that says, damn, that sucked, how can we avoid something like that again? Can we?
Go do your Hocus fucking pocus in AET.
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I know that. I was agreeing with you. Except you said that he was tazed for HOW he asked his questions, and I dont think thats the case.....he was tazed for acting in an unpredicitble and dangerous manner.
Nuclear fission
The world did not change.
You're delusional.
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And you'll be playing Barney Fife in the upcoming remake of Mayberry. Congrats.
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Wow, nevermind. I guess you arent better than that.
Nuclear fission
You must be very proud. You have completely lost this argument.
Nuclear fission
No, just trying too hard to get you to face your own mistake that 9/11 changed the world.
That's the Lie.
And you seem to have bought into it hook, line, and sinker.
That saddens me. I thought you were a bit above that crap.
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I'm sure all your fairy tales go so swell.
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