Police taser student at John Kerry Q&A

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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gue_barium wrote:
    He was asking questions. You and many others like you may not have liked the questions, but that was his right, and it was taken away from him by force.

    I don't have any issue whatsoever with his questions, but it's obvious he planned to monopolize the event until they physically removed him.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Yes, and both times he tried to the kid would start yelling and screaming again.

    The guy was not "yelling and screaming". He was trying to get in as many questions as possible.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gue_barium wrote:
    What was the stunt? Kerry wanted to answer the questions, apparently.

    Also, according to the format he was really only allowed to ask one question. He was pulling a stunt, it's obvious.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    I don't have any issue whatsoever with his questions, but it's obvious he planned to monopolize the event until they physically removed him.

    How is that obvious? If the police hadn't been asked to remove him it would be a non-event. I don't see the reason to remove him.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    Also, according to the format he was really only allowed to ask one question. He was pulling a stunt, it's obvious.

    So? It was a number of stunts disguised as a question. Wait! It was a stunt in the guise of too many questions.

    Tase the motherfucker. Remove him!
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gue_barium wrote:
    So? It was a number of stunts disguised as a question. Wait! It was a stunt in the guise of too many questions.

    Tase the motherfucker. Remove him!


    Chill out. I already said I thought it was overkill to tase him at that point.

    ....but I think he was going to stand there and be belligerant until they eventually did something. He obviously had an agenda or intent.

    I'm fine with people asking question, but it's obvious if you go to an event and are purposefully disruptive, they're probably going to have you removed.

    I'll bet the school paid a pretty good sum to have him there and it's not alright for a small minority of students to basically ruin the event.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    Chill out. I already said I thought it was overkill to tase him at that point.

    ....but I think he was going to stand there and be belligerant until they eventually did something. He obviously had an agenda or intent.

    I'm fine with people asking question, but it's obvious if you go to an event and are purposefully disruptive, they're probably going to have you removed.

    I'll bet the school paid a pretty good sum to have him there and it's not alright for a small minority of students to basically ruin the event.

    Obviously you haven't read the story. The event was essentially over. The student was the last in line to ask questions. If anyone thought he was being truly uncivil they could have walked out. The thing was over with anyway. He wasn't blocking anyone else from speaking. But no, Old Blue had to have a little say in the matter and assert themselves to show all the students that in spite of everything else, it is the people in uniform that have the power.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gue_barium wrote:
    How is that obvious? If the police hadn't been asked to remove him it would be a non-event. I don't see the reason to remove him.

    Are you him? ;)

    Watch the footage before they started trying to remove him. He was being obnoxious on purpose.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    know1 wrote:
    Are you him? ;)

    Watch the footage before they started trying to remove him. He was being obnoxious on purpose.

    so what..?
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    Are you him? ;)

    Watch the footage before they started trying to remove him. He was being obnoxious on purpose.

    I've had my say on this matter. If you need to read it again you know how to use the back button.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    jeffbr wrote:
    Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions.
    show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered

    no... i think i'm reading it right. you asked to show a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered. so that's what i did. there have been about 9 or so of these cases here in austin. but, no wait, they weren't tasered. they were shot.... even worse.
    I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
    well, if you think he got what he deserved it's because you've got different disciplinary standards. i don't agree that he should've been tasered but i can understand the cops perspective... although i don't agree with it. it's all in your own interpretation. some people would discipline their children with a belt, some wouldn't.
    Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).

    Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
    i don't care.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    know1 wrote:
    Are you him? ;)

    Watch the footage before they started trying to remove him. He was being obnoxious on purpose.
    yeah... i'm sorry i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. no one should get tasered just for being abnoxious on purpose. i think if he was being abnoxious they did exactly what they should do.... escort him out the building. just like in any other event. but since they were cops he was "resisting" so it gets technical from that point and onward.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    yeah... i'm sorry i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. no one should get tasered just for being abnoxious on purpose. i think if he was being abnoxious they did exactly what they should do.... escort him out the building. just like in any other event. but since they were cops he was "resisting" so it gets technical from that point and onward.

    I pretty much agree with you. I said in my first post that I didn't really think the tasering was necessary. I do think they were right to remove him, though.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Puck78 wrote:
    is it enough to arrest him? Prisons would be super full, if people acting immature could be arrested for that
    Last time I checked resisting the police was punishable by a fine or jail time. Resisting arrest is why he was jailed, not him being immature. Had he cooperated I'm sure he would've been escorted outside and that'd have been the end of it.
  • BetterThanYou
    BetterThanYou Posts: 853
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    No kidding... armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.

    Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious.

    It keeps getting worse as we go along...

    It's epidemic.

    you do remember that a senator and someone that ran for the presidency was speaking, right? should they carry spitwads instead of weapons?
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You sound like a really cool guy...
    does this mean its my turn to give my opinion of you????
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Quick history lesson.....

    When Rosa Parks was arrested in Montgomery, Alabama for not giving up her seat on the bus to a white man......she didn't raise a ruckus, resist arrest or cause a scene. If protesters want to win the hearts of the middle....they're going to have some manners, class and civility about it. If they don't......the majority will simply stare at them or ignore them.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    danny72688 wrote:
    Last time I checked resisting the police was punishable by a fine or jail time. Resisting arrest is why he was jailed, not him being immature. Had he cooperated I'm sure he would've been escorted outside and that'd have been the end of it.

    Resisting arrest is not punishable when it is an illegal arrest.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    tybird wrote:
    Quick history lesson.....

    When Rosa Parks was arrested in Montgomery, Alabama for not giving up her seat on the bus to a white man......she didn't raise a ruckus, resist arrest or cause a scene. If protesters want to win the hearts of the middle....they're going to have some manners, class and civility about it. If they don't......the majority will simply stare at them or ignore them.


    “Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.”

    http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    does this mean its my turn to give my opinion of you????


    it wouldn't matter if you did.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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