I was watching one of this guys friends being interviewed today on CNN, and it makes me think not everybody is getting the whole story. This girl, whom was asked by this guy to record the whole thing, shed a little more light on the whole thing. As she pointed out, not all of these videos caught the whole thing, as most people started recording after things started getting crazy. According to her (who was there with him, and recorded his footage) the young man didn't just wait his turn to ask his question and get accosted, he plowed is way up to the front, and cut somebody else off whose turn it was to talk, and then started his ramblings. Already he was being disorderly, and this led to the inital police reaction, not because of his opinions/questions. His continued conduct and resistance, not to mention the fact that there was a Senator in the building, whose protection was their responsibility, is what led to his being tasered. This young man wasn't just being abused for "being a dick" or for his opinions, he was being dragged off and tasered for billigerant and possibly dangerous behaviour.
I was reading a story on the web, and they were talking about this kids website, which I have not visited, which makes it pretty obvious this was a stunt he planned for attention, and got a response he was probably happy with. It said his site had videos of him standing outside of a bookstore the day the last Harry Potter book was being released holding a sign that said "Harry Dies", and other such stuff. Now is a prank or a stunt something that should get you tasered? No it isn't. But in a forum like this, he knew he would get a reaction like he did (being removed that is) and he should have just not resisted. When he started resisting and acting crazy, he brought the tasing on himself.
As for his freedom of speech, it wasn't his speech that got him in trouble, it was his actions. And what about the freedom of speech for the person who he cut off? That person had the right, and was following the rules of the forum, to ask his/her question or state an opinion, and "Johnny LookAtMe" decided to strip that away for his own little stunt.
If somebody ran up on stage during a Pearl Jam show, and took the microphone from Ed to start rambling his personal politics stopping the show in it's tracks, and was forcibly dragged from the stage and possibly tasered, would you be angry? Or would you still think he should be allowed to do it because it is "his right"?
I thought about this yesterday. There was more of a preamble to the tape, however he was only talking. Kerry can talk as well, unless he was just shouting over top of him nonstop. Freedom of speech means being able to talk loudly as well.
The full story will surface.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
to troll or not to troll....it amazes me that so many people...so many intelligent people are unable to recognize reality..
reality...a goofy liberal kid want's to make a stir on a liberal campus, and wants to get tazered so that everyone will make some sort of vague connections to how bush is a fascist, plans the event, and hands off his camera to his friend...and so whacko libs will blame bush for creating an atmosphere of anti-disent. you people that make this argument are so out of your mind that it's hilarious.
if you're serious about the first amendment, the discussion starts at mccain / feingold (aka the pro-incumbent finance reform).
i have to admit...his "help me" plea were funny as fuck!
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
to troll or not to troll....it amazes me that so many people...so many intelligent people are unable to recognize reality..
reality...a goofy liberal kid want's to make a stir on a liberal campus, and wants to get tazered so that everyone will make some sort of vague connections to how bush is a fascist, plans the event, and hands off his camera to his friend...and so whacko libs will blame bush for creating an atmosphere of anti-disent. you people that make this argument are so out of your mind that it's hilarious.
if you're serious about the first amendment, the discussion starts at mccain / feingold (aka the pro-incumbent finance reform).
i have to admit...his "help me" plea were funny as fuck!
help!!!
help!!!
they are gonna kill me!!!! hahahahahahahaha
i hope they are still tasering that piece of shit.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i hope they are still tasering that piece of shit.....
at least i'm not the ONLY person to think it was funny!
i have to admit the kid is smart...andrew mayer...we never heard of him 7 days ago, now you have people making constitutional arguments based on his pretty kick-ass plan...he's playing the media like an accordian
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
at least i'm not the ONLY person to think it was funny!
i have to admit the kid is smart...andrew mayer...we never heard of him 7 days ago, now you have people making constitutional arguments based on his pretty kick-ass plan...he's playing the media like an accordian
yeah it was funny....but it could have been so much better.....
they should have turned around and tasered Sen. Kerry......
and when that guys mom showed up at jail to bail his dumbass out....
they should have tasered her for giving birth to that idiot.....
hehehehehehehehe
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i hope they are still tasering that piece of shit.....
Let this be a lesson..
Don't do drugs kids..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
go find someone else to throw your insults at tonight.......
Naw man you're the taser guy
I'd rather keep tasering you every 30 mins ...to show you what it's like
kinda sucks eh?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I noticed one of the first things he said, right when they cut his mic, was, "Is anybody watching this?", and continued to look at the camera, and say "Ill ask my question. What did I do?"
Then after the dude started to get riled up and beligerent, he made a half-run towards where Kerry was standing.
The guy either wanted this to happen or is crazy.
You dont act like that. Ask your question. But dont get riled up to the point where your behavior becomes unpredictable.
Then he continued to scream and curse in a public form, and tried to run from police, who were not aware of his intentions.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
go find someone else to throw your insults at tonight...........
damn straight yo...i'm gonna throw my insults at bush...that fascist bastard!
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
well we are cons...so we probably want to find black people, gays, women, and academics...those are the people we want to tazer *major...MAJOR eye roll*
once you get over the stereotype you have of the right, then we can have an actual discussion.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I thought about this yesterday. There was more of a preamble to the tape, however he was only talking. Kerry can talk as well, unless he was just shouting over top of him nonstop. Freedom of speech means being able to talk loudly as well.
The full story will surface.
If I went into a movie theater and talked, at normal levels, I would be asked to stop. If I didnt, I would be asked to leave. if I didnt, I would be forced to leave.
Why?
Becasue people came to watch a movie, not listen to me talk.
Same goes for this glory hound. He disrupted a public forum, a forum that has rules. He was asked to ask his question, and was given extra time. he asked his question, then continued to talk while Kerry tried to answer, and he insisted on asking two more questions, which is not allowed, but they let him do it anyway.....
and his third question was simply ridiculous and made his first tow beligerent questions look more like he had an intent to create a scene.
They then cut his mic, he threw a fit, and they escorted him away from the mic, and he kinda ran in the direction of a US Senator.
That is not freedom of speech. That is just breaking forum rules.
well we are cons...so we probably want to find black people, gays, women, and academics...those are the people we want to tazer *major...MAJOR eye roll*
once you get over the stereotype you have of the right, then we can have an actual discussion.
you can taser your balls 24/7 for all I care...whatever floats your boat by the hour
when you talk about putting the screws to other people...i.e. human beings in general....that's a bit different.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you can taser your balls 24/7 for all I care...whatever floats your boat by the hour
when you talk about putting the screws to other people...i.e. human beings in general....that's a bit different.
you really didn't make a point there...what was it?
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
If I went into a movie theater and talked, at normal levels, I would be asked to stop. If I didnt, I would be asked to leave. if I didnt, I would be forced to leave.
Why?
Becasue people came to watch a movie, not listen to me talk.
Same goes for this glory hound. He disrupted a public forum, a forum that has rules. He was asked to ask his question, and was given extra time. he asked his question, then continued to talk while Kerry tried to answer, and he insisted on asking two more questions, which is not allowed, but they let him do it anyway.....
and his third question was simply ridiculous and made his first tow beligerent questions look more like he had an intent to create a scene.
They then cut his mic, he threw a fit, and they escorted him away from the mic, and he kinda ran in the direction of a US Senator.
That is not freedom of speech. That is just breaking forum rules.
Actually dude...really (really) bad example. Nobody is supposed to talk at a movie.
This was not a movie if you know what I mean. It was a political forum.
Lots (and lots) of discussion. It's expected that people are not going to agree and talk a lot...and passionately...and out loud.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you really didn't make a point there...what was it?
I forgot did you ever have one?
something about racism I think
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Actually dude...really (really) bad example. Nobody is supposed to talk at a movie.
This was not a movie if you know what I mean. It was a political forum.
Lots (and lots) of discussion. It's expected that people are not going to agree and talk a lot...and passionately...and out loud.
Actually......dude.....its a perfect example.
I have been to political forums. And talking out loud....anything above a whisper...is not allowed.
People want to hear the SPEAKER speak.
It wasnt a "discussion in the round" and it wasnt a "group project" where people can openly discuss with their discussion partners.....it was a Q and A.
The Q......then the A.....and not dominated by one person. This guy was lucky they even let him ask a question.
your original point is that we (cons) want to shut down speech and we, and our evil dictator Bush have organized an ingenious plan to do so...
yet it is libs that passed mccain feingold...an ACTUAL detrriment to free speech.
and yes, i'm sure racism was involved...i mean, we are cons...OBVIOUSLY we are racists!
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
your original point is that we (cons) want to shut down speech and we, and our evil dictator Bush have organized an ingenious plan to do so...
yet it is libs that passed mccain feingold...an ACTUAL detrriment to free speech.
and yes, i'm sure racism was involved...i mean, we are cons...OBVIOUSLY we are racists!
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Who is saying that? treat human beings like what they are...human
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Who is saying that? treat human beings like what they are...human
either that...or treat reality as reality...
the kid is playing you, and the media...
he wanted to be tazered...it's so obvious.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I'm about as far left as anyone I know. I wouldnt vote for a a republican. And I actually dont like most democrats, becasue most of them lean too far to the right.....
And I agree with you 100%. Its completely obvious.
Or at least, he wanted to cause a scene and be dragged out of there. The tazer may have been a surprise to him. But he earned it.
I think he wanted to ask some serious questions. You saw the same vid right?
The police had a cum nut on for tasering. They are the ones feeling it brush their groin every so often in the holster when they walk with it.
Jeez now I sound like speedy... lol
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I thought about this yesterday. There was more of a preamble to the tape, however he was only talking. Kerry can talk as well, unless he was just shouting over top of him nonstop. Freedom of speech means being able to talk loudly as well.
The full story will surface.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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i'm now 99.9% convinced it was a stun gun that was aimed at him.
~D.K.S.
reality...a goofy liberal kid want's to make a stir on a liberal campus, and wants to get tazered so that everyone will make some sort of vague connections to how bush is a fascist, plans the event, and hands off his camera to his friend...and so whacko libs will blame bush for creating an atmosphere of anti-disent. you people that make this argument are so out of your mind that it's hilarious.
if you're serious about the first amendment, the discussion starts at mccain / feingold (aka the pro-incumbent finance reform).
i have to admit...his "help me" plea were funny as fuck!
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
help!!!
they are gonna kill me!!!! hahahahahahahaha
i hope they are still tasering that piece of shit.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
at least i'm not the ONLY person to think it was funny!
i have to admit the kid is smart...andrew mayer...we never heard of him 7 days ago, now you have people making constitutional arguments based on his pretty kick-ass plan...he's playing the media like an accordian
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
they should have turned around and tasered Sen. Kerry......
and when that guys mom showed up at jail to bail his dumbass out....
they should have tasered her for giving birth to that idiot.....
hehehehehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Let this be a lesson..
Don't do drugs kids..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
if only you had listened back then
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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go find someone else to throw your insults at tonight.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Naw man you're the taser guy
I'd rather keep tasering you every 30 mins ...to show you what it's like
kinda sucks eh?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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go for it....
taser away .............
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Then after the dude started to get riled up and beligerent, he made a half-run towards where Kerry was standing.
The guy either wanted this to happen or is crazy.
You dont act like that. Ask your question. But dont get riled up to the point where your behavior becomes unpredictable.
Then he continued to scream and curse in a public form, and tried to run from police, who were not aware of his intentions.
I have no idea why people are defending this guy.
Nuclear fission
So you like it?...oh ...ok...
Do you pay much extra for that?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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go find someone else to throw your insults at tonight...........
this is getting old quick...........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
damn straight yo...i'm gonna throw my insults at bush...that fascist bastard!
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
go taser someone...that will make you happy..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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well we are cons...so we probably want to find black people, gays, women, and academics...those are the people we want to tazer *major...MAJOR eye roll*
once you get over the stereotype you have of the right, then we can have an actual discussion.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
If I went into a movie theater and talked, at normal levels, I would be asked to stop. If I didnt, I would be asked to leave. if I didnt, I would be forced to leave.
Why?
Becasue people came to watch a movie, not listen to me talk.
Same goes for this glory hound. He disrupted a public forum, a forum that has rules. He was asked to ask his question, and was given extra time. he asked his question, then continued to talk while Kerry tried to answer, and he insisted on asking two more questions, which is not allowed, but they let him do it anyway.....
and his third question was simply ridiculous and made his first tow beligerent questions look more like he had an intent to create a scene.
They then cut his mic, he threw a fit, and they escorted him away from the mic, and he kinda ran in the direction of a US Senator.
That is not freedom of speech. That is just breaking forum rules.
Nuclear fission
you can taser your balls 24/7 for all I care...whatever floats your boat by the hour
when you talk about putting the screws to other people...i.e. human beings in general....that's a bit different.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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you really didn't make a point there...what was it?
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Actually dude...really (really) bad example. Nobody is supposed to talk at a movie.
This was not a movie if you know what I mean. It was a political forum.
Lots (and lots) of discussion. It's expected that people are not going to agree and talk a lot...and passionately...and out loud.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I forgot did you ever have one?
something about racism I think
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Actually......dude.....its a perfect example.
I have been to political forums. And talking out loud....anything above a whisper...is not allowed.
People want to hear the SPEAKER speak.
It wasnt a "discussion in the round" and it wasnt a "group project" where people can openly discuss with their discussion partners.....it was a Q and A.
The Q......then the A.....and not dominated by one person. This guy was lucky they even let him ask a question.
Nuclear fission
your original point is that we (cons) want to shut down speech and we, and our evil dictator Bush have organized an ingenious plan to do so...
yet it is libs that passed mccain feingold...an ACTUAL detrriment to free speech.
and yes, i'm sure racism was involved...i mean, we are cons...OBVIOUSLY we are racists!
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Who is saying that? treat human beings like what they are...human
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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either that...or treat reality as reality...
the kid is playing you, and the media...
he wanted to be tazered...it's so obvious.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I'm about as far left as anyone I know. I wouldnt vote for a a republican. And I actually dont like most democrats, becasue most of them lean too far to the right.....
And I agree with you 100%. Its completely obvious.
Or at least, he wanted to cause a scene and be dragged out of there. The tazer may have been a surprise to him. But he earned it.
Nuclear fission
I think he wanted to ask some serious questions. You saw the same vid right?
The police had a cum nut on for tasering. They are the ones feeling it brush their groin every so often in the holster when they walk with it.
Jeez now I sound like speedy... lol
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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