I think this comes down to the Pearl Jam Fan Club Monty Hall Problem, which can be summarized thusly:
Suppose you're selecting 10 shows, and you're given the choice of two ticket options per show: One option is GA/Reserved; another option is Reserved Only. You select GA/Reserved because you really want GA. Now some fan in the forums tells you that the best thing to do to increase your odds is to change your request to GA/Reserved and Reserved Only to increase your odds of getting in the building. Are you at an advantage if you change your selection and how mad will you be if you're shut out of tickets for all 10 shows even though you've been a member for 300 years? And what about the fact that you're in for 10 shows? Should you just prioritize the shows you want more? Does anyone understand?
The real answer is "who actually knows" as the fan club isn't publishing their algorithm. And all the proof in the world is limited to people commenting in the forums or on Facebook. Which is likely a tiny subset of all fans submitting requests.
How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring
Really fn low. Let's assume odds to get selected for each individual show was 50% (which we know it isn't that high), the odds to get all 10 of these shows would be less than 0.1%. If you took it down to 40% odds per show you'd be at 0.01%.
Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022. Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Status on the ticket request site has now changed from “request received” to “unfulfilled.” Just fyi
Yup! Two confirmed, Five unfulfilled for me.
Sorry
Well, those are five less tickets I will have to sell on F2F when I upgrade to GA
thats the spirit!
Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022. Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring
Really fn low. Let's assume odds to get selected for each individual show was 50% (which we know it isn't that high), the odds to get all 10 of these shows would be less than 0.1%. If you took it down to 40% odds per show you'd be at 0.01%.
What are the odds of losing all 10 of those shows at a 50% win rate?
How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring
Really fn low. Let's assume odds to get selected for each individual show was 50% (which we know it isn't that high), the odds to get all 10 of these shows would be less than 0.1%. If you took it down to 40% odds per show you'd be at 0.01%.
What are the odds of losing all 10 of those shows at a 50% win rate?
Same here, unfulfilled for both MSG nights (my only entries for the NA tour this time, I've got a couple in Europe)
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F2F should be interesting for Chicago, since you can pretty much ask whatever price you want on secondary sites. I am hoping there are people on here who have extra or decide that they aren't happy with their reserved tickets for Chicago and sell them at face value to those of us on here who were shut out in the lottery. I put up a ISO on GTF for Night 2 for that scenario. I guess this is a commercial for that thread!
Unless 10C changed their rules, fan club tickets can only be sold at face value and I hope they enforce that rule to the extent that they can. There is no way that they can watch every sale but I have heard about people losing their membership and tickets for selling above face value.
Except in states where there are laws preventing the restriction of resale. Illinois is one of those states.
10C rules still say face-value only in IL, NY & CO, they just can’t make them non-transferable. You are still taking a risk with your membership by marking them up.
How do you know that this person only put in for these ten shows?
Not relevant. They went 10 for 10 on these 10 shows. Since each draw is independent of other draws, it makes no difference if they put in for other shows or what their results were. For this group of shows, this person went 10-10. Would love to know the odds of that occurring
Really fn low. Let's assume odds to get selected for each individual show was 50% (which we know it isn't that high), the odds to get all 10 of these shows would be less than 0.1%. If you took it down to 40% odds per show you'd be at 0.01%.
What are the odds of losing all 10 of those shows at a 50% win rate?
Exactly the same as winning all
So if the folks winning all their pics was greater than 0.1% of the fan club, like more than 500 people did that, isnt the simplest answer that it wasnt actually 50% for most of the shows they selected but much higher?
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Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/11
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
2014 - Milwaukee
2016 - Fenway N1
2018 - Wrigley N1
2022 - Oakland N1
2023 - St Paul N1
2024 - Wrigley N2
So.... now it's official.
What are the odds of losing all 10 of those shows at a 50% win rate?
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2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2