How risky would it be to buy plane tickets and book a hotel in Seattle in hopes of scoring tickets through F2F?
Hotel isn’t risky at all, just pick a rate that can be cancelled for free. Flights are also available on a refundable basis for not that much more than non refundable depending on the airline and route.
Seattle is looking like a tough ticket. Personally I wouldn’t gamble any non refundable amounts on getting a ticket.
Now if you want to ensure being able to at least get in the door, the best bets are Sacramento and LA.
The airfare almost doubles when I select the refundable option. You are
right about the hotel though. I already have a room booked.
What
I've understood is that the best chance to get F2F tickets is from a
couple of days before to a day of the show. So canceling the flights if I
haven't managed to get a ticket prior to that leaves me out of the best
window to get those tickets.
It almost seems like a better
option to buy those cheaper non-refundable plane tickets and use the
"saved" money to buy a premium ticket but that doesn't sit quite right
with me.
For what it's worth I already have tickets to some
shows in Europe, but seeing PJ play in Seattle would be a "bucket list
tier" experience for me. Now on the other hand flying out to Seattle and
being left without a ticket would ruin the whole thing..
I'd roll the dice. Worst case you'd have to overpay for a ticket but wouldn't get shut out
How risky would it be to buy plane tickets and book a hotel in Seattle in hopes of scoring tickets through F2F?
Hotel isn’t risky at all, just pick a rate that can be cancelled for free. Flights are also available on a refundable basis for not that much more than non refundable depending on the airline and route.
Seattle is looking like a tough ticket. Personally I wouldn’t gamble any non refundable amounts on getting a ticket.
Now if you want to ensure being able to at least get in the door, the best bets are Sacramento and LA.
The airfare almost doubles when I select the refundable option. You are
right about the hotel though. I already have a room booked.
What
I've understood is that the best chance to get F2F tickets is from a
couple of days before to a day of the show. So canceling the flights if I
haven't managed to get a ticket prior to that leaves me out of the best
window to get those tickets.
It almost seems like a better
option to buy those cheaper non-refundable plane tickets and use the
"saved" money to buy a premium ticket but that doesn't sit quite right
with me.
For what it's worth I already have tickets to some
shows in Europe, but seeing PJ play in Seattle would be a "bucket list
tier" experience for me. Now on the other hand flying out to Seattle and
being left without a ticket would ruin the whole thing..
Not sure where you are coming from but most airlines give you a credit if you have to cancel, not just Southwest anymore.
I had to cancel American Air flights before and they give me travel credits.. If you are financially in a position to have an airline credit and use it within one year there is no reason to go full refundable. *disclaimer* check your airline to see if cancellations get you travel credits.
How risky would it be to buy plane tickets and book a hotel in Seattle in hopes of scoring tickets through F2F?
Hotel isn’t risky at all, just pick a rate that can be cancelled for free. Flights are also available on a refundable basis for not that much more than non refundable depending on the airline and route.
Seattle is looking like a tough ticket. Personally I wouldn’t gamble any non refundable amounts on getting a ticket.
Now if you want to ensure being able to at least get in the door, the best bets are Sacramento and LA.
The airfare almost doubles when I select the refundable option. You are
right about the hotel though. I already have a room booked.
What
I've understood is that the best chance to get F2F tickets is from a
couple of days before to a day of the show. So canceling the flights if I
haven't managed to get a ticket prior to that leaves me out of the best
window to get those tickets.
It almost seems like a better
option to buy those cheaper non-refundable plane tickets and use the
"saved" money to buy a premium ticket but that doesn't sit quite right
with me.
For what it's worth I already have tickets to some
shows in Europe, but seeing PJ play in Seattle would be a "bucket list
tier" experience for me. Now on the other hand flying out to Seattle and
being left without a ticket would ruin the whole thing..
Not sure where you are coming from but most airlines give you a credit if you have to cancel, not just Southwest anymore.
I had to cancel American Air flights before and they give me travel credits.. If you are financially in a position to have an airline credit and use it within one year there is no reason to go full refundable. *disclaimer* check your airline to see if cancellations get you travel credits.
This is correct. All US based airlines have to give you full credit if you have to cancel your flight. It's a law now. I had to cancel a Delta flight recently and it was a very easy process.
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How risky would it be to buy plane tickets and book a hotel in Seattle in hopes of scoring tickets through F2F?
Hotel isn’t risky at all, just pick a rate that can be cancelled for free. Flights are also available on a refundable basis for not that much more than non refundable depending on the airline and route.
Seattle is looking like a tough ticket. Personally I wouldn’t gamble any non refundable amounts on getting a ticket.
Now if you want to ensure being able to at least get in the door, the best bets are Sacramento and LA.
The airfare almost doubles when I select the refundable option. You are
right about the hotel though. I already have a room booked.
What
I've understood is that the best chance to get F2F tickets is from a
couple of days before to a day of the show. So canceling the flights if I
haven't managed to get a ticket prior to that leaves me out of the best
window to get those tickets.
It almost seems like a better
option to buy those cheaper non-refundable plane tickets and use the
"saved" money to buy a premium ticket but that doesn't sit quite right
with me.
For what it's worth I already have tickets to some
shows in Europe, but seeing PJ play in Seattle would be a "bucket list
tier" experience for me. Now on the other hand flying out to Seattle and
being left without a ticket would ruin the whole thing..
Not sure where you are coming from but most airlines give you a credit if you have to cancel, not just Southwest anymore.
I had to cancel American Air flights before and they give me travel credits.. If you are financially in a position to have an airline credit and use it within one year there is no reason to go full refundable. *disclaimer* check your airline to see if cancellations get you travel credits.
This is correct. All US based airlines have to give you full credit if you have to cancel your flight. It's a law now. I had to cancel a Delta flight recently and it was a very easy process.
Most do yes, but as a heads up, American recently stopped giving credits for basic economy fares
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Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
It's not easy, but it is doable. Baltimore in 2020 was one of the hardest to score, but a lot did, some multiple times. For the more in-demand shows, it takes time and perseverance, and a little luck.
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Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
I know last year I had 10C tickets to both Chicago shows. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer and after a long journey of surgeries and chemo treatments, she had a double mastectomy scheduled for Chicago night 1.
I was able to sell night 1 on F2F but night 2 never sold. A couple of weeks before the show, a ton of tickets were released. So even though tickets were scarce early on, there were so many available close to the show that my night 2 were never bought on F2F and they went unused.
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Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
I know last year I had 10C tickets to both Chicago shows. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer and after a long journey of surgeries and chemo treatments, she had a double mastectomy scheduled for Chicago night 1.
I was able to sell night 1 on F2F but night 2 never sold. A couple of weeks before the show, a ton of tickets were released. So even though tickets were scarce early on, there were so many available close to the show that my night 2 were never bought on F2F and they went unused.
I hope all is well with your wife and she's healing! This is a good example, though, for people worried they aren't going to find tickets. For all the panic expressed on the message boards last year and people shut out, upset with 10 club, etc. Some casual PJ fan friends of mine ended up getting somewhat decent base price tickets to N1 of the Saint Paul show a week before the show. You really don't have to try very hard in the weeks leading up and you should get tickets. They just half heartedly wanted to go and probably only knew a couple songs. I think there is a false sense of urgency and scarcity, which is created by Ticketmaster in order to inflate the prices and sell tickets. Hang in there if you are still looking for tickets. You'll get them if you are persistent. Odds are, if you only want to get into the building, you will.
I find it hard to believe anyone won't get half way decent seats for the stadium shows as it gets closer via f2f. I'd guess the only places people on this board would have to settle for crap seats would be NYC, Baltimore and probably Philly. Everywhere else I'd expect those who know what they are doing to get close to what they want.
Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
I know last year I had 10C tickets to both Chicago shows. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer and after a long journey of surgeries and chemo treatments, she had a double mastectomy scheduled for Chicago night 1.
I was able to sell night 1 on F2F but night 2 never sold. A couple of weeks before the show, a ton of tickets were released. So even though tickets were scarce early on, there were so many available close to the show that my night 2 were never bought on F2F and they went unused.
I hope all is well with your wife and she's healing! This is a good example, though, for people worried they aren't going to find tickets. For all the panic expressed on the message boards last year and people shut out, upset with 10 club, etc. Some casual PJ fan friends of mine ended up getting somewhat decent base price tickets to N1 of the Saint Paul show a week before the show. You really don't have to try very hard in the weeks leading up and you should get tickets. They just half heartedly wanted to go and probably only knew a couple songs. I think there is a false sense of urgency and scarcity, which is created by Ticketmaster in order to inflate the prices and sell tickets. Hang in there if you are still looking for tickets. You'll get them if you are persistent. Odds are, if you only want to get into the building, you will.
Spot on. Early on it seems like tickets are going to be scarce but things eventually loosen up. Some markets will be tougher than others. I'm not overestimating how easy MSG is going to be, for example. I expected Chicago to be tougher last year though. It wasn't easy to get good tickets but it was very possible with effort.
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Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
I know last year I had 10C tickets to both Chicago shows. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer and after a long journey of surgeries and chemo treatments, she had a double mastectomy scheduled for Chicago night 1.
I was able to sell night 1 on F2F but night 2 never sold. A couple of weeks before the show, a ton of tickets were released. So even though tickets were scarce early on, there were so many available close to the show that my night 2 were never bought on F2F and they went unused.
I hope all is well with your wife and she's healing! This is a good example, though, for people worried they aren't going to find tickets. For all the panic expressed on the message boards last year and people shut out, upset with 10 club, etc. Some casual PJ fan friends of mine ended up getting somewhat decent base price tickets to N1 of the Saint Paul show a week before the show. You really don't have to try very hard in the weeks leading up and you should get tickets. They just half heartedly wanted to go and probably only knew a couple songs. I think there is a false sense of urgency and scarcity, which is created by Ticketmaster in order to inflate the prices and sell tickets. Hang in there if you are still looking for tickets. You'll get them if you are persistent. Odds are, if you only want to get into the building, you will.
Spot on. Early on it seems like tickets are going to be scarce but things eventually loosen up. Some markets will be tougher than others. I'm not overestimating how easy MSG is going to be, for example. I would have thought Chicago would be a lot tougher last year though. It still wasn't easy to get good tickets but it was very possible with effort.
I appreciate the optimism here, I am no master of F2F F5'ing like you but I would like to think I am decent. I was able to upgrade all 4 TX shows last year to pit or very close side stage. I am hoping to do the same this year with the 6 shows (Vegas, NYC, and BOS) I have tickets to all except MSG1.
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Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
It's not easy, but it is doable. Baltimore in 2020 was one of the hardest to score, but a lot did, some multiple times. For the more in-demand shows, it takes time and perseverance, and a little luck.
IIRC, Baltimore was almost impossible. Some scored quickly, but most were on TM for five to ten hours a day. We had a popular topic on it. I recall a ticket per week appearing at one point, then it picked up a little . If your time is worth $20 an hour to you, that’s a hundred bucks a day seven hundred per week hitting refresh.
hopefully easier this time but the east is looking like a beast.
Anyone think we might be overestimating how easy F2F is going to be? The demand at many of the US shows seems pretty high with even few PJ premium left in some places. Might not be able to compare to 2023 as the Midwest shows wouldn’t have the same demand as Seattle, Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Plus anyone with bottom end P1s and P2s are going to be trying to upgrade. It might be more difficult this time around.
I know last year I had 10C tickets to both Chicago shows. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer and after a long journey of surgeries and chemo treatments, she had a double mastectomy scheduled for Chicago night 1.
I was able to sell night 1 on F2F but night 2 never sold. A couple of weeks before the show, a ton of tickets were released. So even though tickets were scarce early on, there were so many available close to the show that my night 2 were never bought on F2F and they went unused.
I hope all is well with your wife and she's healing! This is a good example, though, for people worried they aren't going to find tickets. For all the panic expressed on the message boards last year and people shut out, upset with 10 club, etc. Some casual PJ fan friends of mine ended up getting somewhat decent base price tickets to N1 of the Saint Paul show a week before the show. You really don't have to try very hard in the weeks leading up and you should get tickets. They just half heartedly wanted to go and probably only knew a couple songs. I think there is a false sense of urgency and scarcity, which is created by Ticketmaster in order to inflate the prices and sell tickets. Hang in there if you are still looking for tickets. You'll get them if you are persistent. Odds are, if you only want to get into the building, you will.
Spot on. Early on it seems like tickets are going to be scarce but things eventually loosen up. Some markets will be tougher than others. I'm not overestimating how easy MSG is going to be, for example. I expected Chicago to be tougher last year though. It wasn't easy to get good tickets but it was very possible with effort.
I went in with very low expectations for Chicago since I assumed that the vast majority of people would post their tickets on secondary sites instead of F2F. There was very little available in Chicago for a long time, but I was ultimately pleasantly surprised with the amount of F2F activity during the last week or so in the run up to the shows. I upgraded multiple times and was eventually able to get GA for both shows. I suspect MSG will be a different animal. However, I’m sure that at least some people on here will be able to score some good upgrades and maybe even GA.
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Not until all (or most) of the PJ premiums sell. And they will most likely be more premiums showing up in the next few weeks. I would expect F2F to open end of March or early April for the 1st US leg….
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I had to cancel American Air flights before and they give me travel credits.. If you are financially in a position to have an airline credit and use it within one year there is no reason to go full refundable. *disclaimer* check your airline to see if cancellations get you travel credits.
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Cant wait until june 25th!!!
Im staying in GA , someone knows when we will receive the tickets? We dont pick them up at the arena's booth right?
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It's not easy, but it is doable. Baltimore in 2020 was one of the hardest to score, but a lot did, some multiple times. For the more in-demand shows, it takes time and perseverance, and a little luck.
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hopefully easier this time but the east is looking like a beast.
When is fan 2 fan starting?! Let's go I gotta sell a few pairs!!!!