Don't Buy PJ Premium/Platinum Seating. We'll Help Each Other Find Good Seats.

gotthebottle

RatherStarved said:

Leafs 

Yes!!!!

Hoagie Breath

JBob87 said:

Hoagie Breath said:

tim131 said:

Great post!

@Go Animal are there typically ticket drops (at face value) day of or even week of the show?

For Springsteen there were drops at face value. I saw tickets for $1,000's of dollars due to dynamic pricing, but for every show, was able to get face value tickets through drops (MSG Included)

This right here has worked for me trying to score tickets online for years now.

 And if you find yourself striking out with this method, go old school. Head on over to the box office of the venue the day of the show around lunchtime and wait patiently and see if anything becomes available. Usually by three or four p.m. the stage crew is done erecting the stage and seats almost always become available, and they're some of the best seats in the house on either side of the stage at face value minus all the service fees to boot. Been doing this since high school in the late 80's after learning this trick from a much older and wiser hippie in the parking lot of The Spectrum before a Dead show in 1988.

I have very rarely been shut out of a show that I wanted into using these day-of-show methods. And if I couldn't score tickets, or was broke, there still are ways. Some less legal than others, but they exist lol. Sneaking in, paying a security guard a few bucks to open a door and look the other way (note: I have not used this method post 9/11 and all the security camera's everywhere as a result. But you never know, you may find a guard who decided this was their last day on the job and wants to secure some extra seperation $ lol), smoking pens outside the building with a 38 inch high fence and a guard whose head is buried in their phone lol, fan 2 fan, etc. Use your imagination. You want in bad enough, you'll find a way. I always have.

How do you think I've seen every PJ show in Philly/Camden besides the first show at Dobb's?

I don't get great seats anymore thru Ten Club either. I joined the Ten Club after PJ played The Troc in '92 (yes my number was insanely low) but let it lapse, not once, but twice. With a little help from the ex-wife the first time (cancelled the credit card without my knowledge and deleted all emails from TC warning about impending doom) and an unscheduled vacation the second time (if you know what I mean) lol.

These days I use the TC as a way into the building. Now with the lottery, people travelling, shorter tours, and option to buy multiple shows, there is no guarantee. Even back the day you only got TC tickets to one show of the tour. So if you wanted in, you found a way. Same applies today.

Now all of this only applies if its a local show for you. And I'll admit I'm just lucky that my favorite band seems to love my city and plays here way more than most other cities.

But the one thing I never did was pay scalper. Never, not even once. And that's all this premium crap is. I enjoy great seats as much as the next person, but at the end of the day, I'm just happy that I'm in the building rocking out. Its about the music man. Get your ass in the building but don't spend your savings account trying too.

I hope this helps someone out. Enjoy the shows!

Just wanna say I love you man this was epic. Great read and good tidbits.

Thanks for the love. Glad you enjoyed it. 

Go Animal

Updated my ticket price tracking thread over in the Given to Fly section. Lots of dry data, but everything's unfolding like it did in 2022. Noblesville is the new Camden, lol. Feel free to take a gander:

On The Road Again

Go Animal

Still relevant. 

StephanieL19

I love this post. I just looked a ticketmaster or Fort Worth, N1, and only premium up right now. I told myself, don't do it. Keeping fingers crossed for some good juju with F2F. 

Go Animal

StephanieL19 said:

I love this post. I just looked a ticketmaster or Fort Worth, N1, and only premium up right now. I told myself, don't do it. Keeping fingers crossed for some good juju with F2F. 

This is the way.

SSS81

This needs to be bumped.

Go Animal

SSS81 said:

This needs to be bumped.

Hopefully, a lot of us aren't! But, have already seen some Premium seats pop up for resale at theor marked up price on F2F (when it's not turned off😒)

Patience is key.

rvaclaw

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

JojoRice

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

The Verified Fan sale through TM was not the 10c sale. 

static111

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Go Animal

Verified Fan did end up being kind of a joke though. Be it through 10c, or the general populous. I think that's where the majority of frustration comes from.

Almost daily now, we're getting magical rows of tickets that should've been available on day one, and some that should've gone to 10 clubbers, not Premium.

An argument ad nausem, but still a valid one to make.

JeBurkhardt

 The premium seats in Indy that popped up were around $325 and sold pretty quickly. There is now a comparable set on the other side of center that are $445. Too many people jumped at the $325 price so now we won’t be seeing prices that low again until close to the show when they start dropping them. 

nicknyr15

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

static111

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

Great minds!

pjhawks

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison.  10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats.  Would you prefer less 10C seats? 

JimmyV

pjhawks said:

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison.  10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats.  Would you prefer less 10C seats? 

I struggle with this. The easy answer is of course no...but the Chicago situation really shook that up. Is getting the most tickets possible preferable when it means half the club will be sitting up in the rafters? I don't know. It worked for ballparks because so few of the seats were close anyway. But in an arena, to be way up in the 300's after paying member dues for years - and after always getting better seats than that before - it feels off. I don't know what the answer is. Like I say, I'm struggling with that question. 

nicknyr15

pjhawks said:

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison.  10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats.  Would you prefer less 10C seats? 

Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.

But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?

pjhawks

nicknyr15 said:

pjhawks said:

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison.  10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats.  Would you prefer less 10C seats? 

Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.

But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?

did you not read their original email?  having 10% platinum helps offset the costs of having more fan club tickets. do you think giving Ticketmaster more tickets is going to keep prices lower?  the more tickets the 10C gets the lesser you are going to pay...period.  If 10C had limited amount of seats than almost all the tickets would be way more than $165 a ticket that the 10C is offering to us.  No way with the demand of PJ shows would ticketmaster have tickets as low as $165.  so the trade off of 10% platinum with more 10C tickets is a win for the fans in the 10 Club.  It's not even an argument to me.  it's the best solution for everyone to win in this situation if you really think about it.

Zod

pjhawks said:

nicknyr15 said:

pjhawks said:

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

rvaclaw said:

I'm kinda pissed about this.  I saw them in OKC in November '22.  I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C.  When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST.  I was number 700 in the queue.  Most of hte best seats were already gone.  There's no way, right?  Not if we get first dibs as 10C members.  And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800.  So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range.  My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM!  Ticketmaster wins again.  

I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.

https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100?s=20

Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice. 

But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison.  10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats.  Would you prefer less 10C seats? 

Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.

But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?

did you not read their original email?  having 10% platinum helps offset the costs of having more fan club tickets. do you think giving Ticketmaster more tickets is going to keep prices lower?  the more tickets the 10C gets the lesser you are going to pay...period.  If 10C had limited amount of seats than almost all the tickets would be way more than $165 a ticket that the 10C is offering to us.  No way with the demand of PJ shows would ticketmaster have tickets as low as $165.  so the trade off of 10% platinum with more 10C tickets is a win for the fans in the 10 Club.  It's not even an argument to me.  it's the best solution for everyone to win in this situation if you really think about it.

As a fan base, would we be willing to take what they're selling for platinum, and average those costs amongst all the other seats?  IE how much would the other tickets have to go up to offset the extra revenue from platinum.  If it was $20 or something extra per ticket.  I think I'd rather they ditch platinum and just charge a little more for all the other tickets.  Especially with the negative impact it seems to have on 10c seat location.