I don't care about Premium Tickets - if someone's willing to pay a million for a seat let them charge a million. The fundamental problem is TM/10C can lower prices for the premium tickets if demand is low, but Premium ticket holders cannot. Guess who ends up holding the bag?
Ooh, I know! I know!🙋♂️
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
you know the less people buy the premium the more the 10C tickets will be in future tours right? they specifically said the premium tix were used to off set higher tickets for the 10 Club. Not saying I don't agree in principle with the OP but until Ticketbastard is broken up Premium Tix are here to stay.
I would disagree. I think by refusing to buy Premium or Platinum forces the band (and its LLC) to have a more cost efficient option for its regular fans.
The newsletter did indeed state that, but that doesn't mean having Premium/Platinum is the ONLY solution.
That's just the solution they chose.
But not buying Premium, we are telling them that it was the wrong solution.
Good point. There are definitely alternatives. Raise the prices across the board. $200+ tixs vs $165. Tier pricing? Pit Tix are now $400-500. $100 posters? Higher 10c fees? Higher priced verified fans tix? Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Thats for sure.
Or... don't do any of that. These are CHOICES and I'm not being naive, PJ doesn't have outrageous staging, super high-tech sets and lights and videos... They could CHOOSE lower ticket prices and no premium. Unless they make a clear statement that their production costs REQUIRE those prices, (including of course making money to pay everyone), then there is a level of "We will charge this much here, because we can. And people will still buy it." It's getting so expensive and ridiculous, I fully agree that it's important to vote with our dollars... fewer of those dollars, or no dollars if the prices stay premium/dynamic/surge level.
Of course it's a choice. They could choose to make tickets free and fund the shows from their personal fortunes, but why would they? The reality is that they decide how much they want to make on the tour, and set prices accordingly. Selling x number of tickets at a premium price allows them to reduce the price of the remaining tickets and still hit the target. Take away platinum and that money needs to come from somewhere else to reach the goal. It's simple math. If you think it's too expensive, by all means vote with your dollars and don't go. But as long as there are 20,000 people for each show who think it's not too expensive, prices aren't going to drop. Plenty of Springsteen fans thought it was ridiculous and expensive and chose not to attend, yet they still sold out the entire run.
As for the original topic, I completely agree with Animal. Be patient and we'll all get good F2F face value options. But there's a small niche of the fan base that can afford to drop stupid money and would rather just pay for the convenience of having premium tickets in hand. That's OK and it's fine to have an option that caters to that demographic. But the point is that there's no need to panic buy if you're not that person because better options will become available.
I have a single ticket available for night 1 in St Paul, currently its section 111 but I'm awaiting another reassignment as that might change. Do they open us up to sell these in May sometime?
you know the less people buy the premium the more the 10C tickets will be in future tours right? they specifically said the premium tix were used to off set higher tickets for the 10 Club. Not saying I don't agree in principle with the OP but until Ticketbastard is broken up Premium Tix are here to stay.
I would disagree. I think by refusing to buy Premium or Platinum forces the band (and its LLC) to have a more cost efficient option for its regular fans.
The newsletter did indeed state that, but that doesn't mean having Premium/Platinum is the ONLY solution.
That's just the solution they chose.
But not buying Premium, we are telling them that it was the wrong solution.
Good point. There are definitely alternatives. Raise the prices across the board. $200+ tixs vs $165. Tier pricing? Pit Tix are now $400-500. $100 posters? Higher 10c fees? Higher priced verified fans tix? Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Thats for sure.
Or... don't do any of that. These are CHOICES and I'm not being naive, PJ doesn't have outrageous staging, super high-tech sets and lights and videos... They could CHOOSE lower ticket prices and no premium. Unless they make a clear statement that their production costs REQUIRE those prices, (including of course making money to pay everyone), then there is a level of "We will charge this much here, because we can. And people will still buy it." It's getting so expensive and ridiculous, I fully agree that it's important to vote with our dollars... fewer of those dollars, or no dollars if the prices stay premium/dynamic/surge level.
But with choices come effects and consequences. Thats just life. So is your recommendation, and many others think this way, that the band should just eat it and take less? Considering current standard pricing for most shows, it looks like they already do that.
Its really easy to make suggestions about other peoples $, especially when you don't have any idea about how things break down.
Thanks, @SHZA. And another board member made a valid point about anxiety from uncertainty.
There are people out there that like to have their entire trips planned to a T, and don't want to take any chances (or have the time over the summer).
So if somebody just wants to get good tickets (and can afford it) out of the way and book their hotel & their flight and just not think about it till September, that's totally understandable.
Thankfully, I'm flexible & like to roll the dice😉and we've been around long enough on here to know that amazing tickets can appear any day & at any time. The hunt is part of the fun!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I have a single ticket available for night 1 in St Paul, currently its section 111 but I'm awaiting another reassignment as that might change. Do they open us up to sell these in May sometime?
2nd or 3rd week of May is what I heard
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Thanks, @SHZA. And another board member made a valid point about anxiety from uncertainty.
There are people out there that like to have their entire trips planned to a T, and don't want to take any chances (or have the time over the summer).
So if somebody just wants to get good tickets (and can afford it) out of the way and book their hotel & their flight and just not think about it till September, that's totally understandable.
Thankfully, I'm flexible & like to roll the dice😉and we've been around long enough on here to know that amazing tickets can appear any day & at any time. The hunt is part of the fun!
The other thing to keep in mind, is that, every once in a while, tickets get hot at the end. Like, the Leads game the other night, the closer it got to puck drop the more expensive the remaining tickets were. That’s definitely the exception, not the rule, but I think what happens is someone sees a price they can live with, and they avoid the risk of waiting and then the only prices are ones they can’t live with. 100% agree this is the dynamic that platinum exploits. And 9 times out of 10 if you can hold off you will prevail in the end. But once in a while the strategy could backfire. If you go to lots of shows it’s just collateral damage if you miss one. But if someone is only going to one or two I can see them making the purchase.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
@Go Animal are there typically ticket drops (at face value) day of or even week of the show?
For Springsteen there were drops at face value. I saw tickets for $1,000's of dollars due to dynamic pricing, but for every show, was able to get face value tickets through drops (MSG Included)
This right here has worked for me trying to score tickets online for years now.
And if you find yourself striking out with this method, go old school. Head on over to the box office of the venue the day of the show around lunchtime and wait patiently and see if anything becomes available. Usually by three or four p.m. the stage crew is done erecting the stage and seats almost always become available, and they're some of the best seats in the house on either side of the stage at face value minus all the service fees to boot. Been doing this since high school in the late 80's after learning this trick from a much older and wiser hippie in the parking lot of The Spectrum before a Dead show in 1988.
I have very rarely been shut out of a show that I wanted into using these day-of-show methods. And if I couldn't score tickets, or was broke, there still are ways. Some less legal than others, but they exist lol. Sneaking in, paying a security guard a few bucks to open a door and look the other way (note: I have not used this method post 9/11 and all the security camera's everywhere as a result. But you never know, you may find a guard who decided this was their last day on the job and wants to secure some extra seperation $ lol), smoking pens outside the building with a 38 inch high fence and a guard whose head is buried in their phone lol, fan 2 fan, etc. Use your imagination. You want in bad enough, you'll find a way. I always have.
How do you think I've seen every PJ show in Philly/Camden besides the first show at Dobb's?
I don't get great seats anymore thru Ten Club either. I joined the Ten Club after PJ played The Troc in '92 (yes my number was insanely low) but let it lapse, not once, but twice. With a little help from the ex-wife the first time (cancelled the credit card without my knowledge and deleted all emails from TC warning about impending doom) and an unscheduled vacation the second time (if you know what I mean) lol.
These days I use the TC as a way into the building. Now with the lottery, people travelling, shorter tours, and option to buy multiple shows, there is no guarantee. Even back the day you only got TC tickets to one show of the tour. So if you wanted in, you found a way. Same applies today.
Now all of this only applies if its a local show for you. And I'll admit I'm just lucky that my favorite band seems to love my city and plays here way more than most other cities.
But the one thing I never did was pay scalper. Never, not even once. And that's all this premium crap is. I enjoy great seats as much as the next person, but at the end of the day, I'm just happy that I'm in the building rocking out. Its about the music man. Get your ass in the building but don't spend your savings account trying too.
I hope this helps someone out. Enjoy the shows!
Just wanna say I love you man this was epic. Great read and good tidbits.
Thanks for the love. Glad you enjoyed it.
'92Philly 04.10 '94 Boston 04.10 '95 DC 01.15 '96Columbia 09.24, NYC 09.29, Hartford 10.02 '98 DC 06.14, Camden 08.28, Camden 08.29, E. Rutherford 09.08, NYC 09.10, NYC 09.11, Hartford 09.13, Columbia 09.18 '00Camden 09.01, Camden 09.02, Columbia 09.04 '03Philly 04.23, Camden 07.05, Camden 07.06, NYC 07.09, Hershey 07.12, Holmdel 07.14 '04 Reading 10.01, DC 10.11 '05Atlantic City 09.30, Atlantic City 10.01, Philly 10.03, Chicago 10.05 '06NYC 05.05, Camden 05.27, Camden 05.28, DC 05.30, E. Rutherford 06.03 '08Camden 06.19, Camden 06.20, DC 06.22, NYC 06.24, NYC 06.25 '09Philly 10.27, Philly 10.28, Philly 10.30, Philly 10.31 '10Hartford 05.15, Newark 05.18, NYC 05.20, NYC 05.21 '12Philly 09.02 '13 Philly 10.21, Philly 10.22 '16Philly 04.28, Philly 04.29 '18Boston 09.02 '21 Asbury Park 09.18 '22 Camden 09.14 '24 Philly 09.07 Philly 09.09 Baltimore 09.12
Updated my ticket price tracking thread over in the Given to Fly section. Lots of dry data, but everything's unfolding like it did in 2022. Noblesville is the new Camden, lol. Feel free to take a gander:
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I love this post. I just looked a ticketmaster or Fort Worth, N1, and only premium up right now. I told myself, don't do it. Keeping fingers crossed for some good juju with F2F.
---- November 5, 1993 - Indio, CA, Polo Fileds July 4, 1998 - Los Angeles, The Forum November 24, 2013 - Los Angeles, Sports Arena September 26, 2021 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival October 2, 2021 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival May 3, 2022 - San Diego, Aztex Bowl May 6 & 7, 2022- Los Angeles, The Forum May 16, 2022 - Fresno, Save Mart Center September 13 & 15, 2023 - FT. Worth, Dickies September 18 & 19, 2023 - Austin, Moody Center May 10, 2024 - Portland, Moda Center May 16, 2024 - Las Vegas, MGM Garden Arena May 21 & 22, 2024 - Los Angeles, Forum May 25, 2024 - Napa Valley, Bottlerock May 30, 2024 - Seattle, Climate Pledge Arena Jun 22, 2024 - Dublin, Ireland, Marlay Park September 27 & 29, 2024 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival May 6 & 8, 2025 - Nashville, Bridgestone Arena
I love this post. I just looked a ticketmaster or Fort Worth, N1, and only premium up right now. I told myself, don't do it. Keeping fingers crossed for some good juju with F2F.
This is the way.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Hopefully, a lot of us aren't! But, have already seen some Premium seats pop up for resale at theor marked up price on F2F (when it's not turned off😒)
Patience is key.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
The Verified Fan sale through TM was not the 10c sale.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Verified Fan did end up being kind of a joke though. Be it through 10c, or the general populous. I think that's where the majority of frustration comes from.
Almost daily now, we're getting magical rows of tickets that should've been available on day one, and some that should've gone to 10 clubbers, not Premium.
An argument ad nausem, but still a valid one to make.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
The premium seats in Indy that popped up were around $325 and sold pretty quickly. There is now a comparable set on the other side of center that are $445. Too many people jumped at the $325 price so now we won’t be seeing prices that low again until close to the show when they start dropping them.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice.
But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison. 10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats. Would you prefer less 10C seats?
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice.
But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison. 10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats. Would you prefer less 10C seats?
I struggle with this. The easy answer is of course no...but the Chicago situation really shook that up. Is getting the most tickets possible preferable when it means half the club will be sitting up in the rafters? I don't know. It worked for ballparks because so few of the seats were close anyway. But in an arena, to be way up in the 300's after paying member dues for years - and after always getting better seats than that before - it feels off. I don't know what the answer is. Like I say, I'm struggling with that question.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice.
But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison. 10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats. Would you prefer less 10C seats?
Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.
But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice.
But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison. 10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats. Would you prefer less 10C seats?
Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.
But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?
did you not read their original email? having 10% platinum helps offset the costs of having more fan club tickets. do you think giving Ticketmaster more tickets is going to keep prices lower? the more tickets the 10C gets the lesser you are going to pay...period. If 10C had limited amount of seats than almost all the tickets would be way more than $165 a ticket that the 10C is offering to us. No way with the demand of PJ shows would ticketmaster have tickets as low as $165. so the trade off of 10% platinum with more 10C tickets is a win for the fans in the 10 Club. It's not even an argument to me. it's the best solution for everyone to win in this situation if you really think about it.
I'm kinda pissed about this. I saw them in OKC in November '22. I bought tickets on the floor for $125/each through the 10C. When I got on to buy for this tour I got on right at 10am CST. I was number 700 in the queue. Most of hte best seats were already gone. There's no way, right? Not if we get first dibs as 10C members. And then those same tickets on the floor were for $800. So I looked closer on the side, and they were in the $600 range. My first depressed thought was THIS IS NOT PEARL JAM! Ticketmaster wins again.
I always like to trot out this gem whenever I get down about the ticket prices.
Yes! Same here. I have his tweets saved for anyone who wants to solely blame everything on TM and act like artists have no choice.
But how many tickets did The Cure secure for their fan club? it's not a one to one comparison. 10C got way more tickets for the fan club and the trade off was 10% platinum seats. Would you prefer less 10C seats?
Meh. Look at the cure tour. I’ll take that tour any day of the week.
But what’s the trade off? I thought it was to keep tickets low? How does having plat tickets help them secure more fan club tickets?
did you not read their original email? having 10% platinum helps offset the costs of having more fan club tickets. do you think giving Ticketmaster more tickets is going to keep prices lower? the more tickets the 10C gets the lesser you are going to pay...period. If 10C had limited amount of seats than almost all the tickets would be way more than $165 a ticket that the 10C is offering to us. No way with the demand of PJ shows would ticketmaster have tickets as low as $165. so the trade off of 10% platinum with more 10C tickets is a win for the fans in the 10 Club. It's not even an argument to me. it's the best solution for everyone to win in this situation if you really think about it.
As a fan base, would we be willing to take what they're selling for platinum, and average those costs amongst all the other seats? IE how much would the other tickets have to go up to offset the extra revenue from platinum. If it was $20 or something extra per ticket. I think I'd rather they ditch platinum and just charge a little more for all the other tickets. Especially with the negative impact it seems to have on 10c seat location.
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Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
As for the original topic, I completely agree with Animal. Be patient and we'll all get good F2F face value options. But there's a small niche of the fan base that can afford to drop stupid money and would rather just pay for the convenience of having premium tickets in hand. That's OK and it's fine to have an option that caters to that demographic. But the point is that there's no need to panic buy if you're not that person because better options will become available.
Its really easy to make suggestions about other peoples $, especially when you don't have any idea about how things break down.
There are people out there that like to have their entire trips planned to a T, and don't want to take any chances (or have the time over the summer).
So if somebody just wants to get good tickets (and can afford it) out of the way and book their hotel & their flight and just not think about it till September, that's totally understandable.
Thankfully, I'm flexible & like to roll the dice😉and we've been around long enough on here to know that amazing tickets can appear any day & at any time. The hunt is part of the fun!
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
'94 Boston 04.10
'95 DC 01.15
'96 Columbia 09.24, NYC 09.29, Hartford 10.02
'98 DC 06.14, Camden 08.28, Camden 08.29, E. Rutherford 09.08, NYC 09.10, NYC 09.11, Hartford 09.13, Columbia 09.18
'00 Camden 09.01, Camden 09.02, Columbia 09.04
'03 Philly 04.23, Camden 07.05, Camden 07.06, NYC 07.09, Hershey 07.12, Holmdel 07.14
'04 Reading 10.01, DC 10.11
'05 Atlantic City 09.30, Atlantic City 10.01, Philly 10.03, Chicago 10.05
'06 NYC 05.05, Camden 05.27, Camden 05.28, DC 05.30, E. Rutherford 06.03
'08 Camden 06.19, Camden 06.20, DC 06.22, NYC 06.24, NYC 06.25
'09 Philly 10.27, Philly 10.28, Philly 10.30, Philly 10.31
'10 Hartford 05.15, Newark 05.18, NYC 05.20, NYC 05.21
'12 Philly 09.02
'13 Philly 10.21, Philly 10.22
'16 Philly 04.28, Philly 04.29
'18 Boston 09.02
'21 Asbury Park 09.18
'22 Camden 09.14
'24 Philly 09.07 Philly 09.09 Baltimore 09.12
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
November 5, 1993 - Indio, CA, Polo Fileds
July 4, 1998 - Los Angeles, The Forum
November 24, 2013 - Los Angeles, Sports Arena
September 26, 2021 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival
October 2, 2021 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival
May 3, 2022 - San Diego, Aztex Bowl
May 6 & 7, 2022- Los Angeles, The Forum
May 16, 2022 - Fresno, Save Mart Center
September 13 & 15, 2023 - FT. Worth, Dickies
September 18 & 19, 2023 - Austin, Moody Center
May 10, 2024 - Portland, Moda Center
May 16, 2024 - Las Vegas, MGM Garden Arena
May 21 & 22, 2024 - Los Angeles, Forum
May 25, 2024 - Napa Valley, Bottlerock
May 30, 2024 - Seattle, Climate Pledge Arena
Jun 22, 2024 - Dublin, Ireland, Marlay Park
September 27 & 29, 2024 - Dana Point, Ohana Festival
May 6 & 8, 2025 - Nashville, Bridgestone Arena
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Patience is key.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Almost daily now, we're getting magical rows of tickets that should've been available on day one, and some that should've gone to 10 clubbers, not Premium.
An argument ad nausem, but still a valid one to make.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
As a fan base, would we be willing to take what they're selling for platinum, and average those costs amongst all the other seats? IE how much would the other tickets have to go up to offset the extra revenue from platinum. If it was $20 or something extra per ticket. I think I'd rather they ditch platinum and just charge a little more for all the other tickets. Especially with the negative impact it seems to have on 10c seat location.