I dont think lies are being told . With each day comes more actual factual information and im keen to learn from what is happening
Iit has been proven that we were lied to..
I would like to see the proof. I'm not doubting you, but every time someone tries to share something like this with me, upon follow up it usually ends up being some info taken out of context.
Don't tell me you still believe the ''bαt'' theory??
let's take a step back here a moment. you have no problems believing aliens exist and have visited us, but you have a problem with a perfectly plausible explanation based on scientific facts of it happening several times in the past? zoonotic diseases, anyone?
was it a lab leak? maybe was it the wet market? also maybe.
the signs now point to the first being the more likely scenario. But initially there was no reason to believe it was. especially since China isn't exactly transparent with any information towards the outside world.
and the people going so far as to believe that fauci had a hand in this, and it was intentional. um. haha.
and what should I base my decision on? my own "research"? none of these scenarios is currently provable, unless you have some definitive proof I haven't seen.
not sure what is hard to understand about my position. wait to see the evidence. not youtube.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
I dont think lies are being told . With each day comes more actual factual information and im keen to learn from what is happening
Iit has been proven that we were lied to..
I would like to see the proof. I'm not doubting you, but every time someone tries to share something like this with me, upon follow up it usually ends up being some info taken out of context.
Don't tell me you still believe the ''bαt'' theory??
let's take a step back here a moment. you have no problems believing aliens exist and have visited us, but you have a problem with a perfectly plausible explanation based on scientific facts of it happening several times in the past? zoonotic diseases, anyone?
was it a lab leak? maybe was it the wet market? also maybe.
the signs now point to the first being the more likely scenario. But initially there was no reason to believe it was. especially since China isn't exactly transparent with any information towards the outside world.
and the people going so far as to believe that fauci had a hand in this, and it was intentional. um. haha.
and what should I base my decision on? my own "research"? none of these scenarios is currently provable, unless you have some definitive proof I haven't seen.
not sure what is hard to understand about my position. wait to see the evidence. not youtube.
so, you don't have your own opinion??
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I dont think lies are being told . With each day comes more actual factual information and im keen to learn from what is happening
Iit has been proven that we were lied to..
I would like to see the proof. I'm not doubting you, but every time someone tries to share something like this with me, upon follow up it usually ends up being some info taken out of context.
Don't tell me you still believe the ''bαt'' theory??
I think it is as valid a theory as lab leak until we have actual proof.
I dont think lies are being told . With each day comes more actual factual information and im keen to learn from what is happening
Iit has been proven that we were lied to..
I would like to see the proof. I'm not doubting you, but every time someone tries to share something like this with me, upon follow up it usually ends up being some info taken out of context.
Don't tell me you still believe the ''bαt'' theory??
I think it is as valid a theory as lab leak until we have actual proof.
Finally a non sarcastic, non ironic answer..thanks you..
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I dont think lies are being told . With each day comes more actual factual information and im keen to learn from what is happening
Iit has been proven that we were lied to..
I would like to see the proof. I'm not doubting you, but every time someone tries to share something like this with me, upon follow up it usually ends up being some info taken out of context.
Don't tell me you still believe the ''bαt'' theory??
let's take a step back here a moment. you have no problems believing aliens exist and have visited us, but you have a problem with a perfectly plausible explanation based on scientific facts of it happening several times in the past? zoonotic diseases, anyone?
was it a lab leak? maybe was it the wet market? also maybe.
the signs now point to the first being the more likely scenario. But initially there was no reason to believe it was. especially since China isn't exactly transparent with any information towards the outside world.
and the people going so far as to believe that fauci had a hand in this, and it was intentional. um. haha.
and what should I base my decision on? my own "research"? none of these scenarios is currently provable, unless you have some definitive proof I haven't seen.
not sure what is hard to understand about my position. wait to see the evidence. not youtube.
so, you don't have your own opinion??
I already told you my opinion. my opinion is that it could be either zoonotic or a lab leak.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust.. but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
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well of course they are massively different. a lab leak would be a colossal failure and would be a very, very unfortunate cause of millions dying and changing the course of history. that we can agree on, for sure.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust.. but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
two things. the WSJ article is an opinion piece. Second, it's behind a paywall, so I can't read it past the first paragraph.
the second study isn't peer viewed. it also states very broadly that more people who received the vaccine have been infected more often. they don't know why. this could have a very wide range of causes. first of which is probably that vaccinated individuals feel more confident about "going back to normal" and getting infected multiple times. But there would be any number of causes.
come to think of it, I suppose my "irony" statement actually isn't ironic at all. It actually makes sense that those believe in a large scale government coverup of alien visitation would align with being skeptical of the pandemic. and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I don't decry anyone who believes in government conspiracies. Could very well be true. But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth. when you think about it, it's a staggering claim.
sure, there's going to be ranges of opinions on interpreting the data, as this pandemic is still only 3 years old. they'll be studying how this was handled and how the virus mutated and behaved for decades to come. We're still learning more about the 1918 pandemic. Science is exactly that: the process of learning new things and disproving previously held beliefs as new data emerges.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust.. but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
two things. the WSJ article is an opinion piece. Second, it's behind a paywall, so I can't read it past the first paragraph.
the second study isn't peer viewed. it also states very broadly that more people who received the vaccine have been infected more often. they don't know why. this could have a very wide range of causes. first of which is probably that vaccinated individuals feel more confident about "going back to normal" and getting infected multiple times. But there would be any number of causes.
come to think of it, I suppose my "irony" statement actually isn't ironic at all. It actually makes sense that those believe in a large scale government coverup of alien visitation would align with being skeptical of the pandemic. and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I don't decry anyone who believes in government conspiracies. Could very well be true. But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth. when you think about it, it's a staggering claim.
sure, there's going to be ranges of opinions on interpreting the data, as this pandemic is still only 3 years old. they'll be studying how this was handled and how the virus mutated and behaved for decades to come. We're still learning more about the 1918 pandemic. Science is exactly that: the process of learning new things and disproving previously held beliefs as new data emerges.
Come on Hugh, obviously it's a big scam and the leaders of every nation in the world are in on it.
and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust.. but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
two things. the WSJ article is an opinion piece. Second, it's behind a paywall, so I can't read it past the first paragraph.
the second study isn't peer viewed. it also states very broadly that more people who received the vaccine have been infected more often. they don't know why. this could have a very wide range of causes. first of which is probably that vaccinated individuals feel more confident about "going back to normal" and getting infected multiple times. But there would be any number of causes.
come to think of it, I suppose my "irony" statement actually isn't ironic at all. It actually makes sense that those believe in a large scale government coverup of alien visitation would align with being skeptical of the pandemic. and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I don't decry anyone who believes in government conspiracies. Could very well be true. But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth. when you think about it, it's a staggering claim.
sure, there's going to be ranges of opinions on interpreting the data, as this pandemic is still only 3 years old. they'll be studying how this was handled and how the virus mutated and behaved for decades to come. We're still learning more about the 1918 pandemic. Science is exactly that: the process of learning new things and disproving previously held beliefs as new data emerges.
First..about the variants and the boosters, it's out there, months now..i think i have post other articles in the past, wouldn't do it again, you all are free to check this..
second..''But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth''..100% with you..how many times did you see this happens over the last 3 years..how many people lose their job cause they think or believe otherwise??how many people do you mock cause they didn't wear the mask or didn't get the vaccine..how many scientists they were formed into the margins for this reason..why Fauci is authentic and not this guy.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier#:~:text=Luc Montagnier (US: /ˌ,of the human immunodeficiency virus (
third..so, they just point the finger to us but still 3 years later they don't know exactly.. and still giving orders..nice..
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and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust.. but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
two things. the WSJ article is an opinion piece. Second, it's behind a paywall, so I can't read it past the first paragraph.
the second study isn't peer viewed. it also states very broadly that more people who received the vaccine have been infected more often. they don't know why. this could have a very wide range of causes. first of which is probably that vaccinated individuals feel more confident about "going back to normal" and getting infected multiple times. But there would be any number of causes.
come to think of it, I suppose my "irony" statement actually isn't ironic at all. It actually makes sense that those believe in a large scale government coverup of alien visitation would align with being skeptical of the pandemic. and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I don't decry anyone who believes in government conspiracies. Could very well be true. But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth. when you think about it, it's a staggering claim.
sure, there's going to be ranges of opinions on interpreting the data, as this pandemic is still only 3 years old. they'll be studying how this was handled and how the virus mutated and behaved for decades to come. We're still learning more about the 1918 pandemic. Science is exactly that: the process of learning new things and disproving previously held beliefs as new data emerges.
First..about the variants and the boosters, it's out there, months now..i think i have post other articles in the past, wouldn't do it again, you all are free to check this..
second..''But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth''..100% with you..how many times did you see this happens over the last 3 years..how many people lose their job cause they think or believe otherwise??how many people do you mock cause they didn't wear the mask or didn't get the vaccine..how many scientists they were formed into the margins for this reason..why Fauci is authentic and not this guy.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier#:~:text=Luc Montagnier (US: /ˌ,of the human immunodeficiency virus (
third..so, they just point the finger to us but still 3 years later they don't know exactly.. and still giving orders..nice..
there will always be outliers. but I am going to tend to believe the 99% over the 1%. no scientist is a god. they are fallible humans like the rest of us. some are going to be good at their jobs and others won't be. do you think it's plausible that the 99% are bad at their jobs and the 1% are good? or the other way around?
I'm going with the 99%, 100% of the time. that's just makes sense to me.
there are always going to be a number of unanswered questions regarding this, until we're long removed from it and it's studied ad nauseum. like how in the beginning they fucked up the mask thing. They said they didn't work. Then they said they did. Now they are saying some don't and some do. I'm inclined to believe the latter. I think in the beginning they said they weren't needed since they thought the virus spread in the same way as other cold and flu viruses. When they got evidence that it was more evasive, and stayed in the air longer and had a farther reach, they switched course. Again, that's how science works. You change your position based on the known information at the time.
it's not easy navigating a new disease in real time. hindsight is always goin to be 20/20. there are going to be things they get wrong. there are going to be things they get right.
again, the only people claiming fauci is some type of worshipped deity by the left, are people from the right. he is a trusted virologist based on his decades of service and education and experience dealing with epidemiology.
and the other guy, based just on the link you provided, sounds pretty problematic and controversial in the scientific community.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
and I don't mock anyone who doesn't get the vaccine or doesn't mask. I am not currently masking unless it's required at whatever business I'm about to enter. or if I'm sick. in which case I don't leave the house anyway.
but there's the opposite side, I see way more people on the right, and people like joe rogan, openly shaming people to their millions of viewers/followers for simply wearing a mask when they think it's not necessary. it goes both ways.
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Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
Here's a study from Washington State Department of Health that found:
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the
primary series.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 1.9 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the
primary series.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 2.3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the
primary series
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
I've noticed that. people cling to the "prevents infection" claim from two years ago when they thought it did/would. They figured out it doesn't (or at least not to the degree it was hoped) but at least it prevents severe outcomes, and those that knew were honest about it. That is undeniable. But when the science changes, people say the previous science was a lie. it's so weird. that's literally how science has always worked.
the science has evolved at a record pace here, and people want to call it a conspiracy. when the fuck did humanity ever have a preventative measure that mitigates severe disease and death within months of the new disease being discovered, this quickly? literally never.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
But it does fit the vaccine requirement narrative.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
I've noticed that. people cling to the "prevents infection" claim from two years ago when they thought it did/would. They figured out it doesn't (or at least not to the degree it was hoped) but at least it prevents severe outcomes, and those that knew were honest about it. That is undeniable. But when the science changes, people say the previous science was a lie. it's so weird. that's literally how science has always worked.
the science has evolved at a record pace here, and people want to call it a conspiracy. when the fuck did humanity ever have a preventative measure that mitigates severe disease and death within months of the new disease being discovered, this quickly? literally never.
Tell that to the people that were still being fired 10 months ago.
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
There you go. Initial data was way off then.
yeah, again, that's how science works. and it wasn't "way off". as far as I understand it, they couldn't know about infection/transmission affectation until they had real world data. and they didn't have real world data until they had high rollout and uptake. it was disappointing that it didn't have as much of an impact on those factors as they had hoped, but at least it is keeping millions more alive.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Just want to thank everyone posting in here for my almost daily dose of laughs. And they come from either side. Carry on
I'm with you here. What happened to all those forum health "experts" that were demonizing antivaxxers 1 year or so ago on this thread? Truly miss their insults, arguments and data reports links.
you don't like data?
I like data. Please repost on how covid vaccine prevents infection and transmission.
it doesn't prevent infection. it prevents severe outcomes. which we've known for a very long time.
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
But it does fit the vaccine requirement narrative.
public health is not a "narrative".
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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not sure what is hard to understand about my position. wait to see the evidence. not youtube.
-EV 8/14/93
Well then, that settles it.
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-vaccines-fueling-new-covid-variants-xbb-northeast-antibodies-mutation-strain-immune-imprinting-11672483618
https://sanduskyregister.com/news/436005/covid-vaccine-study-raises-questions-about-boosters/
and i have post several other links..serious things, scientists, as you want us to trust..
but everyone have a different opinion about science..respectful..but please don't try to convince me otherwise by irony or sarcasm..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
-EV 8/14/93
the second study isn't peer viewed. it also states very broadly that more people who received the vaccine have been infected more often. they don't know why. this could have a very wide range of causes. first of which is probably that vaccinated individuals feel more confident about "going back to normal" and getting infected multiple times. But there would be any number of causes.
come to think of it, I suppose my "irony" statement actually isn't ironic at all. It actually makes sense that those believe in a large scale government coverup of alien visitation would align with being skeptical of the pandemic. and I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I don't decry anyone who believes in government conspiracies. Could very well be true. But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth. when you think about it, it's a staggering claim.
sure, there's going to be ranges of opinions on interpreting the data, as this pandemic is still only 3 years old. they'll be studying how this was handled and how the virus mutated and behaved for decades to come. We're still learning more about the 1918 pandemic. Science is exactly that: the process of learning new things and disproving previously held beliefs as new data emerges.
-EV 8/14/93
Come on Hugh, obviously it's a big scam and the leaders of every nation in the world are in on it.
second..''But I don't understand the sudden skepticism of nearly every scientist on earth''..100% with you..how many times
did you see this happens over the last 3 years..how many people lose their job cause they think or believe otherwise??how many people do you mock cause they didn't wear the mask or didn't get the vaccine..how many scientists they were formed into the margins for this reason..why Fauci is authentic and not this guy.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier#:~:text=Luc Montagnier (US: /ˌ,of the human immunodeficiency virus (
third..so, they just point the finger to us but still 3 years later they don't know exactly..
and still giving orders..nice..
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I'm going with the 99%, 100% of the time. that's just makes sense to me.
there are always going to be a number of unanswered questions regarding this, until we're long removed from it and it's studied ad nauseum. like how in the beginning they fucked up the mask thing. They said they didn't work. Then they said they did. Now they are saying some don't and some do. I'm inclined to believe the latter. I think in the beginning they said they weren't needed since they thought the virus spread in the same way as other cold and flu viruses. When they got evidence that it was more evasive, and stayed in the air longer and had a farther reach, they switched course. Again, that's how science works. You change your position based on the known information at the time.
it's not easy navigating a new disease in real time. hindsight is always goin to be 20/20. there are going to be things they get wrong. there are going to be things they get right.
again, the only people claiming fauci is some type of worshipped deity by the left, are people from the right. he is a trusted virologist based on his decades of service and education and experience dealing with epidemiology.
and the other guy, based just on the link you provided, sounds pretty problematic and controversial in the scientific community.
-EV 8/14/93
but there's the opposite side, I see way more people on the right, and people like joe rogan, openly shaming people to their millions of viewers/followers for simply wearing a mask when they think it's not necessary. it goes both ways.
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
Here's a study from Washington State Department of Health that found:
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are • 2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are • 1.9 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are • 2.3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
That data about the vaccine reducing hospitalizations and deaths doesn't fit the predetermined narrative that vaccines don't help, so it's ignored.
the science has evolved at a record pace here, and people want to call it a conspiracy. when the fuck did humanity ever have a preventative measure that mitigates severe disease and death within months of the new disease being discovered, this quickly? literally never.
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93