Viruses / Vaccines 2

lastexitlondon

The schools  here are riddled with covid. My daughter's  class has only 12 kids. 3 have a cold including  my girl. 1 possibly  2 covid. So only about  7 kids in today. Our time  is coming fast.  We test daily at 4 years old its a bit harrowing for her  but a must. 

OnWis97

Spiritual_Chaos said:

AW124797 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

AW124797 said:

mickeyrat said:

AW124797 said:

mickeyrat said:

AW124797 said:

cblock4life said:

AW124797 said:

cblock4life said:

If Jesus Christ came down from the sky and told everyone to get vaccinated there would still be those who would not listen.  After all the vaccines given and all the people who survived them, how they’ve protected almost all from severe illness and death and all those unvaccinated who’ve been sick and died it proves the vaccine is safe. If everyone would have listened from the beginning this would be over by now. For gods sake even trump tells them to get vaccinated.  Bottom line, the unvaccinated are to blame. Period. 

What a load of horse manure.

Quit stalking me….already told you not worth my time.  Can’t fight with men huh? And your profile is private….what a fucking joke 

Sorry you felt that way. I wasn't targeting you, but any post with such imbecilic claim deserves a comment on a public forum. That's all. Be well.

what a load of horse manure

There you go. I was right on par with the mob here. Standard comment.

really. exact repeat of what you said to her.

in case you forgot, open up this quote chain.

Let me rephrase. What I said is right on par with the standard practice here. She made idiotic comment - "unvaccinated are to blame," which is horse shit. Isn't it?

nope. 

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/how-vaccines-reduce-transmission

AW124797 said:

Gern Blansten said:

AW124797 said:

Why would anyone blame the unvaccinated if masked and boosted folks are getting infected and spread the virus? I went to the NY Islanders game last week. Fully vaccinated crowd of 15000 or so. Maybe 5% had a mask on. All these risk takers aren't to blame? Please. What about restaurants? This is illogical scapegoating propaganda. Wear your mask properly, get boosted and don't take risks if that helps you with your anxiety. This is not going away. Scandinavian nations already know better - it's horse shit.

I don't understand why this isn't obvious to you. The unvaxxed clog the hospitals and ERs. That's why

I'm talking about the spread. All these statistics from hospitals are 40-50% accurate according to our NY governor.

read this link

I did. November 2021. Irrelevant pre-omicron data. Didn't hold water with the latest variant.

Do you seriously think that vaccines do not work?

I think the going belief is as follows: Now that the vaccinations are not very effective at stopping the spread of Omicron, this is a disease being spread by the vaccinated because they're all just getting the jab and throwing caution to the wind.

I agree that Omicron has rendered the vaccine less effective vs. spread (though seemingly not versus severity). But anecdotally, anyway, the logic is still flawed because the unvaxxed have been "not living in fear" since day 1 and to this day I'd have to think that caution still is a trait more of the vaxxed than the unvaxxed. So it's not the vaxxed that are "more at fault" as much as it is that the vaxxed are no longer doing the things we were a year ago that were essentially allowing the unvaxxed to not live in fear. 

For the most part, covid is over in terms of our behavior, vaxxed and unvaxxed. And those of us who spent so long delaying our own lives so the deniers could live their lives are not making that sacrifice any more.  (And the few who are are pretty much the vaxxed).

And this says nothing of who's clogging up the hospitals.

PJNB

lastexitlondon said:

The schools  here are riddled with covid. My daughter's  class has only 12 kids. 3 have a cold including  my girl. 1 possibly  2 covid. So only about  7 kids in today. Our time  is coming fast.  We test daily at 4 years old its a bit harrowing for her  but a must. 

Do you guys have easy access to rapid tests? They have dried up here in the last couple of weeks. During December we tested everyday. I guess a lot of others were doing the same and now we can only get them with a week plus wait if we have symptoms. Lot of good that does for our kids. It is coming to our house I am sure of it. It is no longer if but when. Good luck and hope the little one fairs out ok. 

Go Beavers

OnWis97 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

AW124797 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

AW124797 said:

mickeyrat said:

AW124797 said:

mickeyrat said:

AW124797 said:

cblock4life said:

AW124797 said:

cblock4life said:

If Jesus Christ came down from the sky and told everyone to get vaccinated there would still be those who would not listen.  After all the vaccines given and all the people who survived them, how they’ve protected almost all from severe illness and death and all those unvaccinated who’ve been sick and died it proves the vaccine is safe. If everyone would have listened from the beginning this would be over by now. For gods sake even trump tells them to get vaccinated.  Bottom line, the unvaccinated are to blame. Period. 

What a load of horse manure.

Quit stalking me….already told you not worth my time.  Can’t fight with men huh? And your profile is private….what a fucking joke 

Sorry you felt that way. I wasn't targeting you, but any post with such imbecilic claim deserves a comment on a public forum. That's all. Be well.

what a load of horse manure

There you go. I was right on par with the mob here. Standard comment.

really. exact repeat of what you said to her.

in case you forgot, open up this quote chain.

Let me rephrase. What I said is right on par with the standard practice here. She made idiotic comment - "unvaccinated are to blame," which is horse shit. Isn't it?

nope. 

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/how-vaccines-reduce-transmission

AW124797 said:

Gern Blansten said:

AW124797 said:

Why would anyone blame the unvaccinated if masked and boosted folks are getting infected and spread the virus? I went to the NY Islanders game last week. Fully vaccinated crowd of 15000 or so. Maybe 5% had a mask on. All these risk takers aren't to blame? Please. What about restaurants? This is illogical scapegoating propaganda. Wear your mask properly, get boosted and don't take risks if that helps you with your anxiety. This is not going away. Scandinavian nations already know better - it's horse shit.

I don't understand why this isn't obvious to you. The unvaxxed clog the hospitals and ERs. That's why

I'm talking about the spread. All these statistics from hospitals are 40-50% accurate according to our NY governor.

read this link

I did. November 2021. Irrelevant pre-omicron data. Didn't hold water with the latest variant.

Do you seriously think that vaccines do not work?

I think the going belief is as follows: Now that the vaccinations are not very effective at stopping the spread of Omicron, this is a disease being spread by the vaccinated because they're all just getting the jab and throwing caution to the wind.

I agree that Omicron has rendered the vaccine less effective vs. spread (though seemingly not versus severity). But anecdotally, anyway, the logic is still flawed because the unvaxxed have been "not living in fear" since day 1 and to this day I'd have to think that caution still is a trait more of the vaxxed than the unvaxxed. So it's not the vaxxed that are "more at fault" as much as it is that the vaxxed are no longer doing the things we were a year ago that were essentially allowing the unvaxxed to not live in fear. 

For the most part, covid is over in terms of our behavior, vaxxed and unvaxxed. And those of us who spent so long delaying our own lives so the deniers could live there's are not making that sacrifice any more.  (And the few who are are pretty much the vaxxed).

And this says nothing of who's clogging up the hospitals.

As far as cases are concerned, the unvaccinated are still getting it at a rate 3-4 times higher than the vaccinated. 

lastexitlondon

PJNB said:

lastexitlondon said:

The schools  here are riddled with covid. My daughter's  class has only 12 kids. 3 have a cold including  my girl. 1 possibly  2 covid. So only about  7 kids in today. Our time  is coming fast.  We test daily at 4 years old its a bit harrowing for her  but a must. 

Do you guys have easy access to rapid tests? They have dried up here in the last couple of weeks. During December we tested everyday. I guess a lot of others were doing the same and now we can only get them with a week plus wait if we have symptoms. Lot of good that does for our kids. It is coming to our house I am sure of it. It is no longer if but when. Good luck and hope the little one fairs out ok. 

We stock piled about 5 boxes  each has 7 tests. At the moment  we are ok. I think we can order more. But soon it is said  it will be harder  to get them
. Thank you and best of luck. Just hoping she strides on like she does. She has a cold but to me it is same symptoms  of omicron.  But not pos. We feel a bit odd  but nothing  much and all neg. Fuck knows. I hope she doesn't  have a cold and then gets covid on top.  Would be typical  though dodge it 2 years then double whammy

AW124797

Go Beavers said:

AW124797 said:

Gern Blansten said:

AW124797 said:

Why would anyone blame the unvaccinated if masked and boosted folks are getting infected and spread the virus? I went to the NY Islanders game last week. Fully vaccinated crowd of 15000 or so. Maybe 5% had a mask on. All these risk takers aren't to blame? Please. What about restaurants? This is illogical scapegoating propaganda. Wear your mask properly, get boosted and don't take risks if that helps you with your anxiety. This is not going away. Scandinavian nations already know better - it's horse shit.

I don't understand why this isn't obvious to you. The unvaxxed clog the hospitals and ERs. That's why

I'm talking about the spread. All these statistics from hospitals are 40-50% accurate according to our NY governor.

You’re talking about case numbers and spread because you’re clinging to the incorrect belief that the vaccines don’t work. 

Can we go back to the unvaccinated are to blame? I was hoping to hear some logical arguments here. My beliefs are irrelevant to the subject.

mrussel1

AW124797 said:

Go Beavers said:

AW124797 said:

Gern Blansten said:

AW124797 said:

Why would anyone blame the unvaccinated if masked and boosted folks are getting infected and spread the virus? I went to the NY Islanders game last week. Fully vaccinated crowd of 15000 or so. Maybe 5% had a mask on. All these risk takers aren't to blame? Please. What about restaurants? This is illogical scapegoating propaganda. Wear your mask properly, get boosted and don't take risks if that helps you with your anxiety. This is not going away. Scandinavian nations already know better - it's horse shit.

I don't understand why this isn't obvious to you. The unvaxxed clog the hospitals and ERs. That's why

I'm talking about the spread. All these statistics from hospitals are 40-50% accurate according to our NY governor.

You’re talking about case numbers and spread because you’re clinging to the incorrect belief that the vaccines don’t work. 

Can we go back to the unvaccinated are to blame? I was hoping to hear some logical arguments here. My beliefs are irrelevant to the subject.

The unvaxxed absolutely carry the lion's share of the blame for the Delta wave in this country.   Had we achieved herd immunity, then perhaps that variant would have died out quickly.  But at this point, I don't feel bad for any of them.  

Go Beavers

AW124797 said:

Go Beavers said:

AW124797 said:

Gern Blansten said:

AW124797 said:

Why would anyone blame the unvaccinated if masked and boosted folks are getting infected and spread the virus? I went to the NY Islanders game last week. Fully vaccinated crowd of 15000 or so. Maybe 5% had a mask on. All these risk takers aren't to blame? Please. What about restaurants? This is illogical scapegoating propaganda. Wear your mask properly, get boosted and don't take risks if that helps you with your anxiety. This is not going away. Scandinavian nations already know better - it's horse shit.

I don't understand why this isn't obvious to you. The unvaxxed clog the hospitals and ERs. That's why

I'm talking about the spread. All these statistics from hospitals are 40-50% accurate according to our NY governor.

You’re talking about case numbers and spread because you’re clinging to the incorrect belief that the vaccines don’t work. 

Can we go back to the unvaccinated are to blame? I was hoping to hear some logical arguments here. My beliefs are irrelevant to the subject.

You haven’t made much of a case that they aren’t to blame. 

mrussel1

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

congrats! who's the mutha?

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

congrats! who's the mutha?

An unknown mystery person who must have impregnated me while at a friends birthday party at a bar last Sat.  I was definitely at a super spreader event. 

Spunkie

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

congrats! who's the mutha?

Hang in there @mrussel1!

PJNB said:

An email was sent out last night I guess. Kids can talk quietly during lunch time. Very happy to see that this morning. 

Me too! That was some of the biggest BS I've seen served up, thus far! Hugs.

RunIntoTheRain

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I hope you have an easy time of it.

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I heard buying vinyl helps combat the virus.

mrussel1

RunIntoTheRain said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I hope you have an easy time of it.

This is day 3.  On a scale of 1-10, it’s a 2.  Little stuffy and tired but that is it.  Today is better than yesterday so I expect it’s almost over.  Super weird dreams though.

mrussel1

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I heard buying vinyl helps combat the virus.

I’m testing that theory right now.

bbiggs

mrussel1 said:

RunIntoTheRain said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I hope you have an easy time of it.

This is day 3.  On a scale of 1-10, it’s a 2.  Little stuffy and tired but that is it.  Today is better than yesterday so I expect it’s almost over.  Super weird dreams though.

Be well, man.

Spunkie

mrussel1 said:

RunIntoTheRain said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I hope you have an easy time of it.

This is day 3.  On a scale of 1-10, it’s a 2.  Little stuffy and tired but that is it.  Today is better than yesterday so I expect it’s almost over.  Super weird dreams though.

@Spiritual_Chaos ya better get tested 😉

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

RunIntoTheRain said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

I hope you have an easy time of it.

This is day 3.  On a scale of 1-10, it’s a 2.  Little stuffy and tired but that is it.  Today is better than yesterday so I expect it’s almost over.  Super weird dreams though.

For me...it was a roller coaster, which was annoying.  But others I know had a straight path (like you are suggesting).  I hope its true for you.  Take care.

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

I'M GONNA HAVE A BABY!!

congrats! who's the mutha?

An unknown mystery person who must have impregnated me while at a friends birthday party at a bar last Sat.  I was definitely at a super spreader event. 

be well sir.